I love it! There are actual retards and 10/10 alcoholics who are espousing Trump's "mental decline".
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I love it! There are actual retards and 10/10 alcoholics who are espousing Trump's "mental decline".
How the fuck do you know what espousing means? Only liberals use words like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS_
McCabe about to get indicted.
LULZ
quick reminder.. now that trump has fired his national security advisor (third in three years btw), trump is now in charge of national security.
Frankly, he’s probably more rational than Bolton.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
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Originally Posted by sonatine
not saying much but i'd have to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by KryptFrankly, he’s probably more rational than Bolton.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
bolton quit because trump wanted to bribe iran 15 _billion_ dollars to return to compliance with the nuclear deal they made with obama.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...an-sources-say
so literally 'the great negotiator' snapped iran off clean from a deal they had made with obama.
then he offers to pay them 15 billion american tax dollars to put the genie back in the bottle.
i absolutely cant wait for the hot takes from the conservative cult here to spin this as somehow being a liberal failing.
blow my mind, kids.
It’s about time:
like quick reality check;
senile reality tv star was asked for permission to kill osama bin laden's son, and the senile reality tv star gave that permission, and osama bin laden's son was killed.
thats a thing that happened, on this planet floating in deep space, that we are all on.
Has anyone brought up the fact that Israel was caught planting stingray devices in and around the WH premises? Seems like a story worth more media scrutiny, but it’s been eerily silent on that front. Can you imagine the frenzy if it was Russia or Iran? Guess no one wants to be called anti-semitic.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Iran aligned Yemen rebel drones strike Saudi oil. i.e. Iran strikes Saudi oil
Not actually paying them $15b. It's a $15b credit line backed by Iranian oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Other than that correction, I do have to agree that this is stupid. Better to slap Iran with sanctions and then offer to ease them, if you want them to play ball.
However, Obama was also no picnic when it came to Iran. He paid them a $400 million ransom in order to get hostages released, which he postured was simply paying a 1979 debt the US had to them, and Iran totally independently released hostages the same day. Then Iran clowned Obama after it was over, and said it was a ransom. Owned. http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...ayment-to-Iran (scroll down a bit to see my analysis)
the myth that obama's payment wasnt demanded by law is up there with clinton/uranium conspiracy theories at this point.
if i were trump, at this point, id just publicly apologize to iran and be like 'lol yall play too much' and just hope everything is cool. he really has no other moves to make.
Ya wth davidee where were u on that, a cpl busy days irl??Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
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Originally Posted by Krypt
So couple of things... 1) we've found Russian stingrays in Washington in the past if memory serves, and 2) I havent heard a peep about what forensics led then to Israel's door for attribution. Russia or Iran rolling out a bunch of half assed stingrays with Israeli chipsets in them, knowing Team Retard would swallow the bait? Seems more likely than Israel doing it simply by virtue of us stumbling across them. But you know, I mean, everyone spies on everyone, it keeps the table honest.
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Originally Posted by Krypt
So couple of things... 1) we've found Russian stingrays in Washington in the past if memory serves, and 2) I havent heard a peep about what forensics led then to Israel's door for attribution. Russia or Iran rolling out a bunch of half assed stingrays with Israeli chipsets in them, knowing Team Retard would swallow the bait? Seems more likely than Israel doing it simply by virtue of us stumbling across them. But you know, I mean, everyone spies on everyone, it keeps the table honest.
And yet there u were being a hof muh russia shill
I seriously once or twice set a "helped trump win" line thesidedish -200 Russia +160 and got no action
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Originally Posted by thesidedish
The difference between spying and subverting our election process is considerable.
No Todd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
It was Irans money to begin that had been frozen decades earlier.
But you already knew that.
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
The difference between spying and subverting our election process is considerable.
:lol
FACTS:
julian Assange has never been caught telling a lie
the us intelligence agencies have
Russians are not funny in the least, so absolutely awful trolls
So go ahead take Russia +160 u faggot
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Originally Posted by sonatine
The payment was ignored for 37 years, and there was no urgency to pay it. It could have been ignored for another 37 years without any consequence.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
I'm not even bothered that it was eventually paid. I was bothered by the fact that Obama was so naive that he tied the release of the hostages to it, so as to give the obvious optics of being a pay-for-release-of-hostages situation.
