ESPN's Britt McHenry seems to act like a bitch to a parking lot attendant -- but was it justified?

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac

If you pull into a let's say a dental office parking lot somewhere after hours and there are signs there that say it is not okay to park there and violators will be towed etc... then I have no problem with them towing your vehicle.

Is it a little scummy, yes, but it is their property and you are parking in a tow zone. Drive around and find a place to park or pay for parking somewhere.

Otherwise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NW48ZbRUpk

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It's more than a little scummy for the owner of the dental office to hide tow trucks who spy on people parking there, and then take a cut of the towing profits.

That's when it transitions from "overly controlling business owner" to "asshole in cahoots with towing companies to tow people for profit".

Just because something is left on your property doesn't give you a right to do with it what you want.

Let's say I park my car at your business after hours, and violate your "parking for customers only" sign.

Do you have the right to take a sledgehammer to my car and destroy it? Can you say, "Well, it was on my property, and you weren't supposed to be here" and get away with it?

Of course not. You can't leave your lot open to the public and then decide you have carte blanche to do what you want with cars that are parked there. Towing is not supposed to be done for punishment or profiteering. It's a last resort when all other methods fail to remove an unauthorized car.

This becomes especially bad when the towing is occurring to line the business owner's pockets, rather than out of concern for his lot being used without his permission.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

Honest question- say I lived next to a stadium. On game day people also park in my driveway, blocking it. I tire of this, and hire a tow truck to park in the alley. The minute someone blocks it, I text the tow truck and they tow it. Under 5 minutes. Is that ok with you?

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In this case, the people blocking your driveway are creating a hazard by preventing you from using it, so yes, I would support you towing them immediately.

If you can't see the difference between this and someone parking for a few minutes in an open-to-the-public lot after hours, I don't know what to tell you.

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There you go twisting again. I've conceded there is a difference in after hours situations. Now you're trying to act like that's your entire argument.

And your wording is ironic. These people are preventing people from using the business' lot.

Let's find common ground Druff. Do you oppose a businesses right to decide who they want on their property, or do you oppose the punishment of towing? Would you support immediate ticketing and fines?

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yup she got that job at ESPN because of her college degrees...

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Originally Posted by thesparten

Even in small parking lots in the Bronx were there are only say 6 spots for a dry cleaners, a laundromat and a news stand just to drop off and pick up you shouldn't be towed instantly. If big dick parks and drops my boxers off but then runs a cross the street to the pizzeria to get me a slice doesn't mean I just lost my car. That's ridiculous. If people abuse it that's one story but if the sign says 5 minutes and it's been 6 and my car is on a tow truck line that predatory. It's like the speed limit keeps on Getting lowered, we all know that's not for safety but to create an atmosphere were more revenue can be collected without actually calling it taxes. (Obamacare v supreme court).. it's criminal. You will find no one more supportive of small business then me on this forum but fair is fair..

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I reiterate that if big dick parks at a pharmacy to pick me up condoms and then run a cross the street to get that lube that doesn't chaff his anus does he deserve to get towed.

DAAAAAAAANG

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

In this case, the people blocking your driveway are creating a hazard by preventing you from using it, so yes, I would support you towing them immediately.

If you can't see the difference between this and someone parking for a few minutes in an open-to-the-public lot after hours, I don't know what to tell you.

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There you go twisting again. I've conceded there is a difference in after hours situations. Now you're trying to act like that's your entire argument.

And your wording is ironic. These people are preventing people from using the business' lot.

Let's find common ground Druff. Do you oppose a businesses right to decide who they want on their property, or do you oppose the punishment of towing? Would you support immediate ticketing and fines?

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I would support immediate ticketing if the business owner could not get a piece of the revenue. And of course, ticketing could not be "immediate" unless the city wanted to post someone there.

However, the city employee ticketing would not be allowed to lie in wait, but rather inform anyone they see parking there to move.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

There you go twisting again. I've conceded there is a difference in after hours situations. Now you're trying to act like that's your entire argument.

And your wording is ironic. These people are preventing people from using the business' lot.

Let's find common ground Druff. Do you oppose a businesses right to decide who they want on their property, or do you oppose the punishment of towing? Would you support immediate ticketing and fines?

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I would support immediate ticketing if the business owner could not get a piece of the revenue. And of course, ticketing could not be "immediate" unless the city wanted to post someone there.

