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cool story broQuote:
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He's getting desperateQuote:
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Originally Posted by SPIT thisHe's getting desperateQuote:
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he's doing what team retard have been doing their entire lives; embracing convenient lies over unpleasant truths.
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it helped him win an election before so it might be good politics
that's your party.Quote:
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he's doing what team retard have been doing their entire lives; embracing convenient lies over unpleasant truths.
Trump has been busy WINNING
Fade in. Sanlmar picks up rock
I know you (Sonatine) & Druff aren’t exactly big time privacy advocates. My life is a series of endless disappointments so don’t feel the need to apologize.
I had theorized previously that these are the waning days of looting and riots. Close out sale.
Gimme your take.
IBM ends its facial recognition business, joins call for police reform
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ib...=mw_latestnews
Can’t stop tech. The horse is out of the barn. The cynic in me wonders whether this signals there is little margin in a public bid & me too product.
Maintenance is good recurring revenue with all the stupid government clearances required. Cloud shit too.
I don’t have anything solid but sure makes you think.
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ibm just laid off a huge number of workers and image recognition is a highly competitive and highly politicized issue.
so odds of this being pure opportunistic pr = considerable.
Alright since people are talking about the craziness of things, I will just mind dump everything in this post. Trying to account for things not well reported either in here.
What We Know To Be True
Floyd was high on meth, oxy and weed at the time of his arrest
Floyd was already detained and in cuffs when Chauvin arrived on the scene (he didn't resist going into cuffs)
Floyd tried to dump some drugs out of his pocket
Floyd was confronted by the clerk about his fake $20, but instead of fleeing the scene he just stood around outside for some odd reason
Chauvin worked at the nightclub that Floyd worked at for 17 years as an off duty officer
You can find the Floyd porn movie on Porn Hub if you are looking
Weird Things That Need More Information
Floyd didn't come to Minneapolis by random choice, he came through an organization called Turning Point (not the far right organization it shares a name with). Turning Point bills itself as an African American Substance Abuse facility. They gave Floyd his apartment and a job, but it doesn't appear that he ever went to treatment there. There's a lot more about Turning Point. I am still not 100% sure the founder who refers to himself as Doctor is actually a doctor, and internet is a buzz from everything to they use recent convicts to elicit big billing from Medicaid (fraud) to they are a drug front. I think the Medicaid fraud is most likely because other organizations tied to this family have been investigated for fraud by the State of Minnesota. They do seem like 100% scam on some level because everyone involved from a Leadership level is from one family. As an aside their daughter was murdered in Atlanta in what was said to be a random shooting.
Kellie Chauvin is fascinating as well. She was previously married at a young age. Her first husband was reported to be abusive and she left him. He died randomly at a young age (there's very little information surrounding this but people are all over the map on the cause of his death). She has a bit of criminal history herself, writing bad checks when she was younger.
The way out there stuff
Kellie Chauvin was brothers with Derek Chauvin's parnter - had same last maiden name, this has been proven false but you still see it everywhere
Keith Ellison is deeply rooted into Turning Point, and knew Floyd (this I think is probably untrue), although there is evidence that Ellison does know and interacted with Turning Point
There's an attorney (who has good standing with the bar in Texas), that claims he was the guardian ad litem for George Floyd, and that he was living on the streets in Corpus Christi and died there, and this person is not George Floyd.
Conclusions
I think there's about a 90% chance that Chauvin is just a shit cop, hot head who over reacts to every situation and it finally caught up to him.
I think there's about a 10% chance that Floyd and Kellie Chauvin were having an affair (about 1% of that chance) or that Floyd and Chauvin were involved in something else gone sideways, most likely inovlving drugs.
If I had one place to dig, it would be Turning Point. I think it's the most logical piece that connects everything and everyone together.
What's the most confusing holiday in black communities?
Lol at this piece of shit druggie porn crack ho. Only in America are scumbags celebrated. He was trash and the family is already spending the millions they are gonna make of this asshole.Quote:
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Irrelevant. A police officer murdered him.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthisLol at this piece of shit druggie porn crack ho. Only in America are scumbags celebrated. He was trash and the family is already spending the millions they are gonna make of this asshole.Quote:
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If Floyd was white I sure wouldn't give a shit. In fact, I wouldn't have ever heard about this if he was white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakIrrelevant. A police officer murdered him.Quote:
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Originally Posted by nightmarefishIf Floyd was white I sure wouldn't give a shit. In fact, I wouldn't have never heard about this if he was white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
'They' are saying that this wouldn't have happened if he was white.
riiigggghhhhhhtttttt. I forgot cops don't kill white people. riiiiiggggghhhhhhtttttQuote:
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'They' are saying that this wouldn't have happened if he was white.
