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    Mark McGwire: “I couldve hit 70 HR without PEDs.”

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...t-70-home-runs

    No way this asshole really believes this right? Unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varys View Post
    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...t-70-home-runs

    No way this asshole really believes this right? Unbelievable.
    hes getting senile

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    Quote Originally Posted by SetofKs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by varys View Post
    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...t-70-home-runs

    No way this asshole really believes this right? Unbelievable.
    hes getting senile
    must've been the PEDs

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    hit 49 as a rook in 1987

    don't think he was on the juice then


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    Johnny Manziel will be the 1st pick in the draft. I truly believe not only will Johnny Manziel be rookie of the year, quite possibly he will be MVP as his style will shock defensive coordinators. Manziel may only be 6 feet tall, but he has size 15 feet. And he has HUGE hands. I know some NFL scouts so I know what I am talking about.



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    yeah sure cheater

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    yeah sure cheater
    only reason anybody calls him a cheater is because the media wanted you to think that way.

    dude did nothing wrong at the time he was doing it.
    Quote Originally Posted by bottomset_69 View Post
    Johnny Manziel will be the 1st pick in the draft. I truly believe not only will Johnny Manziel be rookie of the year, quite possibly he will be MVP as his style will shock defensive coordinators. Manziel may only be 6 feet tall, but he has size 15 feet. And he has HUGE hands. I know some NFL scouts so I know what I am talking about.



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    Steroids help you work out more / recover faster ? Do they help your hand eye coordination ? I think 3 things helped him hit 70 homers more than steroids . Different ball . Weak pitching and smaller parks.

    More pitchers have been busted for steroids than hitters. If steroids help you hit the ball farther why arent pitchers throwing 110mph ? No matter the strength of a hitter there is a maximum bat speed . Unless you increase bat size/weight , which Mcgwire over the years did not ... i believe the resulting homeruns are more talent than steroids.

    Btw . In the book The Year Babe Ruth hit 104 homers , he hit
    50 balls over 450ft that did not leave Yankee stadium . Outs !
    Dimaggio never hit a homerun to the right of the left center
    Field power alley (460 ) at Yankee Stadium . Center was 490 !

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulva View Post
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    yeah sure cheater
    only reason anybody calls him a cheater is because the media wanted you to think that way.

    dude did nothing wrong at the time he was doing it.
    explain mulva?

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    I think to level the playing field in sports whites should be allowed to use as many steroids as they want and black players get none. The NBA needs more redheads than just Blake Griffin.

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    the great black athlete crushes whitey isn't even fair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballhawknet View Post
    Steroids help you work out more / recover faster ? Do they help your hand eye coordination ? I think 3 things helped him hit 70 homers more than steroids . Different ball . Weak pitching and smaller parks.

    More pitchers have been busted for steroids than hitters. If steroids help you hit the ball farther why arent pitchers throwing 110mph ? No matter the strength of a hitter there is a maximum bat speed . Unless you increase bat size/weight , which Mcgwire over the years did not ... i believe the resulting homeruns are more talent than steroids.

    Btw . In the book The Year Babe Ruth hit 104 homers , he hit
    50 balls over 450ft that did not leave Yankee stadium . Outs !
    Dimaggio never hit a homerun to the right of the left center
    Field power alley (460 ) at Yankee Stadium . Center was 490 !
    read the wiki page for the book and def going to have to read it

    what i don't understand is how they have tracked every HR babe ever hit - there is hardly any video of him even playing

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
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    only reason anybody calls him a cheater is because the media wanted you to think that way.

    dude did nothing wrong at the time he was doing it.
    explain mulva?
    Among other factors, juicing was the rule in MLB, not the exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mulva View Post

    only reason anybody calls him a cheater is because the media wanted you to think that way.

    dude did nothing wrong at the time he was doing it.
    explain mulva?
    they're unfairly punished and victims. the media pushed them into corner and the public loved the ride, much like some of the monkey's in here. they had no choice but to deny. and let's get serious, there were many more players doing it as well. you didn't have to use just needles
    Quote Originally Posted by bottomset_69 View Post
    Johnny Manziel will be the 1st pick in the draft. I truly believe not only will Johnny Manziel be rookie of the year, quite possibly he will be MVP as his style will shock defensive coordinators. Manziel may only be 6 feet tall, but he has size 15 feet. And he has HUGE hands. I know some NFL scouts so I know what I am talking about.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WillieMcFML View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ballhawknet View Post
    Steroids help you work out more / recover faster ? Do they help your hand eye coordination ? I think 3 things helped him hit 70 homers more than steroids . Different ball . Weak pitching and smaller parks.

    More pitchers have been busted for steroids than hitters. If steroids help you hit the ball farther why arent pitchers throwing 110mph ? No matter the strength of a hitter there is a maximum bat speed . Unless you increase bat size/weight , which Mcgwire over the years did not ... i believe the resulting homeruns are more talent than steroids.

    Btw . In the book The Year Babe Ruth hit 104 homers , he hit
    50 balls over 450ft that did not leave Yankee stadium . Outs !
    Dimaggio never hit a homerun to the right of the left center
    Field power alley (460 ) at Yankee Stadium . Center was 490 !
    read the wiki page for the book and def going to have to read it

    what i don't understand is how they have tracked every HR babe ever hit - there is hardly any video of him even playing
    Every swing .... be it an out or homer there were countless reporters documenting everything the babe did in detail
    ... as you said no tv .

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    Okay thats fine if you want to say he was treated unfairly given the time this was happening. That doesnt mean the juice wasnt good for at least 8 HR per season for big mac.

    Also i havent paid hardly any attention to baseball since the early 2000s... Where does bonds rank all time using super dupermetrics if we could somehow all agree that these guys gained 0 advantage from PEDs? I would guess he’d be top 3 if not the goat.
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    Maybe. But certainly not without Andro and all those other steroids.

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    didn't need them just liked the flavour

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    Quote Originally Posted by varys View Post
    Okay thats fine if you want to say he was treated unfairly given the time this was happening. That doesnt mean the juice wasnt good for at least 8 HR per season for big mac.

    Also i havent paid hardly any attention to baseball since the early 2000s... Where does bonds rank all time using super dupermetrics if we could somehow all agree that these guys gained 0 advantage from PEDs? I would guess he’d be top 3 if not the goat.
    I was about to say the same thing, but don't think that's the case...

    as I understand it advanced metrics love bombs and Ks and hate walks...so while he gains huge points for the HRs, I think he loses just as many for walking so much...too lazy to look, but in the peak bonds years wasn't he walking like 190 times per year?

    and while we're at it I don't get the love of the K...you whiff you have 0% chance of anything positive happening...I just cant believe that putting the ball in play in certain spots isn't worth more than whiffing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by varys View Post
    Okay thats fine if you want to say he was treated unfairly given the time this was happening. That doesnt mean the juice wasnt good for at least 8 HR per season for big mac.

    Also i havent paid hardly any attention to baseball since the early 2000s... Where does bonds rank all time using super dupermetrics if we could somehow all agree that these guys gained 0 advantage from PEDs? I would guess he’d be top 3 if not the goat.
    by WAR, Bonds is the GOAT hitter
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