However, the city employee ticketing would not be allowed to lie in wait, but rather inform anyone they see parking there to move.

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So you actually don't disagree that the parking is wrong? You just think the punishment is too harsh?

I disagree the property owner shouldn't get a cut. If I pay $200k for a parking lot in a busy area, people keep parking there blocking my business, why do I care if the city profits off of that? They didn't buy the damn land!

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I would support immediate ticketing if the business owner could not get a piece of the revenue. And of course, ticketing could not be "immediate" unless the city wanted to post someone there.

However, the city employee ticketing would not be allowed to lie in wait, but rather inform anyone they see parking there to move.

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So you actually don't disagree that the parking is wrong? You just think the punishment is too harsh?

I disagree the property owner shouldn't get a cut. If I pay $200k for a parking lot in a busy area, people keep parking there blocking my business, why do I care if the city profits off of that? They didn't buy the damn land!

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You don't get a cut because this provides the incentive for predatory behavior and bogus/semi-bogus reporting of "violations".

If you are actually the "victim" of unauthorized parkers, you should be thrilled that the city is taking action and taking meausres to stop it. You don't get paid for it on top of that. Private citizens never get a piece of government-levied fines, except in the case of rewards for serious crimes (murder, kidnapping, etc) and tax evasion (where the requirements to get rewarded are very strict, and you can't just submit guesses to the IRS when reporting someone).

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

So you actually don't disagree that the parking is wrong? You just think the punishment is too harsh?

I disagree the property owner shouldn't get a cut. If I pay $200k for a parking lot in a busy area, people keep parking there blocking my business, why do I care if the city profits off of that? They didn't buy the damn land!

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You don't get a cut because this provides the incentive for predatory behavior and bogus/semi-bogus reporting of "violations".

If you are actually the "victim" of unauthorized parkers, you should be thrilled that the city is taking action and taking meausres to stop it. You don't get paid for it on top of that. Private citizens never get a piece of government-levied fines, except in the case of rewards for serious crimes (murder, kidnapping, etc) and tax evasion (where the requirements to get rewarded are very strict, and you can't just submit guesses to the IRS when reporting someone).

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In private lots, the lot owner is free to levy parking citations. Enforcement is typically the issue. Lots combat this usually by booting, then refusing to remove the boot until payment is recieved.
One particular business that I'm aware if that fines parking violators is apartment buildings. They can enforce parking rules in their lots, and tenants can face eviction if they don't pay tickets.

I've also heard of cases where a car is blocked in causing the person to miss work or something, you can definitely win a civil judgement

searles you fat idiot were gonna need you to calm down

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searles you fat idiot were gonna need you to calm down

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When your rep is negative, significantly lower than mine, you might be a fuckkng retarded inbred faggot. It means you never post anything worth a damn

And you owe me sushi you welching bitch

listen you fat animal theres not a way to get you 16 dollars worth of sushi where it doesnt involve us crossing paths

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searles you fat idiot were gonna need you to calm down

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When your rep is negative, significantly lower than mine, you might be a fuckkng retarded inbred faggot. It means you never post anything worth a damn

And you owe me sushi you welching bitch

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lol, what?

http://nypost.com/2015/04/17/espn-wa...britt-mchenry/

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Yelper Mary El P. said in January she paid with a credit card, was told it didn’t work, then presented another credit card. When the statement came, she claims she was billed twice. She says she called up an employee, who was rude and insulting and informed her that disputing a charge on a credit card was a felony.

Yelper Eric T. alleges that a tow trucker apparently spying on him zipped around the corner while he was letting his dog out to pee — and that when he protested, the Advanced Towing driver yelled out, “Don’t park here you fucking idiotict.”

In early April, a man who ducked into an Arlington CVS for medicine for his sick child says he came back to find his car being jacked up by an Advanced Towing truck — with his two kids inside.

Said Yelper KJ B., “Towing serves a purpose, but this company just steals cars! The first time I was towed was from my very own parking spot at my apartment complex. They claimed they didn’t see my parking sticker (despite its obvious placement on the back where it is on EVERY CAR.)”

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There are tons of other complaints, both about incorrect/predatory tows and general rude/insulting behavior by employees.

The last complaint (about the company towing a LEGALLY parked car from an apartment complex) is very common regarding companies like this, and these occur because shady managers at apartment complexes enter into kickback agreements with tow companies, who then patrol the private lots looking for flimsy "violations", including ones that don't exist. As I mentioned before, I had a friend towed from his LEGAL spot in his own complex simply because his tags were a few days expired. (It was towed via twisting "abandoned vehicle" laws, giving complexes the right to tow non-operative vehicles from their lots.)

