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women, poc's and all marginalized peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
Slaughterhouses across the country have been closing because of the coronavirus. About 5,000 employees have tested positive for the virus and a couple dozen have died so far.
Trump then signs an order to keep them open anyway by labeling them critical infrastructure.
So if you get infected by the coronavirus from eating contaminated meat, pork or chicken, please blame Donald Trump.
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never thought id say it but Adelson is a close 2nd to trump on my death list
the fat orange pig takes over the top spot by a nose
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Originally Posted by TheXFactor
I hadn’t heard the neat is contaminated. I know over 30 have died given the cool temps and necessity to work closely. That shot lives a long time on cool surfaces. Has there been verified cases of contaminated food? I don’t know how you’d verify that given people don’t know where the fuck they catch this, but I hadn’t heard that. I have seen the Union guys pissed.
No cases of contaminated meat yet.
Why take a chance?
If you eat meat, pork, or chicken, it would be best if you buy organic or from a high end supplier that raises their own grass-fed product that is not from the slaughterhouses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVVXcGEnRKM
You think the run on supermarkets were bad just dealing with toilet paper?
Just wait till you close down these factories. Chicken thighs are going to be going for 20/lb
Why is Andrew Cuomo getting a pass for the disaster in his state? Why is de Blasio getting a pass for the disaster in his city?
They're still running crowded subway trains and other crowded trains from Long Island, Connecticut, and New Jersey. Cuomo just announced that they're going to start sanitizing the subways overnight. Yeah, great idea... why did you decide until late April to decide to do this?
I realize that NYC is largely dependent upon public transportation, but they haven't taken the public transportation angle seriously at all, and they've suffered for it.
And what about de Blasio getting a pass for telling Jews that he's going to arrest them for getting together? He put out a message specifically addressed to Jews about this, because of one group of Jews attending a funeral. Can you imagine if black people were at a funeral? Would de Blasio have scolded all black people for this and threatened to arrest them? I doubt it.
How are either of these two clowns getting any kind of credit? Their results have been dreadful. You can say that NYC is cramped and was destined to be a hotspot, but why isn't San Francisco (also similarly cramped) suffering the same fate?
I guess since Cuomo likes to scold Trump in his brusque New York manner, that makes him sound "in charge" and like someone who knows what he's doing.
New York City is worse than Italy and Spain in terms of death per 1,000,000 people. If you take greater NYC out of the stats, the rest of the US has one of the best death-per-million results in the entire world. Seriously. Look it up.
No one who isn't black is a far of Mayor DeBlasioQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If there were gatherings like the one in Chicago, in NY, I would hope DeBlasio would say that same thing. But the fact is that the Orthodox Jewish community have not respected any rules that the city have put out to maintain safety. Religion supersedes everything else. If you seen what they were doing to Jews in Israel, you wouldn't be so harsh with DeBlasio.
In regards to the public transportation, the homeless have taken over and crime has shot through the roof. I wouldn't take the train just based on those 2 factors.
Yes, the homeless are the reason they are finally deciding to "sanitize" the subway!Quote:
Originally Posted by OSANo one who isn't black is a far of Mayor DeBlasioQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If there were gatherings like the one in Chicago, in NY, I would hope DeBlasio would say that same thing. But the fact is that the Orthodox Jewish community have not respected any rules that the city have put out to maintain safety. Religion supersedes everything else. If you seen what they were doing to Jews in Israel, you wouldn't be so harsh with DeBlasio.
In regards to the public transportation, the homeless have taken over and crime has shot through the roof. I wouldn't take the train just based on those 2 factors.
Andrew Cuomo recently called it "disgusting" that homeless were sleeping on the trains and making them gross. Can you imagine the outrage if a Republican governor ever called the homeless "disgusting"?
For the same reason Obama got a pass for 8 years. They both present themselves very well, creates the illusion they’re playing great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
You know what would happen? Fox news, therefore people like you and sidestep and tgull, would come to rescue and validate everything that GOP said.
This isn’t a guess.
Plus he didn't call them disgusting, obviously. You, like a true Fox "news" viewer, conflated the two statements.
He's done more for homeless people than everyone on this forum combined, so save it.
