I'm not opposed to it. I'm only opposed to him doing it without informing those 8 members of Congress who were supposed to be informed.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
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I'm not opposed to it. I'm only opposed to him doing it without informing those 8 members of Congress who were supposed to be informed.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
You still don't get it do you, an act of war and a military action are two different things regardless of what a liberal wants to call it. Did you know Obama droned 2800 times during his presidency and asked permission 0 of those times!Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakI'm not opposed to it. I'm only opposed to him doing it without informing those 8 members of Congress who were supposed to be informed.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
Further on Congress has NEVER acted against a President for doing so, it aint happening, it was clean, you just hate orange people.
Link to where one of the 2800 killed a high ranking head of a foreign government.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPieceYou still don't get it do you, an act of war and a military action are two different things regardless of what a liberal wants to call it. Did you know Obama droned 2800 times during his presidency and asked permission 0 of those times!Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
Further on Congress has NEVER acted against a President for doing so, it aint happening, it was clean, you just hate orange people.
i feel comfortable calling assassinating a foreign leader an act of war.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPieceYou still don't get it do you, an act of war and a military action are two different things regardless of what a liberal wants to call it. Did you know Obama droned 2800 times during his presidency and asked permission 0 of those times!Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
Further on Congress has NEVER acted against a President for doing so, it aint happening, it was clean, you just hate orange people.
i get the feeling a lot of people in this thread werent paying attention the last time we started offing senior military middle eastern types.
“We do not seek regime change” Trump declares as he escalates his regime change war against Iran. Neocons like Graham/Bolton are cheering. To all who voted for Trump bc of his antiwar rhetoric, it’s time to realize he lied to u. Stand with me against Trump’s Iran War! #TrumpsWarQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
This was on her twitter. So, you know, super difficult to find.
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Originally Posted by devidee“We do not seek regime change” Trump declares as he escalates his regime change war against Iran. Neocons like Graham/Bolton are cheering. To all who voted for Trump bc of his antiwar rhetoric, it’s time to realize he lied to u. Stand with me against Trump’s Iran War! #TrumpsWarQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
This was on her twitter. So, you know, super difficult to find.
she posted this after i called her bitch ass out. so youre welcome.
Druff is napping hard until he can find the 'sensible take' amongst the pundits to regurgitate to explain the Stable Genius this time.
Imminent war seems to have caught the usual suspects off guard. I give it a day.
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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
speaking of which the hot goss is that pompeo didnt even know it was going to happen, hence him constantly contradicting the lines of absolute bullshit being spewed by graham.
Trump has called off the dogs a few times. He’s chosen to not escalate for the most part until last night. To say this is the new normal is a bit premature.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee“We do not seek regime change” Trump declares as he escalates his regime change war against Iran. Neocons like Graham/Bolton are cheering. To all who voted for Trump bc of his antiwar rhetoric, it’s time to realize he lied to u. Stand with me against Trump’s Iran War! #TrumpsWarQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
This was on her twitter. So, you know, super difficult to find.
Rand Paul:
“Do you think it’s more or less likely that Iran and their militias and their proxies will attack the U.S.? I would argue that it’s much more likely.”
"The president said he didn’t want to perpetual war in the Middle East, but he’s adding more and more troops. If you don’t want perpetual war, you don’t keep sending more targets over there.”
“I don’t think you can do an assassination like this and not think or at least believe that one of the unintended consequences will be war with Iran, so that’s why we in the Constitution did not allow one person to make this decision."
"You cannot kill a major general of another country and expect that they are going to sit down at the table and discuss with you. There’s just no scenario that I see that happening now.”
Paul said, he hasn’t spoken with the president recently and said he’s getting “unfortunate counsel from people who have been advocating for regime change in Iraq for years,” citing Lindsey Graham in particular.
Trump must be going to war with Iran, one of Russia’s closest allies, because he and Putin are best buds.
also lol at trying to negotiate with north korea after this. think they took note of what happens to countries without nuclear weapons?
MSNBC is now reporting that the Congressional leadership has now been consulted, including Democrats and are satisfied that there was an imminent threat.
You guys wonder why Steve Simon (Obama’s NSC official) directly warned Soleimani that this attack was imminent in his NYT article?
LULZ
You mean like we don’t know all the details and it’s possible there was good reason for it? The fuck?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Trump needs to kill Iran Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei next and invade Iran immediately.
It's time to eliminate these motherfuckers.
https://thebulletin.org/wp-content/u...i-Khamenei.jpg
https://nationalinterest.org/sites/d...?itok=d74E02bi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmhuQqPcOtY
Never thought this would apply to some here, sad, very sad the saddest.
Trump: "Some time prior to the election they'll be some kind of war started."
Hannity: "That would be the single most chilling abuse of power in American history."
I don’t remember a US president ever launching rockets to distract from an impeachment since the last time a US president launched rockets to distract from an impeachment way back in the 90s.
This is crazy, you guys.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
What the libtards don't want to accept or maybe because they know and are afraid is the election is already over, he's winning again. You cannot stop it, accuse him of collusion with Russia, adultery, bad tan spray, Ukraine, killing terrorists now (apparently that's bad)... doesn't matter. Your desperation stinks so bad even Pelosi cant bring herself to filing the paper work because its like a suicide pill.
2021 will be full of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrWzBg475Q8
There are only 3 countries left without a Rothschild Central Bank and Iran is one of them.
(((prolly just a jooincidence)))
Regardless of whether Trump could have handled this better and more responsibly from a procedural standpoint, the "act of war" thing is a bit overly dramatic because of the tremendous difference in military strength between the two countries.
It's not like the US taking out a top official in Russia.
What does Iran do at this point, even if they see it as an act of war? Start a war with the US where they know they'll get crushed? They're actually in a bad spot here.
If I were Trump, I wouldn't have done it this way, but realistically speaking the US pseudo-ransom payment to Iran under Obama in exchange for hostages sent a MUCH worse message.
Obama coughed up $400m to Iran which was owed (but unenforceable) for almost 40 years, in exchange for the release of hostages, and then officials in Iran bragged in the national media about their "victory" over the US, and how successful the hostage-taking was.
Trump was the opposite -- basically making an abrupt attack on one of their top officials, with the message, "Stop fucking with us."
it does seem like iran badly misread trump
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Originally Posted by blake
and when iran makes the north korea / sony hack look like a saturday morning cartoon, i wont hold it against you if you want to revise that to 'it does seem like trump badly misread iran'.
also sure am glad hillary didnt get elected or thousands of troops might be heading to the middle east again.
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Originally Posted by nightmarefishIf it was between her and any of the current Dem candidates in 2020, I would pick her 100 out of 100 times. And I hate that bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
My sentiment exactly.
I moved the blake/big dick stuff to a new thread: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...are-you-jewish
Feel free to disregard altogether or disagree. I won’t be able to substantiate any of this. That being said.
There was an active plot that was going to unfold in Iraq. Noting “major major” that would have interrupted the local TV station, but he wasn’t swinging by the Iraq airport on his way to Aruba.
Warnings have been issued to overseas military personnel to keep your eyes and ears open while flying. Most likely general terror response will be an overseas airport/flight.
Consensus is the most likely retaliation will be an attempt on a VIP while overseas and not bombing Disney world France or some other institution.
So Pelosi is butt hurt that she wasn't one of the very few in congress that was consulted before the attack...
you wanna know the real reason she's pissed?
because she missed a chance at insider trading: e.g.; short American Airlines & buy Martin Lockheed
Fox "news" only cries about money (that doesn't effect your life at all)when the Dems spend it. 400m for 5 years of Iran obeying us was a good deal, no matter what Tucker Carlson says.
Per Forbes, Trump will spend that golfing, so where is the Hannity rant on that?
Had to fix this headline, Ex-WPT host Courtney Friel claims Donald Trump invited her to Trump Tower to ‘kiss’
Ex-Fox News reporter Courtney Friel claims Donald Trump invited her to Trump Tower to ‘kiss’
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...mpression=true
She says Trump told her she was “the hottest one at Fox News”...........“Then, out of nowhere, he said: ‘You should come up to my office sometime, so we can kiss,’”
Trump’s Golf Trips Could Cost Taxpayers Over $340 Million
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo.../#76dc95a628aa
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Heterosexual he is, how dare he, is that impeachable?
What a BS excuse, name a day in the last 18 years this hasn't been true?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Aside from the day Obama made the deal until the day Trump sabotaged it, EVERY SINGLE DAY.
You guys gotta stop drinking that Seth Rich Kool-aid,
to act like Trump did good, by getting us out the deal Obama had, I don't even get how Fox can spin that,
even Devidee should be able to see through this BS.
It’s not BSQuote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415What a BS excuse, name a day in the last 18 years this hasn't been true?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Aside from the day Obama made the deal until the day Trump sabotaged it, EVERY SINGLE DAY.
You guys gotta stop drinking that Seth Rich Kool-aid,
to act like Trump did good, by getting us out the deal Obama had, I don't even get how Fox can spin that,
even Devidee should be able to see through this BS.
Having ulterior motives to do a good thing is still a good thing right?
Asking for a friend
i'm not saying you're wrong and i feel like iran has to respond. but what happens to iran if they retaliate? if you're in iran's shoes, what do you do? are you going to overtly attack our citizens or military? that risks annihilation for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
and when iran makes the north korea / sony hack look like a saturday morning cartoon, i wont hold it against you if you want to revise that to 'it does seem like trump badly misread iran'.
i can see a cyberattack like you said, but it had better be something so covert that iran has plausible deniability that it wasn't them, or again, doesn't that risk a regime change?
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Originally Posted by blakei'm not saying you're wrong and i feel like iran has to respond. but what happens to iran if they retaliate? if you're in iran's shoes, what do you do? are you going to overtly attack our citizens or military? that risks annihilation for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
i can see a cyberattack like you said, but it had better be something so covert that iran has plausible deniability that it wasn't them, or again, doesn't that risk a regime change?
you know they have nukes right?
to be clear they are an undeclared nuclear power. those centrifuges werent just party favors.
So Iran has a nuclear bomb ready to go? And they could one day is not the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
you know they have nukes right?
to be clear they are an undeclared nuclear power. those centrifuges werent just party favors.
This should be interesting... ya know if your fear is based in reality or not.