Basically, the company knows that they are doing something shady, and that people will show up being angry, so they are already on the offensive and insult YOU if you argue with them.

The woman Britt insulted obviously knows what type of company she works for, and what they do to make their money. She is happy to work for this company and make a living from what they do. She did not deserve to be treated respectfully. When you knowingly work for a company and assist them in doing bad things, you deserve to be treated badly.

And given both the editing of the video and the company's history of being insulting to people arguing with them, I think there's a high chance that this "innocent single mom" was giving it as much as she was getting it.

If Juan Sepulveda was running a BAP on a new site, and he hired some guy to collect the money for him, would you be insulting the guy if he knew of Juan's history here but was fine taking a paycheck to help scam people? Of course you would insult him. This isn't much different.

http://deadspin.com/deadcast-is-brit...ain-1699510048

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Given the fact that the Problem Internet can find a way to turn virtually any piece of news into a low-grade Kenyon College term paper, I found myself surprised this week that there was no hot taker out there willing to defend ESPN reporter and Sweet Valley High character Britt McHenry. I figured Slate would immediately throw down a “What we talk about when we talk about Britt McHenry” screed, but no. Nothing. Everyone seems to be in perfect agreement that Britt McHenry sucks

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This is your time to shine, Druff. Get one of these clickbait factories on the horn and serve up some sizzling hot takes.

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http://deadspin.com/deadcast-is-brit...ain-1699510048

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Given the fact that the Problem Internet can find a way to turn virtually any piece of news into a low-grade Kenyon College term paper, I found myself surprised this week that there was no hot taker out there willing to defend ESPN reporter and Sweet Valley High character Britt McHenry. I figured Slate would immediately throw down a “What we talk about when we talk about Britt McHenry” screed, but no. Nothing. Everyone seems to be in perfect agreement that Britt McHenry sucks

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This is your time to shine, Druff. Get one of these clickbait factories on the horn and serve up some sizzling hot takes.

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He does didnt look very far. Was a front page editorial on CNN two days ago defending her.

There's a reason those tow company clerks are usually behind bullet proof glass. I didn't doubt it was a predatory tow company, but you're still going to get killed on video when you're a beautiful woman making fun of a presumably normal gal. Thats just how it works. That she had a point or possibly baited should be relevant, but it isn't.

When you hit the genetic lottery people expect you to fade that type of shit and be above it because life has been so very kind to you. You have to get that when your her. People are jealous, and when you get that nasty, you're just handing it to them.

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There's a reason those tow company clerks are usually behind bullet proof glass. I didn't doubt it was a predatory tow company, but you're still going to get killed on video when you're a beautiful woman making fun of a presumably normal gal. Thats just how it works. That she had a point or possibly baited should be relevant, but it isn't.

When you hit the genetic lottery people expect you to fade that type of shit and be above it because life has been so very kind to you. You have to get that when your her. People are jealous, and when you get that nasty, you're just handing it to them.

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Get as nasty as you want. Nobody will care. It's when you delve into bottomset territorry with the "Look at me, I'm so educated and wealthy and I'm in the news business, honey. I'm kind of a big deal" talk that everyone will rightfully despise you.

To me it was the looks stuff more than the position thing. kind of the same in this case, but if you look at how crucified anyone who is perceived as fat shaming someone is, this is that on steroids coming from her. Even the im on TV thing is kind of I'm so hot thing. She could have called her a fucking thief and a hundred other things without issue. She could have punched the actual tow person and the public wouldnt have cared.

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Originally Posted by BCR

but if you look at how crucified anyone who is perceived as fat shaming

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Sorry, what? Are there notable examples of this? The only people I ever see holding pitchforks for #fatshaming are insulated Tumblrina pangender catkin hambeasts.

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but if you look at how crucified anyone who is perceived as fat shaming

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Sorry, what? Are there notable examples of this? The only people I ever see holding pitchforks for #fatshaming are insulated Tumblrina pangender catkin hambeasts.

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does sarah play poker

that's too bad. i had a nice proposition for you guys

Gross pooh, gross.

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but if you look at how crucified anyone who is perceived as fat shaming

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Sorry, what? Are there notable examples of this? The only people I ever see holding pitchforks for #fatshaming are insulated Tumblrina pangender catkin hambeasts.

