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make this clown pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyde
So, how did you get his email set up if he never sent you the username? or, did you have it all along?
Who is George and what is his role in this?
It's all been just a big misunderstanding.
If you really read everything Marty initially claims he doesn't have the password. When it's pointed out he does, he switches and says he doesn't have the username. Eventually GoDaddy gave him the username. So in reality this guy never gave Marty any more info yet Marty somehow eventually got the job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1marley1
Maybe if you process all that, some might understand why this guy is pissy?
Even if your claims are true. What sane person just doesn't reforward the email that contains the information instead of digging in their heals like a giant dickhead?Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22If you really read everything Marty initially claims he doesn't have the password. When it's pointed out he does, he switches and says he doesn't have the username. Eventually GoDaddy gave him the username. So in reality this guy never gave Marty any more info yet Marty somehow eventually got the job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1marley1
Maybe if you process all that, some might understand why this guy is pissy?
More than likely the guy uses the same password for everything and Tyde harassed GoDaddy support long enough till they gave him the username and he used the password from the other services.
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Originally Posted by Tyde
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Originally Posted by Bob
A kickass incomplete website that he LOVED huh? Seems legitQuote:
Originally Posted by Tyde
The only answer I can give you is a person likely lashes out in this manner when they are simply fed up. We've all dealt with the Good Dr for over a decade on these forums. Is it really that hard to believe that his guy maybe got pushed over the edge by some of Marty's antics?Quote:
Originally Posted by abrown83Even if your claims are true. What sane person just doesn't reforward the email that contains the information instead of digging in their heals like a giant dickhead?Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
More than likely the guy uses the same password for everything and Tyde harassed GoDaddy support long enough till they gave him the username and he used the password from the other services.
As Druff stated earlier, there is obviously two sides to every story. There seems to be a ton of holes in Marty's story to me. Me pointing that out doesnt necessarily mean I think Bob is an angel or handled everything correctly though.
There is talk that Marty had yet to deliver the emails for the original "mechanics" website even though he had the login information for that for over a month. Marty never posted proof that he refuted those claims. And LOL at some of the BS filtered throughout. Marty has literally no friends in life let alone "equity partners" but he thinks he scored some points by saying he read the emails to these ghosts and they were appalled?!?!?! LMFAO. Another example- Marty stated the website was kickass, cutting edge, etc and just sitting there waiting for the passwords. After Marty had full access he claimed he would get it done within 36 hours, after already saying it was ready to go. The "final product" was admittedly incomplete and only one page. Sounds like to me Marty just threw something together real quick last minute.
You just don't fundamentally understand how Wordperss works. You create page templates, page templates can be done but if you have no content the site is empty until you create the pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22The only answer I can give you is a person likely lashes out in this manner when they are simply fed up. We've all dealt with the Good Dr for over a decade on these forums. Is it really that hard to believe that his guy maybe got pushed over the edge by some of Marty's antics?Quote:
Originally Posted by abrown83
As Druff stated earlier, there is obviously two sides to every story. There seems to be a ton of holes in Marty's story to me. Me pointing that out doesnt necessarily mean I think Bob is an angel or handled everything correctly though.
There is talk that Marty had yet to deliver the emails for the original "mechanics" website even though he had the login information for that for over a month. Marty never posted proof that he refuted those claims. And LOL at some of the BS filtered throughout. Marty has literally no friends in life let alone "equity partners" but he thinks he scored some points by saying he read the emails to these ghosts and they were appalled?!?!?! LMFAO. Another example- Marty stated the website was kickass, cutting edge, etc and just sitting there waiting for the passwords. After Marty had full access he claimed he would get it done within 36 hours, after already saying it was ready to go. The "final product" was admittedly incomplete and only one page. Sounds like to me Marty just threw something together real quick last minute.
I have shipped websites before in similar fashion because I have literally done everything but have no content and client is dragging their feet. Once they add content the site would appear done.
Is it possible that Marty threw together a content bare site at the last minute after claiming it was ready to go? If this site, content or no, was already sitting on his server ready to go should it take 36 hours to complete once Marty got the login information?Quote:
Originally Posted by abrown83You just don't fundamentally understand how Wordperss works. You create page templates, page templates can be done but if you have no content the site is empty until you create the pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
I have shipped websites before in similar fashion because I have literally done everything but have no content and client is dragging their feet. Once they add content the site would appear done.
Do you care to address anything else I mentioned?
Yes it is possible, but more likely it was done needing content to fill out and launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22Is it possible that Marty threw together a content bare site at the last minute after claiming it was ready to go? If this site, content or no, was already sitting on his server ready to go should it take 36 hours to complete once Marty got the login information?Quote:
Originally Posted by abrown83
Do you care to address anything else I mentioned?