I wonder what compassionate, caring, tolerant political party this guy belongs to
Victim wasn't black so nothing to see here.Quote:
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I wonder what compassionate, caring, tolerant political party this guy belongs to
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DonkCrusher: You and Mumbles using MSNBC as a reputable source.
OSA: anti-Semitic piece of garbage
BLM MOTHERFUCKERS
Druff, you are strawmanning what a working super majority of Minneapolis council members who want yo defund their city’s current police department will end up doing based on the most extreme voices in that council are arguing for, which BTW is that the media have focused on given the newsworthiness of what those voices are saying.Quote:
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Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyDruff, you are strawmanning what a working super majority of Minneapolis council members who want yo defund their city’s current police department will end up doing based on the most extreme voices in that council are arguing for, which BTW is that the media have focused on given the newsworthiness of what those voices are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Mumbles, show me any evidence that the Minneapolis City Council is going to vote for anything other than a complete teardown and rebuild regarding what is known as modern policing.
Honestly, there should be one city where crime is legal. Anything goes. And if you don't like it, don't live there.
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Not sure where you're getting that the guy with a long-running radio gag of "being in a secret locaion" isn't a privacy advocate. I was a privacy advocate going back to the 1980s when everyone laughed at me for being a privacy advocate.
However, there are times when I believe privacy concerns should take a back seat to public interest. For example, I'm fine with police using sites like 23andMe in order to solve murder cold cases, because... they're murder cold cases. I'm also fine with law enforcement cracking iPhone passwords provided they have a warrant to do so. I find it absurd that people think that they somehow have a "right" to not have their electronics searched, even if police are holding a warrant authorizing a complete search of their person and property. We don't want pedos to be able to easily have a device to store all of their homemade child porn which isn't accessible to law enforcement, for example.
However, I am not a fan of general monitoring programs, and I'm especially not a fan of it when it comes to private industry doing it (often without your knowledge).
That's the real threat these days -- private industry. They're harvesting way more information about you than the government, and they're using it for far more nefarious purposes.
Anyway, back to the topic you brought up.
sonatine is correct. It's very possible IBM was on the verge of this decision anyway, and pulled the trigger because it bought them good woke PR.
A great rule of thumb is never to attribute corporate good citizenship to any other factor besides bottom line profit calculation. There are a few exceptions -- mainly companies with a long history of cause or religious based decisions. Chic-Fil-A legitimately cares about Christianity. Ben & Jerry's has long incorporated left-wing hippy politics into their company philosophy. Whether I agree or disagree with these companies on their politics, at least it's genuine.
IBM... not so much.
Actually it's been really irritating receiving the pandering e-mails from large companies, pretending like they're supporting change, and citing some million dollar donation they gave to a black charity. They're all dripping with such insincerity that I wonder if even the most gullible of the population takes their faux-concern seriously.
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Not sure where you're getting that the guy with a long-running radio gag of "being in a secret locaion" isn't a privacy advocate. I was a privacy advocate going back to the 1980s when everyone laughed at me for being a privacy advocate.
However, there are times when I believe privacy concerns should take a back seat to public interest. For example, I'm fine with police using sites like 23andMe in order to solve murder cold cases, because... they're murder cold cases. I'm also fine with law enforcement cracking iPhone passwords provided they have a warrant to do so. I find it absurd that people think that they somehow have a "right" to not have their electronics searched, even if police are holding a warrant authorizing a complete search of their person and property. We don't want pedos to be able to easily have a device to store all of their homemade child porn which isn't accessible to law enforcement, for example.
However, I am not a fan of general monitoring programs, and I'm especially not a fan of it when it comes to private industry doing it (often without your knowledge).
That's the real threat these days -- private industry. They're harvesting way more information about you than the government, and they're using it for far more nefarious purposes.
Anyway, back to the topic you brought up.
sonatine is correct. It's very possible IBM was on the verge of this decision anyway, and pulled the trigger because it bought them good woke PR.
A great rule of thumb is never to attribute corporate good citizenship to any other factor besides bottom line profit calculation. There are a few exceptions -- mainly companies with a long history of cause or religious based decisions. Chic-Fil-A legitimately cares about Christianity. Ben & Jerry's has long incorporated left-wing hippy politics into their company philosophy. Whether I agree or disagree with these companies on their politics, at least it's genuine.
IBM... not so much.
Actually it's been really irritating receiving the pandering e-mails from large companies, pretending like they're supporting change, and citing some million dollar donation they gave to a black charity. They're all dripping with such insincerity that I wonder if even the most gullible of the population takes their faux-concern seriously.
You wouldn’t feel that way about warrants if you knew just how easy they are to obtain.