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Didnt Chris Wallace of Fox have to come out last week and apologize to Kelly Clarkson for saying lay off the deep dish? Feels like I hear about some celebrity being fat shamed every week and someone has to apologize. I was a big fan of waif models and heroin chic, so I think my tastes are similar to yours judging from your Swift love, but the fat girl lobby seems super strong and to be feared.

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that's too bad. i had a nice proposition for you guys

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What the 50 shades of Pooh are you talking about?

How much are we talkin' here?

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Tell me about my "life" already, you fuck.

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Tell me about my "life" already, you fuck.

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What does this mean?

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Tell me about my "life" already, you fuck.

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What does this mean?

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that you are a fuck. Good day.

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What does this mean?

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that you are a fuck. Good day.

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This is probably true, but I still feel like I'm missing something.

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that you are a fuck. Good day.

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This is probably true, but I still feel like I'm missing something.

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It's not you it's me. Good day.

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This is probably true, but I still feel like I'm missing something.

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It's not you it's me. Good day.

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Its always a what's the frequency Kenneth situation with you? I really feel like i should understand what you mean, but its just beyond my present perception.

I,dont recall you being a late night im sender, but ftr for anyone reading, if you im'd me, i havent fired up a desktop in probably 3 or 4 months with my back being jacked and im solely on phone or ipad with no im option, so Im not ignoring. Had a few people pm me as to why i ignore their ims

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It's not you it's me. Good day.

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Its always a what's the frequency Kenneth situation with you? I really feel like i should understand what you mean, but its just beyond my present perception.

I,dont recall you being a late night im sender, but ftr for anyone reading, if you im'd me, i havent fired up a desktop in probably 3 or 4 months with my back being jacked and im solely on phone or ipad with no im option, so Im not ignoring. Had a few people pm me as to why i ignore their ims

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GOD you are good.

And yeah I haven't logged into this in ages from a computer either. no I haven't messaged you.

God day.

Now defending this cunt makes sense, you look down at people the same way.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Typical Giants fan arrogance....

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Arrogannce-an insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogance

How many posts have you started w/
"LOL at the small business owner", how many small business' have you ran?
The Pizza owner should do this, really? how many pizza joints have you owned?
The Deli lady should have given me a free lunch to make up for a missing $ 4 fry order that "ruined" all of their lunches, really? how many Deli's have you managed?
The guy should be happy getting a $ 3 tip from Drew Brees, really when have you had a job that depended on tips?
The massage lady should still give me the full massage even though I showed up 10 minutes later than we agreed, really? how many jobs have you had w/appointments? if one goes late the whole day is F'ed. Pompous.....you show up late and try to get her in trouble,

All because you think, your opinion, on every single subject, is a fact. .....in other words, arrogance

I'd love it if one of those MFer's told you, that you should be happy when a shitty player sucks out on you.
Maybe in theory they are even correct, but don't tell me you are happy when that happens, or that you want to hear something like that when it does (especially from someone who has 0 experience in your shoes.)

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Now defending this cunt makes sense, you look down at people the same way.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Typical Giants fan arrogance....

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Arrogannce-an insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogance

How many posts have you started w/
"LOL at the small business owner", how many small business' have you ran?
The Pizza owner should do this, really? how many pizza joints have you owned?
The Deli lady should have given me a free lunch to make up for a missing $ 4 fry order that "ruined" all of their lunches, really? how many Deli's have you managed?
The guy should be happy getting a $ 3 tip from Drew Brees, really when have you had a job that depended on tips?
The massage lady should still give me the full massage even though I showed up 10 minutes later than we agreed, really? how many jobs have you had w/appointments? if one goes late the whole day is F'ed. Pompous.....you show up late and try to get her in trouble,

All because you think, your opinion, on every single subject, is a fact. .....in other words, arrogance

I'd love it if one of those MFer's told you, that you should be happy when a shitty player sucks out on you.
Maybe in theory they are even correct, but don't tell me you are happy when that happens, or that you want to hear something like that when it does (especially from someone who has 0 experience in your shoes.)

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Weird bump at this point with nothing new to add to the story. Maybe you're in a bad mood because the Giants got pounded today. I'll answer you anyway.

I'm not going to bother going into the various examples you supposedly quoted of me, because several of them are twisted into modified versions of the actual story or putting words in my mouth that I never said.