Here is what I think at a high level, we all see Tyde's personal side and his antics. I think in general he probably acts more professional in his business dealings as it is his livelihood. We are applying how we view his personal life to his professional life and I think that isn't fair.
There are lots of things people say and do in their personal lives that they would never say or do in their professional life.
I think if I was in Bob's shoes and never knew Marty before, based solely on what Ive seen ITT, I could be fed up with the guy. It is super annoying and unprofessional to call someone, they dont answer, and you immediately call them again. There seems to be an initial site (mechanics site) that Marty never delivered emails for. Furthermore Bob never gave Marty anything else and he got the job done which would lead me to believe he COULD HAVE gotten the job done earlier, whether Bob was really super helpful or not. Marty eventually got it done so its pretty easy to surmise he could have and should have got it done earlier. And lastly, I personally and especially professionally am very put off by grandiose expressions and claims. As Bob, if I get an email telling me you have developed a "cutting edge" site and then Im delivered a piece of dog shit, Im going to be pissed. It doesnt matter if I havent provided content, you told me the website is fucking amazing when its not.Quote:
Originally Posted by abrown83Yes it is possible, but more likely it was done needing content to fill out and launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
Here is what I think at a high level, we all see Tyde's personal side and his antics. I think in general he probably acts more professional in his business dealings as it is his livelihood. We are applying how we view his personal life to his professional life and I think that isn't fair.
There are lots of things people say and do in their personal lives that they would never say or do in their professional life.
Why won't marty answer my question?Quote:
Originally Posted by abrown83Yes it is possible, but more likely it was done needing content to fill out and launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
Here is what I think at a high level, we all see Tyde's personal side and his antics. I think in general he probably acts more professional in his business dealings as it is his livelihood. We are applying how we view his personal life to his professional life and I think that isn't fair.
There are lots of things people say and do in their personal lives that they would never say or do in their professional life.
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Originally Posted by jsearles22I think if I was in Bob's shoes and never knew Marty before, based solely on what Ive seen ITT, I could be fed up with the guy. It is super annoying and unprofessional to call someone, they dont answer, and you immediately call them again. There seems to be an initial site (mechanics site) that Marty never delivered emails for. Furthermore Bob never gave Marty anything else and he got the job done which would lead me to believe he COULD HAVE gotten the job done earlier, whether Bob was really super helpful or not. Marty eventually got it done so its pretty easy to surmise he could have and should have got it done earlier. And lastly, I personally and especially professionally am very put off by grandiose expressions and claims. As Bob, if I get an email telling me you have developed a "cutting edge" site and then Im delivered a piece of dog shit, Im going to be pissed. It doesnt matter if I havent provided content, you told me the website is fucking amazing when its not.Quote:
Originally Posted by abrown83
no offense, but holy shit man...
you are literally retarded
shut it down
Tell us more about the cutting edge Wordpress website that Bob lovedQuote:
Originally Posted by TydeQuote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
no offense, but holy shit man...
you are literally retarded
shut it down
Tyde was definitely wronged here, IF what he said is correct - what I mean by "IF" is if Tyde left out other screen shots that benefited Bob. Unless Bob responds either by radio or forum, Tyde gets the benefit of the doubt. What I read in this thread, Tyde went way out of his way to be reasonable and Bob was trying to get something for free.
I don't care who was right or wrong, really, all I want is a good thread, and this one delivers. With that said, Pickering is clearly a villain no matter how you slice it. Now, I don't know this man, but he gives off the vibe of a dude who hits women occasionally, but threatens them constantly. Type of guy who hates Chris Brown because he's black, not because he beats chicks.
I have received an explanation in e-mail from Robert.
I won't post it here yet, as he may not want me to, and I don't want to post people's private e-mail unless there is a compelling reason to do so.
I asked him if it was okay if I post the e-mail, and I'll go from there depending upon what his response is.
The cliffs notes from his email are that:
- Marty took too long to design the site
- He was mad at Marty for calling him repeatedly
- He thought Marty designed a failsite for him
He did not address the whole Godaddy password thing.
#1 and #3 are subjective. #2:He was mad at Marty for calling him repeatedly is a bullshit excuse. I am quite sure if he asked Tyde to call him at a specific time, he would have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
My guess is he simply did not like the site work, which is why you do not pay the rest of the work going forward. The honorable thing for Bob to do, is to pay Tyde for the work done, and cut losses. A Charge back is a HUGE douche move, but he is probably broke so he had no choice.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
What about the voicemail?
