If you disagree that it's dishonest or unethical, that's fine. I think most people consider hustling to be somewhat dirty, but I won't argue with you there.Originally Posted by adamantium
But not related? Everyone made these bets with Hastings because he led them to believe that he was rusty and out of practice, while he was secretly grinding high stakes mixed games. How is that not hustling?
If you disagree that it's dishonest or unethical, that's fine. I think most people consider hustling to be somewhat dirty, but I won't argue with you there.
But not related? Everyone made these bets with Hastings because he led them to believe that he was rusty and out of practice, while he was secretly grinding high stakes mixed games. How is that not hustling?
I'm sure he didn't strike these bets two months ago and said I won't practise or study before the WSOP.
He's hardly Titanic Thompson
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He's been at it since at least February.
Like I said before, I don't think it's a huge deal. Downplaying (or even straight lying about) your abilities to get favorable action is part of the game. It's also the definition of hustling, but we're just arguing semantics now.
people are pissed because he may have had reads on them online and could easily exploit or maybe wouldnt have played him because he is very good.
I don't have a FB. Quit derailing this thread.
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regarding the bracelet bets - no sympathy for anyone who made bets thinking they had an edge/were getting a +ev spot vs a guy who in theory is supposed to be a little rusty. alarm bells should have been going off as to why stinger wanted such action instead of rushing to book bets like they were printing free money. this is what prop bets are all about.
What an obnoxious, arrogant final statement.
Basically, he's saying, "I refuse to answer any of your cheating accusations. You guys are just bitter that you're losing in poker, while I am winning. Your sour grapes is dragging the game down. Let's be positive, folks! I'll soon be moving back to the US and won't be playing on Stars anymore, so whether I cheated earlier in the year should be irrelevant. Work on your game, folks! Lovingly, Brian."
Clearly he's guilty of the multi-accounting here. If he were innocent, the statement would have been, "I have no idea what anyone is talking about, and I have never played on the Noel Hayes account. Stars is welcome to investigate, because I am 100% innocent here."
Sometimes making no statement is better than making an evasive statement.
This is one of those times.
Agree.
I don't think the "OMG he's been practicing on Stars, he wasn't actually rusty after all!" thing is a big deal. Sure, he misrepresented how "rusty" he was, but a smart player like him could easily pick up enough knowledge of these games in 2 months to where he would still be a force at the table. So anyone betting against him based upon his own admissions of "rust" were hustled, but this wasn't anything terrible.
The bad part was the multi-accounting at high stakes on Stars. If people wouldn't have given him action under his own account there, then he was being unethical to play them under a different account -- especially if that account had a losing record prior to Brian taking it over. That's where the focus should be, not the bracelet bets.
On a side note, I wonder how Brian's family feels about his girlfriend. I'm not just talking about the black thing. She has the appearance of a wild, hard-partying gold digger, while Brian looks like someone you would see at a Magic the Gathering tournament. Viffer's girlfriend at least has the appearance of a sweet, girl-next-door type. This one looks like she latched onto Brian specifically for the $. I know nothing about her, but that's just my read from the pictures I've seen. You've got to think his Pennsylvanian parents aren't very happy about this.
Brian's "final statement" reminds me of Stoxtrader's empty arrogant statements when he was caught multi-accounting/colluding, except amazingly, this one says even less than Stoxtrader's posts.
jacosta is really fucking up the grade curve here.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
uhhhh stu unger betting someone 5k they can reach the green from a sand trap then pulling a foot long golf tee out of his back pocket is a hustle.If you disagree that it's dishonest or unethical, that's fine. I think most people consider hustling to be somewhat dirty, but I won't argue with you there.
But not related? Everyone made these bets with Hastings because he led them to believe that he was rusty and out of practice, while he was secretly grinding high stakes mixed games. How is that not hustling?
people betting hastings he cant bink bracelets because they believe brian when he says hes rusty isnt a hustle, its a bunch of opportunistic scavengers got took for their bets.
ps: the guy betting stu laughed, sighed, then paid.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Muck don't deny the woman that gave you birth, this was really on his FB....maybe not if Muck's mom had herself made over Rachal Dolezal style
She still looks better than Muck Ficon's mom
now i have to neg two other of your posts.
this is hard work.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
druff please change all my jacosta greens to reds i cant even
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
So what does a pool hustler do? Use marbles?
So what does a pool hustler do? Use marbles?
apples and oranges. totally different morality, rules, culture.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Somehow missed the Bakes PM posted on page 2 here, and just reposted it myself like an idiot.
Seriously, I read this whole thread, and just totally skipped that somehow.
So anyway, I'm really getting to dislike Hastings from reading his responses. Already lost some respect because of the "playing together against Isildur" thing, but the attitude he's displaying here is really unbelievable.
Seriously... trying to tell people not to out his wrongdoing because "it's going to hurt poker" is just so LOL.
He also cried to the mods about the Bakes PM being posted, citing that the 2+2 rules state you can't post PMs. Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed and his request to delete it was...
What a smarmy asshole.
Anyway, like Stoxtrader, I have a feeling he is going to slink out of poker and not be seen again. But perhaps not. Stoxtrader had a real job (hence his name), whereas Brian doesn't really have much else to do, and Sonya isn't going to be cheap to keep happy.
real talk tho, how great was stoxtrader back in the days? that guy slew.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Why do you keep on insisting this n-word "female" is an attractive golddigger?Somehow missed the Bakes PM posted on page 2 here, and just reposted it myself like an idiot.
Seriously, I read this whole thread, and just totally skipped that somehow.
So anyway, I'm really getting to dislike Hastings from reading his responses. Already lost some respect because of the "playing together against Isildur" thing, but the attitude he's displaying here is really unbelievable.
Seriously... trying to tell people not to out his wrongdoing because "it's going to hurt poker" is just so LOL.
He also cried to the mods about the Bakes PM being posted, citing that the 2+2 rules state you can't post PMs. Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed and his request to delete it was...
What a smarmy asshole.
Anyway, like Stoxtrader, I have a feeling he is going to slink out of poker and not be seen again. But perhaps not. Stoxtrader had a real job (hence his name), whereas Brian doesn't really have much else to do, and Sonya isn't going to be cheap to keep happy.
Slava Ukraini!
She doesn't have to be attractive to be a gold digger.Why do you keep on insisting this n-word "female" is an attractive golddigger?Somehow missed the Bakes PM posted on page 2 here, and just reposted it myself like an idiot.
Seriously, I read this whole thread, and just totally skipped that somehow.
So anyway, I'm really getting to dislike Hastings from reading his responses. Already lost some respect because of the "playing together against Isildur" thing, but the attitude he's displaying here is really unbelievable.
Seriously... trying to tell people not to out his wrongdoing because "it's going to hurt poker" is just so LOL.
He also cried to the mods about the Bakes PM being posted, citing that the 2+2 rules state you can't post PMs. Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed and his request to delete it was...
What a smarmy asshole.
Anyway, like Stoxtrader, I have a feeling he is going to slink out of poker and not be seen again. But perhaps not. Stoxtrader had a real job (hence his name), whereas Brian doesn't really have much else to do, and Sonya isn't going to be cheap to keep happy.
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