IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT STRATEGIC PATIENCE
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IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT STRATEGIC PATIENCE
#MAGA
LOL. I am not sure there is a single historical incident pertaining to the early 20th century that is accurate in this post. And it isn't even a matter of differing perspective, it is just made up nonsense. I would hazard to guess the Bible is more historically accurate than the accounts of this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
It's also the 100 yr anniversary of the beginning of the Bolshevik revolution.
RIP Russians
Actually this brings up a really weird double standard that I totally don't get.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Whether you agree Israel should exist in the first place is one question.
However, given that it does exist, and it is perpetually at war with certain groups actively trying to destroy it (PLO, HAMAS, Hezbollah, etc.) I find the constant criticism of it very strange.
Basically critics are telling Israel not to fight back in a war where they are the stronger party. Where is the precedent for this? Where in the history of humanity has a nation ever gotten into a war (whether they should be in the war or not is a separate question), been winning, and then decided just to shut it down and let itself be attacked/destroyed unilaterally? There is certainly no precedent for such behavior in the US or the Muslim world. So I find I hard to take the criticism of Israel's tactics very seriously.
For their part I don't think the Muslim countries really think Israel is doing anything immoral or wrong. It is certainly not doing anything more than any of them would do in similar circumstances. In fact I think it is pretty clear that EVERY Muslim nation would be much more aggressive towards fighting enemies toward such nation. However, the Muslim countries realize that the SJWs of the Western world has a hard-on for swooping to the rescue to fight injustice and victims. So they are just playing along as the victimized parties, so that the Western world will put pressure on Israel to unilaterally not fight to secure its own ends, while they go ahead and proceed towards doing their best to defeat Israel politically, militarily, demographically, etc.
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Originally Posted by verminaardActually this brings up a really weird double standard that I totally don't get.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Whether you agree Israel should exist in the first place is one question.
However, given that it does exist, and it is perpetually at war with certain groups actively trying to destroy it (PLO, HAMAS, Hezbollah, etc.) I find the constant criticism of it very strange.
Basically critics are telling Israel not to fight back in a war where they are the stronger party. Where is the precedent for this? Where in the history of humanity has a nation ever gotten into a war (whether they should be in the war or not is a separate question), been winning, and then decided just to shut it down and let itself be attacked/destroyed unilaterally? There is certainly no precedent for such behavior in the US or the Muslim world. So I find I hard to take the criticism of Israel's tactics very seriously.
For their part I don't think the Muslim countries really think Israel is doing anything immoral or wrong. It is certainly not doing anything more than any of them would do in similar circumstances. In fact I think it is pretty clear that EVERY Muslim nation would be much more aggressive towards fighting enemies toward such nation. However, the Muslim countries realize that the SJWs of the Western world has a hard-on for swooping to the rescue to fight injustice and victims. So they are just playing along as the victimized parties, so that the Western world will put pressure on Israel to unilaterally not fight to secure its own ends, while they go ahead and proceed towards doing their best to defeat Israel politically, militarily, demographically, etc.
you could just google israel + confiscated + settlements if you really want to get to the heart of the matter but and im just being honest here i assume you dont.
OPERATION COLUMBIAN NECKTIE!! GOGOGOGOGO!!!
Guys... Rick Santorum himself just said the GOP imploded in Virginia because Trump has delivered fuckall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6-jaG9yPws
Not an opposite pick.
Verminaard - if you could quit quoting posters that you yourself say post drivel and that half the forum has on ignore, thatd be great k thx
yeah especially if you are going to defend the jews!
Shouldn't you be out celebrating the anniversary of Kristallnacht?Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
What went wrong w Sonatine's crew? Despite my political disagreements w these gentlemen, one thing's clear they're not secretly anti American.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSmedeK4N70
The truth about white people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz608skKbIc
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Originally Posted by hongkongerShouldn't you be out celebrating the anniversary of Kristallnacht?Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Please just put him on your blocked list and forget he exists.
Believe it or not I've never blocked anyone. Sorta goes against my personal philosophy. But I've considered it with FPS. When's the last time he posted anything other than Jewish conspiracy garbage?Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBQuote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Please just put him on your blocked list and forget he exists.
hey fps can you go back to posting jimmy dore videos and not typing anything, thanks pal
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
you could just google israel + confiscated + settlements if you really want to get to the heart of the matter but and im just being honest here i assume you dont.
