***OFFICIAL 2017 MLB HOT STOVE THREAD***

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

yeah this year has been extremely strange...how far are we from spring training? cant be more than 2 weeks before pitchers/catchers report and there are a relative shitton of high profile guys still out there...

damn shame the agents are gonna have to earn their percentages in this market instead of GMs just throwing around 8 figure, long-term deals like drunken frat boys...

and LOL on them claiming collusion...GTFO...

Checked a couple of days ago & most teams pitchers & catchers report around Valentines day. Seems like it used to be earlier like around now. Maybe some CBA thing. Be here soon enough.

holy shit that's fucking nuts...I thought it was in the 20s...so we have no JD, jake, lynn, chairman yu, duda, Gomez, cargo, hosmer, holliday, Holland, lucroy, liriano, moose, lo mo, and I got too lazy to look any further...I mean some of those names are larger than others, but that's still a shitton of firepower 2 weeks before the reporting date for C&P...I get it that baseball is a different "team" sport that you don't have to be there on time to learn plays and shit, but these guys are total routine freaks...they miss some spring training or workouts and stuff it's gonna screw them up for the first few weeks or month...

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018-...-agent-tracker

[DRK Star]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...ster-rotation/

MLB Hot Stove: Cubs reportedly sign Yu Darvish to bolster rotation

[mulva]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...ster-rotation/

MLB Hot Stove: Cubs reportedly sign Yu Darvish to bolster rotation

smart move picking him up over arrieta. arrietta is quite possibly ready to turn into a 3/4/5 guy and a 4 era

[mulva]

Even more interesting is the Brewers now have 5 quality OF's, there must be another trade in the works for a rotation piece? Either Broxton or Santana the most likely to be traded, although would be interesting if they're dealing Braun....

they're fucking idiots. yelich is nice player, but he's no game changer. cain,...meh...are they improved....maybe..an paper it looks like a yes......but despite his low avg and other shortcomings broxton has some value and possibly some upside. now they want to move santana and broxton? ..i mean..lol compare santana and broxton to yelich and cain...

if yelich develops into a 30/30 guy and cain a 20/20 while provinding top defense..then hats off to the brew crew...but comparing the 4 players right now it doesn;t seem sided at all and replacing those 2 for these two looks counterproductive

[Dan Druff]

Fuck Yu has no consistency and you can't trust him in the playoffs. A contender picking him up is a



LOL Cubs if this is true

[mulva]

Fuck Yu has no consistency and you can't trust him in the playoffs. A contender picking him up is a



LOL Cubs if this is true

they improve regardless. he should pitch to low/mid 3's . swapping darvish for that arrieta tinder box is regular season capital gains

[Hockey Guy]

Fuck Yu has no consistency and you can't trust him in the playoffs. A contender picking him up is a



LOL Cubs if this is true

You do realize he was tipping his pitches in the WS don't you?

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

6/120 for the chairman...seems pretty reasonable...

[big dick]

he's a v good pitcher

[Dan Druff]

Fuck Yu has no consistency and you can't trust him in the playoffs. A contender picking him up is a



LOL Cubs if this is true

You do realize he was tipping his pitches in the WS don't you?

Yes, and I thought he was inconsistent before the Dodgers even got him. I also thought the same as I watched him pitch during the season.

Enjoy, Cubs fans!

[Dan Druff]

I agree that Arrieta is a shell of his former self, though.

LOL at any team that pays this guy a lot of money

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

obviously there are guys like kluber who make like 11 a year who are steals, but given where the chairman's salary is gonna fall in that list can't say that the cubs are gonna regret this one unless he absolutely bedshits, which I don't think he will...

[big dick]

I agree that Arrieta is a shell of his former self, though.

LOL at any team that pays this guy a lot of money

We will enjoy having yu
LOL @ Thinking Arrieta not worth big money I watched 75% of his starts the guy is very good

[Dan Druff]

I agree that Arrieta is a shell of his former self, though.

LOL at any team that pays this guy a lot of money

We will enjoy having yu
LOL @ Thinking Arrieta not worth big money I watched 75% of his starts the guy is very good

He sucked prior to 2014.

Then he was lights-out for 2 years, good in 2016, but very inconsistent in 2017.

2017 numbers not bad, but he's going the wrong direction.

Not a guy I would want to sink a lot of money into for multiple years.

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

We will enjoy having yu
LOL @ Thinking Arrieta not worth big money I watched 75% of his starts the guy is very good

He sucked prior to 2014.

Then he was lights-out for 2 years, good in 2016, but very inconsistent in 2017.

2017 numbers not bad, but he's going the wrong direction.

Not a guy I would want to sink a lot of money into for multiple years.

yeah but what are you gonna do if you need pitching? I mean you get 4 good years, a mediocre one, and a shit one...for 20 a year? plus he goes to the NL full time where he gets a pitcher batting for a good chunk of his starts...if they paid him in the mid 20s and up then they'd probably be regretting it, but don't think youre getting a guy like this for somewhere in the teens...

[big dick]

He should stay in the NL just for the fact that he can hit really well for a pitcher

[Dan Druff]

It is true that mediocre starting pitchers are WAY overpaid right now.

So based upon that, Arrieta isn't a bad deal for $20m/year.

But you just don't want him locked in for a lot of years, given the regression we're seeing.

[gut]

I bet Scott Boras is saying "Fuck Yu" a bit today....as Yu caving in to this deal sets the table for everyone else. I'm guessing Boras is asking for more than that for Arrieta, and no way any team pays him more than Yu.

[gut]

great blog post on this offseason:

https://www.athleticsnation.com/2018...ny-clark-mlbpa

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

great blog post on this offseason:

https://www.athleticsnation.com/2018...ny-clark-mlbpa

I liked the part that said the chairman was looking for price/greinke money...that would be such a fucking massive mistake to pay him those kinda dollars...that's why I think the cubs got a decent enough deal with 21 per...ideally a really good deal for the chairman (from a team's perspective) is in the high teens, but he's never signing for that so it's a non-starter to consider it a bad deal on that end...

again shit is gonna start to get a helluva lot more interesting in the next week as guys start to report...

I respect what boras does for his clients and stuff, but god is that guy a fucking cocksucker...