I'd be willing to place a little wager.
UFC 200 gets under 1.6m ppv buys, & Conor, Ronda, and GSP cannot be on the card.
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I'd be willing to place a little wager.
UFC 200 gets under 1.6m ppv buys, & Conor, Ronda, and GSP cannot be on the card.
im taking the under on 'will this be the largest ufc ppv ever'.
like a lot.
I will add that a Ronda/Conor presser averages 300k+ viewers on Youtube.....but UFC200 (both Vegas and NY) averaged 30-40k a piece.
a good "interest" metric into the card, IMO
I'm really and truly of the opinion at this point that Conor scuttled UFC 200 because he knew he was nowhere close to solving Nate and is hoping he can get another 2 or 3 wins under his belt before he gets merc'd again.
RIP Jordan Parsons from Bellator who died today after he was the victim involved in a hit and run accident on Saturday.
http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/15...s-dies-hit-run
The amount of loot that Connor misses out on if the nate fight remains scuttled is perhaps ten figures. Win or lose. I find it hard to believe that he ducks Nate to simply avoid that 2nd loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Those 10 figures must include the 2 after the decimal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner
RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyThose 10 figures must include the 2 after the decimal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner
Ten milly
Granted, does he lose some of the aura that he has built over the last 15 mths if he loses to Nate again? Yes. He also does lose some pretty sweet cash, but in terms of actual fights, the only thing he really loses is a chance for the belt at 170.Quote:
Originally Posted by KuntmissionerThe amount of loot that Connor misses out on if the nate fight remains scuttled is perhaps ten figures. Win or lose. I find it hard to believe that he ducks Nate to simply avoid that 2nd loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
When Conor said, "he was his own belt" (in a response to him not fighting for a title after the RDA injury), it was a telling statement because it clued us in, at least I think, that the grift b/t Conor and the UFC (and specifically Dana) has been widening for a long time..... and that this whole thing is over ego ("McGregor Promotions") and revenue sharing (UFC nittiness) and control over promotional commitments and less over fighting Nate (who is obv the favorite b/c of the size and advantage on the ground).
Even if he lost to Nate by KO, I think there will still be demand to see him fight many of the top guys at 155. People want to see him vs Edgar at 145. GSP personally wants the fight because of the PPV numbers and the gate. Ditto with Nick Diaz. And those fights will draw, and sell.....regardless of his performance vs Nate. The love/hate for this motherfucker is unparalleled, and in terms of popularity, he really is up there with Chuck Liddell, Anderson Silva, and Ronda Rousey in terms of committed casuals being interested to watching whenever they fight.
The UFC doesn't have to budge though, because they'll gladly sacrifice $20m-$40m lost from the Conor UFC 200 to keep leverage over any fighter to stamp the message that its promotion first, then talent....and not the other way around like boxing.
Gotta wonder if the UFC would take a different tone with Conor if he had survived Nate.
Absolutely would have.Quote:
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Totally certain that all of these fine ladies will pee clean... rofl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZEOe7xseKc
On that subject. Odds that Cyborgs crotch resembles Chyna's and she has a micro penis herself if for no other reason then the roids she's done in the past (and probably still does)Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
He didn't want to ruin his entire future by fighting without juice. The first fight he wasn't 100% aka juiced imo. That's why he's in Iceland.Quote:
Originally Posted by KuntmissionerThe amount of loot that Connor misses out on if the nate fight remains scuttled is perhaps ten figures. Win or lose. I find it hard to believe that he ducks Nate to simply avoid that 2nd loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
That's why he refused to come to the usa.
That's why he announced his retirement.
That's why USADA put in a wait time clause to prevent athletes from retiring to juice then returning.
That's why he's not retiring. They foresaw athletes doing exactly what Conor was going to do, so LOL.
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/28898712.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaHe didn't want to ruin his entire future by fighting without juice. The first fight he wasn't 100% aka juiced imo. That's why he's in Iceland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner
That's why he refused to come to the usa.
That's why he announced his retirement.
That's why USADA put in a wait time clause to prevent athletes from retiring to juice then returning.
That's why he's not retiring. They foresaw athletes doing exactly what Conor was going to do, so LOL.
Tickets are insanely expensive for the fight
Anyone watching this card? I will likely watch the main only unless something exciting happens.
I am till no ther day lunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
Out a half unit on Gates here
Edwards inside distance +130
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So he gets outboxed in less than 6 minutes by Nate Diaz and decides his next best play is to box the greatest living boxer?
Ok, I guess..
Can't believe that Bigfoot actually gets paid for that shit.
Overeem went all Daniel son with that kick and then threw some vicious bombs after that.
I've read McGreggor gets somewhere is the neighborhood of $5M-$6M per fight between show up bonus, win bonus and PPV bonus over his last few fights.Quote:
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Originally Posted by simpdog
So he gets outboxed in less than 6 minutes by Nate Diaz and decides his next best play is to box the greatest living boxer?
Ok, I guess..
My guess is $$ gets the guy he can easily beat for his 50th. He gets a guy that "everyone" will tune in to see and draw BIG PPV sales.
And what it's all said and done McGreggor could "demand" $20M for the fight and laugh his balls off at UFC all the way to the bank.