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It would be great to have a city with no police -- or some kind of weak pseudo-police force -- and watch it turn into complete and utter chaos.
Rapes, robberies, murderers, savage beatings, organized crime, extortion, you name it.
Then people will realize that the need for police and jails were well established hundreds of years ago, that the job is often difficult and dangerous, and we can finally put this silly anti-police discussion to bed.
Reminds me of the spoiled kid who constantly bitches that his parents are so terrible, and he finally leaves home to show how much better he can do without them in his life. Then after everything falls apart, he returns home and finally appreciates all they did for him. We need that here.
Go ahead, Minneapolis. Do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ
Have black cops respond to black crimes, soon won’t be any black cops.
Let’s go back to segregation y’all can have your bad selves.
So many minority groups and the one that gets the most free shit whines the most and commits the most crime.
Government needs to quit propagating poor black bitches pumping out useless trash by multiple losers.
lol...
read this persons tweets
https://twitter.com/QueenOfGeele?lang=en
Something very similar to that actually existed in Hong Kong at one point. It was called the Kowloon Walled City, but it was demolished in 1994. When it existed, it was the densest place on earth (by far). 50,000 people lived in an area of 6.5 acres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffActually I would like that too.Quote:
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It would be great to have a city with no police -- or some kind of weak pseudo-police force -- and watch it turn into complete and utter chaos.
There's some longer documentaries on it, but here's some footage. There was actually a lot of industry, and they'd supply a lot of the high-end restaurants with noodles because they could produce them cheaply with no regulations (and with rats running around).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq4jAwPdCMw
Then reform the procedure for obtaining search warrants for devices to the requirement of a higher standard of necessity.Quote:
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You wouldn’t feel that way about warrants if you knew just how easy they are to obtain.
I can't get behind allowing every pedo wtih an iPhone knowing he has a safe place to store his kiddie porn, with zero worry of it ever being used against him.
I've seen some stuff about this before.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPIT thisSomething very similar to that actually existed in Hong Kong at one point. It was called the Kowloon Walled City, but it was demolished in 1994. When it existed, it was the densest place on earth (by far). 50,000 people lived in an area of 6.5 acres.Quote:
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There's some longer documentaries on it, but here's some footage. There was actually a lot of industry, and they'd supply a lot of the high-end restaurants with noodles because they could produce them cheaply with no regulations (and with rats running around).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq4jAwPdCMw
However, mix in some violent US culture into the whole thing, and I can only imagine what that would look like.
On the bright side, put some loot-proof cameras up within the city and we will have one of the best reality shows ever.
That's true, every time I hear Trump whining I think I guess he just hasn't had enough advantages in life. Better write himself a few more tax loopholes.Quote:
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shes got a point, all these fly over state maga tards cant go a week without their foodstamps and oxies.
First person I’ve seen who say they knew each other, but he isn’t super convincing imo. but I’d assume he knows.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/derek-...oworker-says/#
Lots of talk these past 2 weeks about "demilitarizing" police.
Can someone take a crack here at stating why this is a good idea? Seems like the goal is to weaken police so violent mobs can overwhelm and abuse them without consequence.
Either police have authority to use force, or they don't. We shouldn't be weakening them when they do need to use force. Militarized police would have put down these riots quickly, and people would have been more likely to peacefully protest than feel they could escalate to rioting/looting with no consequence.
When I think of demilitarizing police, I think of the North Hollywood Shootout of 1997. where a huge police contingent was outgunned by two dudes with heavy weaponry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
After that and similar incidents, police decided they would be more prepared to deal with heavily violent or threatening situations, and I was all for that.
if you read your history, you'll find places and times that were close to that: mining camps during the the California gold rush, no law or police--so vigilante groups formed; also Montreal, Canada in 1969 had a night of no police due to a strike--looting and destruction happened...so no need to have one lawless city to demonstrate what its like to have no police protectionQuote:
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After 32 years, the reality T.V. show "Cops" has been cancelled.
Thank you, George Floyd.
Which T.V. show is next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B-L3Y1Bm7g
Hopefully not scripted shows like Law & Order: SVU, Chicago PD, NCIS, or FBI. I like those shows. The Rookie can suck it.Quote:
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Pretty strightforward that police are reactionary and it’s better to target reasons for crimes than focus on arrests. It’s better to have police officers working as gang mentors or improving employment and education in hoods. Defunding police altogether is stupid and only the most extreme believe that. But there are legitimate arguments that funding for the aforementioned issues has better return on the dollar than miliarizing police.Quote:
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I’ll also emphasize that most developed nations do not militarize police and their crime issues are far less severe.
Also the idea that brute force can stop riots is pretty well tested throughout history....