Again. What country wouldn't do this in similar circumstances. Where is the historical precedent that suggests Israel is doing anything atypical? This is a serious question. If you can actually provide an example that would be great.
In the modern world today you could go down a list and name 30 countries that have worse human rights abuses than Israel. And none of us give a shit about any of them. Why is that? Why such a hard on for Israel? At least FPS has a stated reason, the Jews are an evil force that is secretly running the world that must be stopped at all costs (I am paraphrasing but I am sure you get the gist of it).
Most of the Jews in Israel are 2nd-4th generation refugees from Europe, Russia and the Middle East. Why in the world do we hold them to higher standards than we would anyone else in the history of the world.
Did we decide that 3rd generation descendants of Jewish refugees are the pinnacle of mankind and as such should be held to higher standards than any other group of humans that has ever lived? If that is your argument, than that is fine. But if you are trying to argue that Israel is doing anything especially heinous or unusual given their circumstances than you don't have a very good perspective of how the world and human societies operate, both historically and today.
I doubt I am going to block him cause that isn't my style, but I will stop engaging him. Everytime I try to engage him, he pretty much just ignores me or gives a very unsatisfactory reply. I don't think he actually has devoted any self-generated critical thought on this matter, or even has the ability to do so. I think he just copy and pastes stuff other people write, and may not actually even read it. No point engaging someone who doesn't even seem to have a very good grasp of their own argument/position and is just parroting the words of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBQuote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Please just put him on your blocked list and forget he exists.
I will say the whole notion of "white pride" is pretty silly. Of course no more silly than Black pride, or Latino pride, or womyn pride, but silly nonetheless.
People indigenously from Europe with low amounts of melanin in their skin (which is an environmental adaptation to living in areas with low levels of sunlight) and not much else in common have been not getting along and fighting each other for the last 40,000 years or so. Now in the last 200 years we are no longer isolated from other groups of people like we historically have, so we decided all of a sudden we are a "race" and should have "pride" in our non existent shared heritage. Pretty ridiculous.
Hey Retards, you know all those articles on InfoWars that you love? Guess where they came from?
They also stole articles from CNN, the BBC, NY Times, and Washington Post.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/janelytvyne...oaZ#.uczx54aJ8
Wow, Alex Jones is the Manchurian Candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
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Originally Posted by verminaardQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Again. What country wouldn't do this in similar circumstances.
Every single other country in the UN just for starters. It's illegal, immoral, and inhumane.
Which, granted, is your comfort zone apparently.
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Originally Posted by verminaard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL8rfHMt1p8
How horrible are the Republicans? The Dems ran a bunch of circus freaks and won and when they win the majorities back with these freaks (the GOP is that bad) they'll use it as justification for unlimited Muslim immigration.
You probably think I'm going to be bitter and lock my self inside but I'm not, I'm going to be their best friend. I can see me at a table of Hijabs and Muslim beards having dinner, sharing stories about the Jews. So remember if the Jews succeed at flooding us with Muslims (they prob. will the GOP sucks that bad). Embrace them and turn them against the Jews, as if they aren't already. Make their plan backfire hahahahaha
Oh and I'm not falling for Donna Brazilles bullshit, that corrupt pile of shit needs to resign asap.
You really believe this? Honestly, my opinion of you has gone down a lot from this exchange.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
Every single other country in the UN just for starters. It's illegal, immoral, and inhumane.
Which, granted, is your comfort zone apparently.
It appears you just are an ideologue who is handed a script to follow and does so with no critical thought. Basically the same thing as Mintjewlips on the other side. That is fine. That is how most people are. They join a tribe, are given a list of things they are told they are supposed to believe, and do so dutifully.
The thing I often ponder is: was Balfour trying to do the right thing to a people that have been persecuted for centuries, or was he solely acting on British interests?Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaardQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Again. What country wouldn't do this in similar circumstances. Where is the historical precedent that suggests Israel is doing anything atypical? This is a serious question. If you can actually provide an example that would be great.
In the modern world today you could go down a list and name 30 countries that have worse human rights abuses than Israel. And none of us give a shit about any of them. Why is that? Why such a hard on for Israel? At least FPS has a stated reason, the Jews are an evil force that is secretly running the world that must be stopped at all costs (I am paraphrasing but I am sure you get the gist of it).
