"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Really interesting article.
Props to Bannon and Mercer for being open enough to listen and see the potential. Honestly, I view the article as complimentary to them, rather than sinister.
Unrelated to politics. I’ve had discussions with a lot of people about what they give away on Facebook, or what insight there is to be gained.
Like I’ve asked single female friends that date if they don’t understand that if you give me what you like to listen to or read and a couple other interests, I essentially can be what you want every time upon meeting you, and whether they think about that when they meet men. I’ve asked my buddies in sales if they use it on potential clients. If I peruse your likes and tastes, it’s incredibly easy to build rapport with someone. So many things tend to correlate and you can peg someone pretty predictably. Obviously advertising has been onto this for 50 years, but never has there been a tool like Facebook where people just give away their personal preferences to the general public.
I do this in general pretty frequently. My girlfriend the other night just mentioned having drinks with her friend and a husband I’d never met. I look at the dude’s profile, see he’s bow hunter/Nascar/ country music dude and just say fuck no. If he happened to also like good literature or anything that points to an eclectic range, I may say yeah, but his was simply boilerplate rural. I’ve met that dude a million times. Salt of the earth often, but no one I want to hang out with because they’re never going to say anything of interest to me. Honestly, just weeding people out is the most useful thing about Facebook. Saves a lot of time.
That they took this long to aim it in a big picture way at elections is more surprising than that they did. It’s disappointing that he was first there to be had by the left, but they fucked up. Can’t hate the people who saw the value.
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It's all about noticing the subtleties of the current geo political atmosphere.....why do nerds need validation so much???........sometimes it's both....
"Druff would suck his own dick if it were long enough"- Brandon "drexel" Gerson
"ann coulter literally has more common sense than pfa."-Sonatine
"Real grinders supports poker fraud"- Ray Davis
"DRILLED HER GOOD"- HONGKONGER
What dude? I guess they will have to call me on capital hill before it's all said and done
I mean is it really that hard to believe ur an annoying faggot? that's really all it comes down to, libtards are in denial we elected an arrogant ahole cuz they wouldn't stfu
U know what might be a good idea? Keep complaining. Omg so bad
Why can't any of u faggots do what u say ur gonna do??
???? For real who are u? Ur some guy who talks out of his at all times without doing shit and a bunch of talentless faggots green rep u. Have any of u faggots done anything I can't learn to do in a day?
Nod.
The thing that takes this into prosecutorial waters is when they took a few hundred thousand people who said 'yes you can have my data' and then used that to pivot to scraping an average of 160 of their friends data each time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person...le_information
Personally Identifiable Information (PII) is legally protected. How its gathered, transferred, and stored is the subject of stringent and well defined laws. Orgs spend millions of dollars a year on lawyers and infosec teams, because if you trip over your own dick with PII it can sink your battleship real fast.
Basically Wylie/Bannon built a neutron bomb that only destroys democracies and then sold it to a variety of military and intelligence agencies before screaming YOLO and using it themselves, somehow while finding the time to literally give a powerpoint to Team Putin on how to build their own from the ground up.
And if Bannon told Trump Jr to slide some of that PII to the Russians, we can see why Vanessa is doing the criminal defense attorney shuffle.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
I am living this shit IRL. My older brother, who is one of the best people I have ever known has swallowed this shit, hook, line, and sinker. He has gotten to the point where he can't complete a sentence without including "deep state". Although he was raised color blind, he now blames everything on brown people. He just called me to tell me that he and his wife passed their carry permit test, and that they are going to be armed 100% of the time from now on. I love him, but he is very hard to have a conversation with.
Yea, it was only a matter of time until someone built that bomb though. If you don’t start the Manhattan project on that shit first, particularly when the best minds are on your ideological side of the fence, it’s on you. I’ll take your word on the privacy and legal aspects of what they did. I’m not educated enough on those subjects to even approach them. That they broke the law is the least interesting aspect of the story imo. Write a big enough check and that’s always going down. I was just nodding my head reading the article and kind of thinking how someone who is a tech shortbus student like myself can feel all those psychological pieces of the puzzle laying there for anyone competent to put together, and how I’m kind of surprised it took so long for a company to do it as well as they did.
When you see how many people are mining data for business purposes, I’d have to think there are thousands of kids who could do that work. It just took someone passionate and brazen enough to outsource it with deep pockets like Mercer. For as much as I personally dislike Bannon, I don’t see him as an idiot. He has his finger on the pulse of the disenfranchised. Giving him and his ilk a bankroll was so much smarter and efficient than their previous attempts at dropping $100 million on the Newts of the world to coldcall retirement home residents who were already on their team.
Perhaps its a bit more visceral for me because I'm doing a lot of AI R&D lately and when I saw that Wylie was a data science goon my blood literally ran cold, because all AI does is extend contemporary data science * linear algebra into a depth of extrapolation that we could otherwise never imagine (literally).
When Musk et all are saying "AI has the potential to end civilization" we tend to assume he means leveraging the qualities above into unstoppable autonomous Terminators but the actual truth is so much more subtle and infinitely more destructive;
You show a sidedish or a mintjewlips a carbon fiber cheetah with the ability to send 7.5mm rounds into a 1" grouping at 300 meters targeting nothing but heat signatures and they will say 'ohhhhh wow yeah thats bad and shouldnt happen' but when you try to explain to them that the same engine can be used to tear down democracies by reducing huge portions of the population into paranoid schizophrenics who believe one candidate represents a conglomerate of satanist pedophiles who buy and sell children out of the back room of a pizza parlor, they call you a shill and a faggot because they are too stupid to understand and/or they are literally the exact people who have already been mentally ratfucked.
Advertising has always been a questionable form of voodoo but it was also bound by the limitations of our own imaginations. AI/data science tears down those limitations. That Facebook was there to fill in the last piece of the data science puzzle is one of those unhappy coincidences that will take generations to recover from.
One thing that really struck me as odd was how Zuck did a literal 180 after his first post-election briefing in front of congress. This article explains exactly why.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
I'm not on any social media and I encourage everybody to delete all social media accounts
HILLARY WON
Sonasstine you should assign a gender to the top 63 users here. All have to be unique.
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Chaps' 2017-18 NFL $$ Thread
UK cops just raided CA.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Also not sure this was clear Joseph Chancellor left CA and now works at Facebook because of course he does.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
BUMP
First off, the Zuckerberg testimony today was brutal. Every politician questioning him just wanted to grandstand and hear themselves talk.
I couldn't get through more than a little bit of it.
Second, you can see if Cambridge Analytica got access to your data:
https://www.facebook.com/help/1873665312923476
Note that this URL is not being widely shared by Facebook, and like most other privacy related matters on Facebook, you need to know where to find it.
Here's what it says for me:
Based on our investigation, you don't appear to have logged into "This Is Your Digital Life" with Facebook before we removed it from our platform in 2015.
However, a friend of yours did log in.
As a result, the following information was likely shared with "This Is Your Digital Life":
Your public profile, Page likes, birthday and current city
A small number of people who logged into "This Is Your Digital Life" also shared their own News Feed, timeline, posts and messages which may have included posts and messages from you. They may also have shared your hometown.
Fuck off, Zuckerberg, you limousine liberal phony.
I heard someone literally asked him if Twitter was Facebook.
Fuckin olds.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
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