Iran even predictably postured about it right afterwards, telling their people that they stood strong against the US, took hostages, and got paid a ransom equivalent to what has been owed since 1979. It looked like a huge victory to the Iranian people, and a win for terrorism.
Obama wasn't even aware enough to have the hostage release occur BEFORE the $400m payment, or at least get the Iranian leaders to announce beforehand that this isn't a ransom, and that they are releasing the American hostages in good faith as appreciation for Obama paying that 37-year-old debt.
Instead that chump just handed them $400m, got the hostages back the same day, and Iran's leaders clowned Obama hard in their state run media.
Obama is a smart guy, but he was really a naive buffoon sometimes when it came to foreign policy. This was a great example.
I hate when I get sued for liable.
Do you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
The payment was ignored for 37 years, and there was no urgency to pay it. It could have been ignored for another 37 years without any consequence.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading so you should stop saying it.
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Originally Posted by duped_samaritanDo you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The payment was ignored for 37 years, and there was no urgency to pay it. It could have been ignored for another 37 years without any consequence.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading.
this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
Obama killed more brown people than W.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanDo you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading.
this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
Hell, he even drone donk-downed a US citizen.
I think you mean “Breitbart News flavored fantasy”, because I don’t think Druff listens to any other radio show than his own, but regularly consumes (and adopts as gospel) the rightwing bullshit posted on that site.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanDo you think the tribunal that was about to rule on it was just bullshit? They were either going to work out a deal directly with Iran or they would be bound by whatever ruling the Tribunal was about to make, and the $400m was just the principle balance, it was the interest they were negotiating over while simultaneously negotiating the nuclear deal and the prisoner release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I agree the optics were bad, but "Obama paid Iran $400m!!!!" is completely misleading.
this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
how long until we are at war with Iran?Quote:
Originally Posted by devideeObama killed more brown people than W.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
this has been explained to him for at least 3 years. he's just not interested in letting go of his rush limbaugh flavored fantasy because it props up his world view that somehow obama was 'weak on foreign policy'.
Hell, he even drone donk-downed a US citizen.
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Originally Posted by big dickhow long until we are at war with Iran?Quote:
Originally Posted by devideeObama killed more brown people than W.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Hell, he even drone donk-downed a US citizen.
well we're probably trying to finish this one before we start another.
https://www.usnews.com/news/business...mobil-refinery
This is where our political tribal mindset betrays us. The right leaning folks here have plenty of other shit to hammer Obama on. He’s the last guy to be calling weak on foreign policy. That guy dropped more bombs per day than any other president in history times a factor of 5. Clinton wasn’t bad either. Nobody would
Confuse either one with the Bush family but all and all it hasn’t been so bad. Carter on the other hand is a complete fucking disgrace to the office. Drives me crazy that they end the movie Argo (which was a good movie/story) on January 20th 1980 like nothing else happened that day to end the hostage crisis.
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Originally Posted by Daly
Is there a point to that paragraph? ....Just say it man.....that is babble
Who's the father?
It's not Donald Trump.
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.co...8&h=410&crop=1
Uh ohz trump says we are locked and loaded after assault on Saudi Oil
wth why are the libtards on some Kavanaugh shit again
:TRAIN
the U.S is just itching to get into a war with Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
LOL @ LIBTARDS NOT BEING ABLE TO SPOT A CRAZY PERSON and even shilling for one. if Christine blasey ford's dad supported Kavanaugh's nomination that's a lock of the century "ya my daughter is a fkn trainwreck" and what other discussion needs to be had
We’ve heard more about Kavanaugh’s alleged sex life than Jeffrey Esptein’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
(((prolly just a jooincidence)))
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Originally Posted by TheXFactor
I didn’t check the first two, but that last one is disingenuous. It felt too far out there for even Trump. It’s designed to look like he claimed that himself, rather than quoting noted nutjob Wayne Allyn Root.