PLOL did it Williestyle. HeQuote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
youQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
:knife 'd
jeannie in the back after she did you a favor
how could you?
:stole
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PLOL did it Williestyle. HeQuote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLyouQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
:knife 'd
jeannie in the back after she did you a favor
how could you?
:stole
Someone remind me... what did Jeannie do for him?
got him into the pokerstars vip partyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Yeah, considering that he probably should have kept quiet about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLgot him into the pokerstars vip partyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Jeannie is a very nice woman, I don't want to see her looking bad.
I likely would've got in anyway, but it's true that Jeannie helped me out and overall was very nice. The only negative reaction that I really took to heart from all this was Jeanne's. I legitimately felt bad when I read what she wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLgot him into the pokerstars vip partyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Where did Jeannie write something? On 2+2?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLOLI likely would've got in anyway, but it's true that Jeannie helped me out and overall was very nice. The only negative reaction that I really took to heart from all this was Jeanne's. I legitimately felt bad when I read what she wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
which is why you owe her an apology for making this reflect negatively on herQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOLI likely would've got in anyway, but it's true that Jeannie helped me out and overall was very nice. The only negative reaction that I really took to heart from all this was Jeanne's. I legitimately felt bad when I read what she wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
all the good stuff is on twitter broQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffWhere did Jeannie write something? On 2+2?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
The situation has nothing to do with her. But I can see how she would be offended. I won't offer an apology for stealing from Stars, because it wouldn't be a sincere apology. If I actually felt bad about it, I would return the money. I can make an apology for making a thread about it, but that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLwhich is why you owe her an apology for making this reflect negatively on herQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
She called me a scammer/amoral on twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Originally Posted by PLOLThe situation has nothing to do with her. But I can see how she would be offended. I won't offer an apology for stealing from Stars, because it wouldn't be a sincere apology. If I actually felt bad about it, I would return the money. I can make an apology for making a thread about it, but that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
She called me a scammer/amoral on twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Alright Druff, from his own post Plol considers it stolen money. Now what do you say about using stolen money in your freeroll?
Doesn't matter to me what he calls it. I see it as stealing from a site that has stolen from him and other US players, so I don't see a big deal, especially since it occurred from an error on their part, rather than an active attempt to roll them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward TeachQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOLThe situation has nothing to do with her. But I can see how she would be offended. I won't offer an apology for stealing from Stars, because it wouldn't be a sincere apology. If I actually felt bad about it, I would return the money. I can make an apology for making a thread about it, but that's about it.
She called me a scammer/amoral on twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Alright Druff, from his own post Plol considers it stolen money. Now what do you say about using stolen money in your freeroll?
I do agree he owes Jeannie an apology for posting and bragging about it, though.
This most definitely. Thats a slap in the face to a friendly person who tried doing something nice for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffDoesn't matter to me what he calls it. I see it as stealing from a site that has stolen from him and other US players, so I don't see a big deal, especially since it occurred from an error on their part, rather than an active attempt to roll them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward TeachQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
Alright Druff, from his own post Plol considers it stolen money. Now what do you say about using stolen money in your freeroll?
I do agree he owes Jeannie an apology for posting and bragging about it, though.
POKERATI DAN = DO NOT WANT
BACK TO DONKDOWN ASAP PLEASE
NEVER HEARD A MORE BORING PERSON IN MY LIFE
Druff, you have to understand. I don't steal, ever. Period point blank. There's a little something called integrity involved. If I've been taken advantage of then that their problem, not mine. I've got a clean slate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffSo let me get this straight...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
Put yourself in PLOL's shoes.
You just came home from the PCA, where you played in a $1025 tournament that was bungled so badly that most people who played had an almost zero chance of cashing. You brought it to Stars' attention via 2+2, and after Lee Jones promised an investigation and subsequent action, the ultimate solution is to screw the rightful winners out of thousands of dollars each.
Then you think back and recall that Pokerstars stole as much as $24.99 from every US player (yourself included) through their obnoxious cashout policy of FPPs after black Friday.
Then you turn on your computer and see that they accidentally put an extra $1100 in your account, that you can easily cash out with no legal consequence.
Do you SERIOUSLY e-mail Stars and tell them to take their $1100 back? Even after all of the above?
If so, I'm sure you've been taken advantage of by many people in your life.
Pokerstars ALWAYS looks out for its own interests.
You need to look out for yours, not theirs.
If you are a really, super-duper nice guy, you take the $1100 and give it back to the Stars players who were collectively cheated out of their FPPs.
But you definitely don't give it back to the company that stole so much US money in the first place (including yours).
So its ok to steal but not ok to publicly brag about it? Way to keep it classy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffDoesn't matter to me what he calls it. I see it as stealing from a site that has stolen from him and other US players, so I don't see a big deal, especially since it occurred from an error on their part, rather than an active attempt to roll them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward TeachQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
Alright Druff, from his own post Plol considers it stolen money. Now what do you say about using stolen money in your freeroll?
I do agree he owes Jeannie an apology for posting and bragging about it, though.
in plol's situation it would be very easy to rationalize the cashoutQuote:
Originally Posted by PoohSo its ok to steal but not ok to publicly brag about it? Way to keep it classy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffDoesn't matter to me what he calls it. I see it as stealing from a site that has stolen from him and other US players, so I don't see a big deal, especially since it occurred from an error on their part, rather than an active attempt to roll them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward Teach
I do agree he owes Jeannie an apology for posting and bragging about it, though.
they made a mistake that cost him ev in the zoom tourney, and then, they again made a mistake but this time it benefited plol
a great majority of us would have no problem calling that a wash
the problem was he posted it here with the intentions of sharing the story with a small group of people but this isn't a private chat room
whether plol could have gotten into the pokerstars party or not, he asked jeannie to get him in and she hooked him up because she's not only a nice person, but a good ambassador for pokerstars
This morning I was contacted privately by PokerStars. At this time I am contemplating my options.
Don't take more than a few minutes. Kiss that cash goodbye, it was never yours to begin with and ain't worth keepin.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
Now's your chance to do the right thing, PLOL.
If you weren't going to do it on your own, then maybe a little nudge from Pokerstars will help.
You REALLY don't think it's wrong to withdraw money that you know is not yours into your bank account?
If a phone company left an erroneous credit on my phone bill, would it be the right thing to keep quiet about it and not say anything? Probably not, but I would do it anyway and so would most people. In any event, I offered a deal to PokerStars that involved me giving money back, but only if a large portion of the refunded money goes directly to a charity of their choosing. I am currently waiting on a response from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandwich