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I voted for Hillary and she eats the pineal glands of young children; so maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
well how bout that. would you vote for biden? i assume you're a tulsi fanQuote:
Originally Posted by devidee
I thought we were voting for the little china’min.
Trump absolutely did not need congressional approval. The leftist talking points and sheer amount of ignorance in this thread somehow continues to get even more laughable.
The guy was greenlit from this point. Let's pretend that he wasn't hanging around in Iraq right after our embassy was attacked.Quote:
In April 2019, the U.S. designated the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, including the Quds Force, a "foreign terrorist organization." In making the announcement, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo singled out Soleimani.
:facepalm
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Originally Posted by devideeI voted for Hillary and she eats the pineal glands of young children; so maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
I thought we were voting for the little china’min.
jesus, i misread you
You guys remember when Obama killed Anwar al-Awlaki with a drone strike?
That guy was a US citizen.
I member.
The real issue I see from this is the further delusional mind set that has infected the democratic party to the point they now defend terrorists.
The bar of crazy has been raised, no one with any common sense could vote for a party who wouldn't vote to kill a terrorist.
I mean, if you have got to the point where you hate someone so much you defend murderous terrorists, you legit need a straight jacket.
There is literally nothing Trump could do the dem's wouldn't argue against...
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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
and then we have bootlickers like this who can only survive on right wing media dicks for nourishment.
there was absolutely no imminent threat of attack to americans home or abroad, and quds was designated a terrorist org by no less than rumsfeld and cheney themselves because they were complicating the end game for operation enduring freedom (lol). i expect you to keep cheering when the entire region turns into a massive proxy bloodbath. gonna be telling to see how loud your cheering when your kids get drafted to solve it.
aaaaanyway a whistleblower just dumped a trove of documents showing that deutchebanks shady loans to trump were underwritten by a russian state bank;
https://forensicnews.net/2019/12/30/...ower-told-fbi/
how about that wild timing coincidence, this dropping while trump goes balls deep down the same neocon rabbithole as our last team retard fuckups.
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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
you don't see a distinction between killing a "terrorist" that is unaffiliated with an actual foreign government such as osama bin laden and one that is actually head of a country?
one of them is a clear act of war and one isn't.
maybe war with iran is a good thing, but this is an escalation beyond anything we've seen recently
and tucker carlson blasted trump over this.
You know how you keep your country safe, kill the people or persons who are planning to attack it.
Wasn't that the whole Osama argument, oh we allowed him to ABC should have killed him prior etc etc etc. Then 9/11.
Trump takes the approach we should have with the likes of Osama and he's wrong lol
And the fact he was a high level gov official does not take away the fact he was a terrorist. Pretty sure Hitler ruled Germany but never heard anyone use that as an excuse to allow him to go nuts.
That is how sick liberal minds have become folks, sick the sickest. Would chose a terrorist over their fellow American. That is why, this is why Trump WILL win again in 2020.
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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
ok thanks for clearing that up
wait is he being sarcastic?
im awarding him 10 shiny internets if hes being sarcastic.
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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
yeah, this guy was a huge threat to america. lol. i swear you people are on the verge of getting me back on the tulsi train.
the point you're missing is that we've invited war over this.
you may be right though. historically, things go really well for us when we overthrow foreign governments in the middle east. i see no downside whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by blakeQuote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
yeah, this guy was a huge threat to america. lol. i swear you people are on the verge of getting me back on the tulsi train.
the point you're missing is that we've invited war over this.
you may be right though. historically, things go really well for us when we overthrow foreign governments in the middle east. i see no downside whatsoever.
He could have been, maybe not, want to wait and find out? At the least he killed hundreds of Americans, still not good enough?
We didn't invite war, turn off CNN already.
As far as I can see no one wants to overthrow Iran that's a huge leap. That attempt wouldn't be pretty but for now killing their terrorist generals and militias will suffice.
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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPieceQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
He could have been, maybe not, want to wait and find out? At the least he killed hundreds of Americans, still not good enough?
We didn't invite war, turn off CNN already.
As far as I can see no one wants to overthrow Iran that's a huge leap. That attempt wouldn't be pretty but for now killing their terrorist generals and militias will suffice.
jesus, whether war ultimately occurs or not, killing their top commander is a clear invitation to war. that would be like them killing mike pence. think we'd respond with a stern warning?
when the iranians respond by killing some of our guys, what do we do then?
but yeah no one wants to see a regime change in iran. what am i thinking
oh wait
I believe the regime change narrative is a scare tactic, that would be hugely bloody and difficult. But that is another discussion.
Reports are now coming out that he had plans in several countries to carry out organized attacks against US personnel, even the bias CNN is now reporting.
Like it or not the man was an evil terrorist who kills Americans, period and planned more.
The excuse of "don't piss off the terrorists who already kill us" is a poor and passive excuse. It defies logic when applied to any situation when dealing with a threat.
It needed doing, revenge attack, cyber attack,international love loss, money whatever, needed doing.
so there was an 'imminent attack' but the gang of 8 was never warned?
definitely Things Functional Governments Do.
Don’t worry goys!!! Israel was certainly consulted.
To everyone that’s against this, What is the number of Americans he would have had to kill for you to get on board?
ok when do i get to be treated as a liberator this time exactly?
Why was he killing Americans?Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
(((if that statement is even accurate)))
How many before you would be on board?Quote:
Originally Posted by devideeWhy was he killing Americans?Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
(((is that statement is even accurate)))
devidee voting for hillary is the most shocking development in this thread.
If it was between her and any of the current Dem candidates in 2020, I would pick her 100 out of 100 times. And I hate that bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
yeah but would you pick her over trump?Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishIf it was between her and any of the current Dem candidates in 2020, I would pick her 100 out of 100 times. And I hate that bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Should say SONatine lol
Probably burn my vote again. Last time I couldn’t in good coincidence vote for either of them and burned mine on, LMFAO, Gary Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeyeah but would you pick her over trump?Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
6 gorillianQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishHow many before you would be on board?Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Well.... there is the fact that he was actualy Exicuting the plans. That seems like an important mention here.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
its the equivalent of killing bolton or rumsfeld at the respective peaks of their careers.
also...:
“General Suleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region,”
thats called war games. every country on earth does this. what if we did this, what would happen if we did that, how would we accomplish x y z. you actively develop plans so youre ready to pivot to responses in real time.
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Originally Posted by Daly
No it's not. Id ramble on my point but its late and you're wrong even if I don't.
Ill state it simply this way...
In 230 years since written the line between the limits of a presidents ability to act has been unclear.
What is now more clear is the declaration of war, not military action.
Truman was the first to declare war before asking.
So far at LEAST 40-50+ military actions one may consider needing congress to approve have taken place since 9/11, congress did NOTHING each time.
You see, if what Trump did by ordering this MILITARY ACTION is impeachable, you have handfuls of presidents to impeach.
So cuts the leftist BS, it was a clean kill. The only issue Pelosi or Congress has with this one is Trump did it.
Goodnight folks
He assasinated the probable #2 guy in Iran. That transcends a “military action”.
Like most other people I’m not exactly against what happened, but this is a major major event. He crossed the rubicon on this act.
re: latest with Iran
it's another fine mess we've gotten ourselves into
ya know, the WWII PAX Americana era is about up...as a US Citizen I say there better be a payoff if we are gonna take on the last unfriendly major oil producer in the middle east
so an alert to all you Euro Pussy Cuntries -- you better join in a pay/do your share on this or you will be surcharged max when the US/Russia/India/Japan/SE Asian coalition takes over the middle east--you think you bastards and sit around slacking while getting rich without US getting wise to your horseshit? Join up or we'll leave you to deal with China yourselves
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Although per your sarcasm this is not a functional government by any stroke of the imagination.
I am still astounded by the muted reaction. There is no fear and uncertainty. This will be a debate about Parliamentary procedure in the end.Quote:
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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
He assasinated the probable #2 guy in Iran. That transcends a “military action”.
Like most other people I’m not exactly against what happened, but this is a major major event. He crossed the rubicon on this act.
Impeachment, unilateral political assassination in an oil producing country. Nothing. Calm.
You can’t help but recall Trump’s “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters.” I don’t credit Trump so much as wonder who America is.
I try very hard to live and trade what I see, think for myself and filter the noise. Mute CNBC, Fox, etc etc. People are odd and I view them with curiosity. What I think is not reflected by the public. It gives me a distance and objectivity I value greatly.
Dark corners of the internet and infotainment will drone on but you gotta filter that shit. It’s not reflective of the masses.
Nevertheless, personally I do not get it. This assassination would have insta-shook markets 10 or 20 years ago. Our military actions throughout the world for the past 70 years infuriates me. People have never been better informed and yet so apathetic. Weird times.
We’ve been at it so long over there through so many administrations that I think people have removed it from their consciousness.
At 6 gorillian achievement is unlocked and you get awarded a free ethno-State.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Although per your sarcasm this is not a functional government by any stroke of the imagination.
fun fact; he warned putin but not congress.
not so weird...its what the ultra elite of the western world want...take over the last unfriendly oil country in the middle east and keep it from Chinese influenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I just had to ventQuote:
Originally Posted by GrenadaRogernot so weird...its what the ultra elite of the western world want...take over the last unfriendly oil country in the middle east and keep it from Chinese influenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
But you aren’t wrong. I don’t have the time but I’d bet $10 that Iran was Truman’s first action post WWII for precisely the same reasons
Foreverso
As a finer point.... We are less dependent on foreign oil than ever. China is more dependent than ever. The first is easy to understand today ... the latter harder to absorb
It’s mostly your last paragraph san. I mean, if you’re even 30, what do you know since you’re 10 years old? I find myself talking to young people and I’ll think, you’re 23, your memory of 9/11 is similar to my memory of helicopters on roofs in Saigon and wonder why I’m talking to them like they have any real frame of reference? Old persons folly. Like when I was a kid and my grandparents would talk about Pearl Harbor day.
I imagine it would have shook markets in the past because people naturally leapt to what Russia or China’s response would be. But really when is the last time shit was even tense? Cuban Missile Crisis? People just sense that this is all kabuki theater to feed the military industrial complex and you’ll have your expected condemnations by Russia or whomever and right back to business as usual. Creating war from a different angle in the Middle East is business as usual.
Add in 200 channels no one watches besides old people because most are watching YouTube and immediately it’s all disinformation one way or the other. We got comfortable with presidential overreach during that Alberto Gonzales era and Obama continued it and everyone realized presidents could do what they wanted and it only mattered if people cared, and people don’t care. It’s kind of amazing. Add in our president is Trump and it’s all through the looking glass. I don’t even know what’s supposed to be important or matter. I find myself looking around after something seems important and no one gives a fuck and I think it must be me.
he said what???
according to ABC News today:
re: ...the U.S. airstrike that killed Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said Friday that he was informed about the operation beforehand earlier this week while visiting President Donald Trump in Florida.
"I appreciate being brought into the orbit. I really appreciate President Trump letting the world know you cannot kill an American without impunity," Graham said.
wrong words...should be "without retaliation" or "with impunity"
both the Senator and ABC News need a dictionary imo
shout out to tulsi gabbard suddenly not being quite so ... present.