Most of the Jews in Israel are 2nd-4th generation refugees from Europe, Russia and the Middle East. Why in the world do we hold them to higher standards than we would anyone else in the history of the world.
Did we decide that 3rd generation descendants of Jewish refugees are the pinnacle of mankind and as such should be held to higher standards than any other group of humans that has ever lived? If that is your argument, than that is fine. But if you are trying to argue that Israel is doing anything especially heinous or unusual given their circumstances than you don't have a very good perspective of how the world and human societies operate, both historically and today.
Regardless it was a fucking huge mistake!
Give me one precedent where a people have been conquered and handed back their lands 2,000+ years later?
The British pretty much acted in their own *interests* (plural), and as per the example how they brutally worked to surpress the Indian independence movement, they aren't known for "trying to do the right thing" for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_AusQuote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
The thing I often ponder is: was Balfour trying to do the right thing to a people that have been persecuted for centuries, or was he solely acting on British interests?
Regardless it was a fucking huge mistake!
Give me one precedent where a people have been conquered and handed back their lands 2,000+ years later?
First, the British Zionist, both Jews and their Christian allies, weren't arguing that they could get *America* to join with the British in the war because American Jews did not yet have much political power there. Unlike in much of Europe by that time, Jews in American were heavily discriminated against in traditonal seats of power, both in and outside of the government. Instead, they advanced the notion that Britian advancing Zionism would dramatically increase support among *German* Jews for ending the war, and those Jews have a lot more political capital within the German political economy than American Jews in their country. Which later revelation contributed to the credibility of the anti-Semitic "stabbed in the back" narrative among Germans.
:snake
Second, as with fundamentalist Christians in current American politics, End Times-anticipating Christians among the British ruling class were very strong supporters of Zionism, including hosting Zionists to speak among their exclusive social circles in the decades leading up to war, being allies to Jewish Zionists within the British government regarding appointments to key positions dealing with Palestine, and being apponted to adminstrative positions in Palestine after the war. In fact, their lopsided support for Jewish Zionists in Palestine during that period helped foment such extremely bad reactions to Jewish Zionists their among the resident Arabs that Balfour himself later deemed that eponymous declaration a huge mistake.
:baddecision
Oh, and the British's record re not "doing a right thing" for others: A leading British diplomat of that era later publicly admitted in an open debate that the Arabs who supported Britian in fighting against the Ottomans but were betrayed by the British government, which back on its word to support the formation of a new Arab nation after the war in the area that now comprises Israel, Jordan and Syria because Britian wanted to help out France and Jewish Zionists, were guilty of "playing the game" poorly, and essentially deserving of getting tricked by the British. To which the more militant Zionists collectively responded...
:lol2
Besides the obvious Republican hypocrisy, that's a big deal for another reason. If a bill increases the deficit, it needs 60 votes in the Senate. So unless they think 8 Dems are gonna vote for it, it's dead in the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
DirtyB god?
Only if forecasted to increase the deficit after 10 years. That's why Cheney, as VP, was able to cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate on Bush's huge 2003 tax cut bill, which reverted all of the tax rate cuts after 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBBesides the obvious Republican hypocrisy, that's a big deal for another reason. If a bill increases the deficit, it needs 60 votes in the Senate. So unless they think 8 Dems are gonna vote for it, it's dead in the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Verminaard like responded to the FPS' pop up "your thread may be infected"Quote:
Originally Posted by varys
Click here to run a scan
Boom - thread is now trashed. Even the IT king Sonatine...
You guys are idiots.
Trump...."extreme vetting of muslims entering the US will work" also Trump "Extreme vetting of texas gunman wouldnt have made a difference". SMH
https://youtu.be/8VaDQKyvBSs
Meow...
https://youtu.be/bmEw1VUFt_w
Some woke pussy...
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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Next month, the people of Alabama will vote for their new Senator. They will choose between a Democrat and a pedophile. It could go either way.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.0b15b7790f62
We get it....you like black cock...
The fact that a 50 year old "woman" knows who lil yachty is, is quite hilarious
:lol4
High Octane speculation:
Saudi terrorist cells in America committing terrorist acts and leaving white patsys dead at the scene of the crime..............
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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
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Originally Posted by DirtyB
Goddamn it. That took me 20 minutes to put together.
(I guess it still works being an Alabama ballot and all)