Originally Posted by Daly
I fucking hate when people play the so called race card and claim "white privilege".
Then you see this happen. Of Chum was from the ghetto he gets 3 at the min. It's nice to have $$.
To be fair, Chumlee should never have gotten any kind of money under him other than a hand to mouth paycheck. I mean just look at him, it was like 100% that he'd go off the rails.
Much respect Mr. 4D, I'm a fan, but Detroit is a city, we were only listing states.
state is not capitalized there:
http://www.mtcra.com/wp-content/uplo...-AND-STATE.pdf
It is so funny how everyone on this board has absolutely zero knowledge about how the justice system works, in the real world. Oh shit CHESNOFF IS GOD HE MUST HAVE PAID HIM A BAZILLION TO GET OFF.
You aren't getting time for a LONG list of things if you have a minimal or no record at all, in most at least moderate parts of the country. Could you get an asshat judge once in a 100 chances who gives you some token time? Probably, but the other 99 times you aren't. Not to mention the fact Chumlee is an otherwise upstanding, tax paying member of the community. He isn't a drug dealer, he isn't a career criminal, and no judge in their right mind would ever sentence someone like that to prison time. Why? There is literally no reason. Give him some probation, don't get caught again doing anything for 3 years, get out of my courtroom I have actual violent criminals to worry about. The end, whether you have 5,000 in the bank or 5m.
you are just smarter than the rest of us. carry on.
actually, can't let it go that easy. Chum was either a prior criminal with convictions or had some sort of documented drug problem which went through the courts. This is why he was charged with the firearm in possession of a prohibited person. He was also charged with felony drug possession based on the sheer amount of drugs and some sexual assault. maybe this isn't serious in your world, but it is in most of ours.
Giving Chumlee money is the equivalent of giving 408mike money, nothing good was going to come of it.actually, can't let it go that easy. Chum was either a prior criminal with convictions or had some sort of documented drug problem which went through the courts. This is why he was charged with the firearm in possession of a prohibited person. He was also charged with felony drug possession based on the sheer amount of drugs and some sexual assault. maybe this isn't serious in your world, but it is in most of ours.
Long time gone, I guess. You think Michigan is super corrupt overall? I don't know if it compares to the top dogs.How in Gods Green Earth do you leave Detroit out of that equation?
I think Detroit and Lansing have enough corruption for the rest of the State, but there are a few more redneck towns that have Judges under indictment and that makes me sick.. that I can't get in on that graft.Long time gone, I guess. You think Michigan is super corrupt overall? I don't know if it compares to the top dogs.
I fucking hate when people play the so called race card and claim "white privilege".
Then you see this happen. Of Chum was from the ghetto he gets 3 at the min. It's nice to have $$.
Are we sure about this? Wasn't he just charged with having drugs for persona use, and some bullshit gun charge, because it was illegal for him to have guns, since he was a drug user?
Obviously he got a much better deal than he would've if he had a public defender, but if you're going to commit crime you should at least have enough money to get an attorney. I'm guessing most attorneys that you have to pay could've gotten him a deal similar to this.
Are we sure about this? Wasn't he just charged with having drugs for persona use, and some bullshit gun charge, because it was illegal for him to have guns, since he was a drug user?
Obviously he got a much better deal than he would've if he had a public defender, but if you're going to commit crime you should at least have enough money to get an attorney. I'm guessing most attorneys that you have to pay could've gotten him a deal similar to this.
I have had Issues with credit cards in Europe
the sex charges were dropped, lack of evidence.
he had 1.7 grams of meth and 4 ounces of weed and 12 guns, 4 of which were registered to him.
1st offense + chesnoff = never doing a day in jail, ever.
honestly even with a public defender and no money for bail, 6 month suspended sentence / time served if no priors.
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He had priors. He also had lots of Xanax.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2940782/chu...ly-irrelevant/
Are you sure he had priors? He had none in clark county.. Even if he would've gone to trial, and been convicted on everything the time would've likely been served concurrently, and not consecutively, so the max he was really facing was 4 years. Obviously if you cut a deal you will get a lot less time than that, and if you have a decent attorney cut your deal for you, even less time if any.He had priors. He also had lots of Xanax.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2940782/chu...ly-irrelevant/
if not a prior conviction, then a prior drug charge which was expunged or the like after drug court/probation, etc. we know this b/c of the charge related to the firearms.Are you sure he had priors? He had none in clark county.. Even if he would've gone to trial, and been convicted on everything the time would've likely been served concurrently, and not consecutively, so the max he was really facing was 4 years. Obviously if you cut a deal you will get a lot less time than that, and if you have a decent attorney cut your deal for you, even less time if any.
don't get me wrong, i'm not saying he should be crucified. but never serving a day in jail? And why have felonies if they are simply reduced b/c you don't commit any further crimes? we aren't supposed to commit crimes.
I assumed the guns were only illegal because he had drugs in the house, and was obviously a drug user. Being a drug user, and possessing guns is illegal in vegas. 4 of the guns were registered to him, would they register guns to somebody that is barred by law from owning guns?if not a prior conviction, then a prior drug charge which was expunged or the like after drug court/probation, etc. we know this b/c of the charge related to the firearms.
don't get me wrong, i'm not saying he should be crucified. but never serving a day in jail? And why have felonies if they are simply reduced b/c you don't commit any further crimes? we aren't supposed to commit crimes.
Maybe I'm wrong. But it's what I've deduced from what I've read. At the end of the day he got a sweet deal. Good for him.
You got some top notch public pretenders i mean defenders in your area. Looks like a 3-5 year DOC plea bargain here. Our lawmakers are very friendly with private private lobbyists. Of course that has nothing to do with it.
edit: Huffpo headline
Tom Cotton Thinks America Isn’t Locking Enough People Up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...2dhg5569vhd7vi
Curious to see if he can still work in the pawn shop. For some reason I thought that required bonding of some sort.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
good ? my guess is that if a bond is a required, then misdemeanor won't preclude it, but in the interim while the felony pends he may not be able to.
If Chumlee had a public defender instead of defense attorney David Chesnoff, he would have gotten a minimum 3 to 5 years in state prison.
The gun charges alone carry a minimum of 2 years in prison, if picked by the the feds, it would be a 5 year minimum sentence.
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