Trump calls Baltimore ‘disgusting ... rodent infested mess,’ rips Rep. Elijah Cummings over border criticism
https://www.baltimoresun.com/politic...5zi-story.html
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I think its simply because they come off as functioning, dependable adults next to your jenius.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Imagine if Trump even had Mike Pence's demeanor and simply could gaslight with a calm, straight face.
Instead, Trump uses them to lash out as the media, seems more doddering by the day and floats truly insane notions of ingesting disinfectants.
Turns out being an insane lunatic helps your opposition in the eyes of the public .
Looks like Trump is putting pressure on scientists and intelligence agencies to conclude that the virus came from a lab in Wuhan.
The facts show this is very likely NOT the case.
The virus came from China and China deserves plenty of blame for trying to cover things up. Fuck those assholes. BUT that doesn't mean it came from a lab. It almost certainly came directly from animals, probably in those wet markets.
This reminds me of how W and Cheney tried to force intelligence to fit their Iraq WMD allegations. Totally irresponsible.
Good intelligence, science and data should drive policy decisions. NOT the other way around.
tl;dr: fuck China but fuck Trump too. (As always.)
Interesting post. Rich with detail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The pandemic is several months old. Trump has been spoken for hours nearly every day. I have never seen any thoughtful detailed criticism of the President from you.
You generally acknowledge he doesn’t excel at this but otherwise crickets.
Folks value those who can suspend partisan politics and think critically at all times.
Carry on
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Originally Posted by SanlmarInteresting post. Rich with detail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The pandemic is several months old. Trump has been spoken for hours nearly every day. I have never seen any thoughtful detailed criticism of the President from you.
You generally acknowledge he doesn’t excel at this but otherwise crickets.
Folks value those who can suspend partisan politics and think critically at all times.
Carry on
here comes with a post with the first sentence being about how trump can vaguely "be doing better" followed by 10 sentences about how unfair the democrats are
Well in fairness, if everyone else posting in this thread is criticizing Trump, I don't see a compelling reason Druff needs to jump on the bandwagon.
I am EXTREMELY critical of how Trump has handled this, and his presidency as a whole. I will definitely vote for whoever runs against him in the general election, I don't care who it is. I believe Reade and think Biden is senile and would just be a figurehead for DNC party rule and I still would vote for Biden over him.
That being said, I don't waste a lot of energy regurgitating the Trump hate. I don't really have any unique insights in that area. You guys have it covered pretty well, and then some. I definitely spend more energy pointing out that people are using their dislike of Trump to cloud their judgement of everything else going on in the world.
Let me know that you have listened to this BCR. I’m going to have to insist you do. Otherwise, I’ll have to hunt you down.
This piece frames the discussion exquisitely. It offers a quick historical review for those harboring misinformation and ignorance about China’s performance. You can only wish we were as efficient and successful.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ournalist-saysQuote:
"I hear anecdotally that people [in the U.S.] are holding ... barbecues and people are still going out on Internet dates and having play dates with kids," he says.
"Unfortunately, that's the reason that we have about 30,000 new infections a day in this country. ... China didn't reopen until they had zero new infections a day."
I read the article. I do agree with the author that if people who recover from infection have immunity (and despite scare-mongering there is no reason to assume they wouldn't, although we don't know definitively) we are going to have this perverse incentive/reward structure where people that are disobedient and unconscientious go about their lives (and get infected and recover) will be rewarded for it, and the rest of us who are doing our civic duty will be punished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Verm. Things I’m still thinking about a day or two later
China’s process. Removing a patient from family.
Willfully infecting oneself. Historical anecdotes
Lol, contact tracing when there are 30k new cases a day. Just stupid.
China opening only after achieving near zero new cases.
Lol sports returning
Update on rental situations in NY
Friend just signed a 2 year lease extension and get this....
He's paying $50 more a month for the first year and staying the same the 2nd year.
I told him he is playing his cards and not the situation. He tells me because he lives a block from Central Park, in the UWS, people aren't struggling to make ends meet and are actually moving in the neighborhood.
He spent so much money making the place nice and moving in furniture etc he didn't want to lose the apartment. I'm like ok, whatever. Enjoy.