I don't think all of my opinions are facts, but I do sometimes have strong feelings about certain issues to where I feel a certain way.

I don't need to have run a pizzeria to know how customers should be treated. I don't need to have experience as a massage therapist to know that you don't short a customer substantial time because you booked everyone too tightly together. I don't need to own a towing company to know that predatory towing scams exist, and that many states (including the one we live in) have taken measures to stop them.

I also don't have to be a gardener to know that my grass should be green, or a weatherman to know I won't need a jacket outdoors in Vegas in July.

There are certain things which can be deduced through common sense by a rational human being.

So in this situation...

- The towing company in question is well known for engaging in predatory towing scams, to the point where they accidentally towed a car with two children inside because their dad walked across the street to an ATM to get money.

- The towing company is also known for abusive behavior toward those who are unhappy about being towed in these highly questionable or downright shady situations.

- The video of Britt McHenry was heavily edited, so as to prevent us from seeing what the towing company employee was saying to bring on these angry/bitchy reactions from Britt. Hmmm... a towing company known for abusive employees releasing a video of a "nasty" customer where we can't see what the employee was saying... No, nothing suspicious about that at all!

- The towing company attempted to shop this video around to various media outlets for money, before finally releasing it when nobody would pay them.

- The entire business model utilized by this towing company is ILLEGAL in most states, including Cailfornia.


But yeah, let's pile on the mean, nasty celebrity because she's famous and pretty while the "victim" employee at the towing company is fat and unattractive. Doesn't matter if the celebrity was a likely victim of a predatory towing scam, or that the company in question has a long, documented history of verbally abusing people. The media says that this is a story of a pretty girl talking down to an ugly one, so we need to believe the media and take the poor woman's side who just wants to support her kids, and totally isn't working for a scam company and verbally abusing people. I'm sure that poor woman is a salt-of-the-earth sweetheart who deserves our sympathy.

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As you can tell from the general theme and mission statement of this site, I have little tolerance for scammers, angle-shooters, and cheaters.

I think they deserve any abuse that gets heaped upon them for their actions.

I think that their willing and knowing accomplices also deserve abuse and scorn.

This really isn't much different.

Advanced Towing is a scummy company which abuses towing laws in Virginia which have not been properly updated yet to prevent their predatory scams. They are not providing a legitimate service to the public. They victimize people in predatory fashion, and then verbally abuse them when they attempt to complain.

Most states have laws specifically against what Advanced Towing does to make money. They are scumbags and a drain on society, and anyone working there knows exactly what they are and what they're doing. If you work for bad people and assist them doing bad things, you deserve to be treated badly.

Even their own webpage says:

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Individuals, private property owners, and businesses who require towing services, not owners of vehicles towed from private property are our customers.

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In other words, we're going to victimize other people, and both our company and yours will get rich from our actions.

F them.

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Even their own webpage says:

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You mean to tell me that a company that contracts to remove cars from private property after entering into an agreement with the property owner has the balls to put it on their website. Next thing you know, a lawyer that only litigates divorce cases for wives will put in their mission statement that they are not there to serve the soon to be ex husband's legal interest. It's appalling and most likely racially motivated imo.

This broads rant doesn't surprise me, and shouldn't surprise anyone. I have been around some 'famous' people and honestly, many of them are mean as fuck. Just really smart, and know what they are supposed to do/say etc. when in public...

This dopey broad, let the dopey get the best of her and is going to go down for this now as it should be. She is obviously an ornery mean dopey broad. My point is just that when you get this 'educated' wealthy at a relatively young age they obviously think most of us are beneath them. This should not come as much of a surprise.

Even if they act nice to your face, they still think they are better than you because in their eyes they are 'more successful' and have a 'better job' (lol).

This dopey broad is just a microcosm of largely the entire 'successful' and 'wealthy' American world we live in!

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Five years later, the Virginia Attorney General has filed suit against the towing company in question, for the exact conduct I criticized when this thread was created.

https://www.arlnow.com/2020/06/25/br...vanced-towing/

But I'm sure jsearles was actually the correct one here, because he took a community college course on the law.

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Five years later, the Virginia Attorney General has filed suit against the towing company in question, for the exact conduct I criticized when this thread was created.

But I'm sure jsearles was actually the correct one here, because he took a community college course on the law.

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this was real close to jsearles' heart, he protects parking lots at all costs, puts his life on the line