Conor's a lock. May has no power what so ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
So he gets outboxed in less than 6 minutes by Nate Diaz and decides his next best play is to box the greatest living boxer?
Ok, I guess..
What does power have to do with getting pointed out 10 to 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaConor's a lock. May has no power what so ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Not just power but the touch of death. I've always felt Conor's place is in boxing. We'll just have to agree to disagree. He'll kick Paq's ass too.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsWhat does power have to do with getting pointed out 10 to 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
That's like the same logic as saying that Cruz would beat Hillary but he can't beat Trump. Conor can't beat Diaz in boxing but will somehow best Mayweather?Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaNot just power but the touch of death. I've always felt Conor's place is in boxing. We'll just have to agree to disagree. He'll kick Paq's ass too.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Horse hockey and poppycock.
Nate Diaz would beat May as well. Nate spars with world class boxers all the time. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm out.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsThat's like the same logic as saying that Cruz would beat Hillary but he can't beat Trump. Conor can't beat Diaz in boxing but will somehow best Mayweather?Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Horse hockey and poppycock.
I mean when you say that Conor has the 'Touch of Death', Mayweather has the 'God of Feints' - which even hypothetically defeats 'Touch of Death' all day.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaNate Diaz would beat May as well. Nate spars with world class boxers all the time. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm out.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaNate Diaz would beat May as well. Nate spars with world class boxers all the time. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm out.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Diaz does spar with Andre Ward. He gets his ass handed to him, but he spars him. And at any time, Andre Ward could fuuuuuuck his entire world up.
If you think either of Diaz or McGreggor are going to go into a boxing ring, and even be mildly competitive with Floyd Mayweather, you're kidding yourself.
You may be right on Andre Ward and Diaz. But on Conor v Mayweather, please cut back on the Mayweather Kool Aid. Conor could even buckle May with body shots if need be. There's zero chance of Conor getting KO'd he could just walk thru Mayweathers shots a unleash devastating blow after devastating blow.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMMLOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Diaz does spar with Andre Ward. He gets his ass handed to him, but he spars him. And at any time, Andre Ward could fuuuuuuck his entire world up.
If you think either of Diaz or McGreggor are going to go into a boxing ring, and even be mildly competitive with Floyd Mayweather, you're kidding yourself.
Omg you guys.. just hope this fight never happens.
I called it on Aldo Mcg, I said the Conor would KO Aldo so early it wouldn't even quench the thirst of the fans or something like that.
I said pre Paq v May that it was guaranteed to be a boring point fight that goes to a decision and I couldn't believe how many people were sucked into the hype.
I called Nate vs Mcg
and I couldn't of been be more wrong on Meisha v Holm, women smh.
Conor without the threat of a TD, wow.
also wearing the heavier gloves and not having the ability to kickQuote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Yeah that could also be an adv. I think Conor would fare better against May in boxing than he would vs say Dom. Cruz in mma stand up.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspokeralso wearing the heavier gloves and not having the ability to kickQuote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Just in case. Do not place any wagers based on my lol ramblings, ty.
I'm burnt on jui juitsu, sick of wrestlers taking down the b52 bombers. I do not look forward to Muslim Beard Khabib's upcoming reign in the UFC.
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Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaConor's a lock. May has no power what so ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Uriah Hall beats the spider, book it now while its hot.
You think an MMA fighter, with no top level pro boxing experience can beat the number 1 boxer in the entire goddamn world, and I need to stop drinking the KoolAid? Tight fucking logic, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaYou may be right on Andre Ward and Diaz. But on Conor v Mayweather, please cut back on the Mayweather Kool Aid. Conor could even buckle May with body shots if need be. There's zero chance of Conor getting KO'd he could just walk thru Mayweathers shots a unleash devastating blow after devastating blow.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMM
Omg you guys.. just hope this fight never happens.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to hit Mayweather to the body? You've got a better chance of landing a clean shot to the head. Canelo is a devastating body puncher, and he couldn't do it. McGregor doesn't hit hard enough to hurt Mayweather, even if he could land something (he can't, btw). Don't even get me started on footwork. You realize the kind of positioning you need to have against a guy faster, smarter, more accurate, with maybe the best defense of any boxer, ever? Mayweather would have that fool falling all over the ring.
I can't believe you're actually trying to make a case for this. If it were as easy as "lol May can't hit, just walk him down" it'd have been done by now. By, you know, one of those 49 professional boxers that he's fought.
Stop making sense, I always swallow the hype hook, line and sinker please let me have my Conor is the GOAT dreamQuote:
Originally Posted by JMMYou think an MMA fighter, with no top level pro boxing experience can beat the number 1 boxer in the entire goddamn world, and I need to stop drinking the KoolAid? Tight fucking logic, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Do you have any idea how hard it is to hit Mayweather to the body? You've got a better chance of landing a clean shot to the head. Canelo is a devastating body puncher, and he couldn't do it. McGregor doesn't hit hard enough to hurt Mayweather, even if he could land something (he can't, btw). Don't even get me started on footwork. You realize the kind of positioning you need to have against a guy faster, smarter, more accurate, with maybe the best defense of any boxer, ever? Mayweather would have that fool falling all over the ring.
I can't believe you're actually trying to make a case for this. If it were as easy as "lol May can't hit, just walk him down" it'd have been done by now. By, you know, one of those 49 professional boxers that he's fought.