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Originally Posted by 4DragonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
What about the voicemail?
Seems to me this whole thing stems from a password issue. And marty tried to fix this and Pickering snapped and used this as a way to cheap out.
Then he starts issuing threats claiming to know the Torres brothers ( cartel members???) and someone named Stacy.
I saw the site. It was A+ and have been following this since Robert Pickering started unloading with these threats. It was SUPER CLEAR this guy just wanted to screw Tyde over.
I may have touched on this earlier in the thread...
but I have dealt with more than my fair share of problematic/difficult customers over the years
just not to the level where it turns personal and have been threatened
Robert has the right to cancel services and back charge me if he wasn't satisfied for whatever reason...I accept that
But escalating it (literally overnight) to the level he did...well that's totally unacceptable.
I almost didn't post this story because it made better sense to just try to put it behind me, take the hit...and move on
Then I listened to his voicemail a few more times, and decided just to unload the entire exchange.
I can take a lot of abuse, and consider myself to be fairly thick skinned when it comes to dealing with knobs like Robert...
but in this particular case, he pushed me past my tipping point.
I just don't respond very well to threats
not to mention, you're doing a huge services to his future possible clients / business partners.
Based on what i've read this Robert Pickering seems like a huge loser with unrealistic expectations. He messed with the wrong guy.
I don't understand why he was hesitant to give the godaddy info to Tyde, it would have prevented this entire debacle.
Also LOL at him acting like he has all these connections in immigration, he's delusional.
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Originally Posted by Stueyivey
When this all went down a few weeks ago, I told my neighbor Steve about it, and played the voicemail for him
His girlfriend is Mexican, and when he relayed my story to her about how Fuckering was threatening to go to immigration and report me for being here illegally, she literally started cracking up, and told him that they would laugh him out of the building.
I also love the email he sent me with the pic from his dashboard heading south on I-5 saying he is 'heading to immigration'
what a complete knob
for the record, I do have my visa, and have no issues living and working in Mexico legally
keep swinging for the fences champ
http://loanguide.com/files/2015/05/S...-a-miss-02.jpg
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I'm guessing the entire website.....
was typed and spaced out
like this.
Bob was like "wtf chargeback."
Then....
this thread happens,
and we await the response.
Marty you still haven't answered my question. Why the four days to respond to email?
not sure which email you meanQuote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
but honestly, after I heard his voicemail and started reading some of the threats in his emails, I was absolutely furious, and trying not to lash out with guns blazing.
the screen shots I posted are pretty much in chronological order
to answer your question, I probably didn't reply for 4 days because I had never encountered a neanderthal like this before, and it took me a few days to process the scenario and not react impulsively
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Why is he going back door to Todd on this? How hard is it to register an account on a forum and make a few posts? He is hiding IMO
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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Happy New Year to
Robert Pickering
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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
When you have multiple investments like Mr. Pickering, you realize that time is money, and rather than focus on bad investments, you cut your losses and move on and hopefully you don't get suckered again.
Precisely. What does he have to gain by responding? It's pretty easy to surmise by reading this thread that Marty is a member here and the forum backs him. What can be gained by jumping out in front of an angry pitchfork wielding mob? It's silly and pretty stupid to assume an unknown would register and post. You guys are surely smarter than thatQuote:
Originally Posted by OSAQuote:
Originally Posted by Belly Buster
When you have multiple investments like Mr. Pickering, you realize that time is money, and rather than focus on bad investments, you cut your losses and move on and hopefully you don't get suckered again.
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Originally Posted by jsearles22Precisely. What does he have to gain by responding? It's pretty easy to surmise by reading this thread that Marty is a member here and the forum backs him. What can be gained by jumping out in front of an angry pitchfork wielding mob? It's silly and pretty stupid to assume an unknown would register and post. You guys are surely smarter than thatQuote:
Originally Posted by OSA
I'm not a rocket scientist or anything but he may be referring to the 4 day gap between the very first email you posted where he simply asks about his emails, fairly politely I might add, & the very next email screenshot of your response where there is a 4 day gap in the timestamp at the top. I realize this may have been very difficult to surmise with what little information Pooh had given you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tydenot sure which email you meanQuote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
but honestly, after I heard his voicemail and started reading some of the threats in his emails, I was absolutely furious, and trying not to lash out with guns blazing.
the screen shots I posted are pretty much in chronological order
to answer your question, I probably didn't reply for 4 days because I had never encountered a neanderthal like this before, and it took me a few days to process the scenario and not react impulsively