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GSW -2 2nd half.
Also I'd likely take under 105 if someone forced me to pick.
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GSW -2 2nd half.
Also I'd likely take under 105 if someone forced me to pick.
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why cant they all be easy
Sick sick day for me. And druff didn't read my text excerpts.
I think if they think you know what you are doing you will get Pinnacle type lines. Otherwise the other set is prob juiced favs. But I am not sure and will look into it furtherQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffAre you saying that they juice the favorites in general, and only un-juice them for perceived sharps?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Druff or anyone else do you have anything different than this? Also these are only 4 games with lines.
It's not enough for these fuckers to bludgeon us with juice? They are now offering different lines based on betting patterns? Cheesy as fuck.
No offense but I just can't believe a few of you guys if you are gambling as heavy as you seem are using Bovada for a primary book. They offer some of the worst lines in the industry and have those small max bets from time to time for obvious reasons. Don't get me wrong I've used the Bovada book too but just saying if you are betting as much as it sounds like you'd be better off on 5Dimes or another solid book.
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For sure keep more than one book and smaller max bet could be a problem. But I can't understand the bad line arguement. If the line is bad the other side must be very good.
I hear you but Bovada is widely known to have some of the worst lines and odds possible but don't get me wrong that isn't always the case. I've at times found better lines and prices on there then others but not normally.Quote:
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Toronto is -8 and Charlotte is -5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's ClitDruff or anyone else do you have anything different than this? Also these are only 4 games with lines.
But it's also like 2 hours later.
went to site without logging in first. Saw the -8 and -5. Logged in and blipped back to where it was in my screen shot. Don't know how I didn't notice this before. My guess would be that this recently happened.
I've been donking sports on bodog since I was 18. And oh boy at that point I sure as hell wasn't getting sharp lines. They for sure don't have me tracked as a lifetime winner. I bet sports for 4 years way more off than on before I even found poker.
Edit: I can't remember when bovada started but I just remembered weekly trips to western union with between 100-500 to fund my betwwts.com account.
Reedit: Oh shit I forgot before that it was sportsinteraction.com first ... back then Jim Kelly would pop up on the screen pretty damn lifelike and endorse the site. That had to be cutting edge technology for those days.
I remember having big dreams of being a bookie back then. I had the plan set out to blast the dorms. I had the plan to set up a Kaiser Soze type that I "worked" for. Way before ever seeing Usual Suspects. I remember thinking I could get muscled collectors for 20 bucks an hour and they would feel overpaid. I wonder what would have happened. Too bad life events and eye problems held me down.
Well I took advantage of my sharp lines and took the square Toronto -7.5
1100 to win 1000. That bitch might be -9 by tip. It also might not but it seems like it should.
I will probably be looking at the (I'm guessing) more square side in the Washington vs. Miami game taking Washington -4.
Edit: Ended up with Toronto and also bet Orlando-3 (gulp) 440 to win 4. That's how I will keep my card. I think Washington will cover but games like that spook me.
Also just compared logged in to non logged in lines in the NFL and none of the numbers are different. However some sides are like (-125) (+105) while logged in instead of (-110) (-110) while logged out.
edit: for example I really like Kansas City at Pittsburgh this week. Unlogged in I get 3 points at (-105) Logged in I get 3 points at (-120)
If you are "betting heavy" you need at least two books, a sharp book and a square book. Square books include sportsbook.ag and Bovada. They slant lines/juice to favorites and overs. Sharp books like 5dimes and pinny keep true to what's being offered in Vegas and should be where you shop for dogs and unders.Quote:
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It's also usefull for shooting middles in prop bets. I remember having cam newton over 199.5 (5dimes) and under 249.5 (Bovada) his rookie year (finished with 232). Great way to risk $40-$50 to win $1000.
For the Drexel pick this weekend, HAMMER Baltimore over Texans. I heard some great stats on ESPN (esstientially, their coach used to coach the texans and knows all their personell), great on the road, texans QB positions is up for grabs, great on the road, Texas is 1-6 all time against Balt.
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if you agree, let Drex know.
I have never been on 5dimes, but I don't know how I could ever go on that site after the shit that I saw. I cant remember who posted it before, but it forced me to do a little google search, and I realized what a piece of work the owner must be. Judging by some of the screenshots, he just sounds like an unprofessional douchbag; and then there are stories of him keeping peoples money?
Maybe I got the wrong impression here, but there was a vibe that told me to stay away. im curious on others opinions though
Thinking of calling Bovada and asking them to unsquare my lines. Not joking.
Unless you guys know of another book where it's easy to deposit, easy to cash out, and reliable.
I am indeed noticing that favorites and overs are worse there.
Today's picks:
Charlotte/Philly - Under 193 - Two teams with big problems scoring playing one another.
Charlotte -4 -115 at Philly - As bad as Charlotte is, Philly is much worse, and I'm sure Charlotte is looking at this as a big opportunity to break their losing streak. Hard to pass up a small favorite against a 2-22 team.
Toronto -7.5 -105 at Detroit - Detroit is still terrible.
So I bet 735 to win 700 on the under, but the two sides predictably have bad lines on Bovada
Why not deposit on a WPN site?Quote:
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Like America's Card Room
What are lines?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Bovada Raptors -8
Pinnacle Raptors -7.5
Bovada Charlotte -4
Pinnacle Charlotte -4.5
In the case of Charlotte, you're getting a better line at this point.
LOL DARKO MILICIC FAILS AT ANOTHER CAREER:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12052717
now Charlotte jumps to -5 lol
I took Charlotte at -4.5 on 5Dimes. I doubt I moved the line.Quote:
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Never watched a minute of NBA but I gotta start sweating Druff.
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How are you seeing -4? I wonder if you have sharp lines there too.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdogWhat are lines?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Bovada Raptors -8
Pinnacle Raptors -7.5
Bovada Charlotte -4
Pinnacle Charlotte -4.5
In the case of Charlotte, you're getting a better line at this point.
It is -4.5 -115 here.
First time NBA better I will take the picks and run with them....
NBA guy likes under Portland TT 96
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team total? just a hunchQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffWhat does TT 96 mean?Quote:
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Gonna throw in Orlando -4 -105 vs Utah.
Last time Utah shocked Miami with an 18 point win on the road, but I don't see this terrible Jazz team winning their second in a row on the road here. Orlando isn't good by any means, but they are better than Utah, and they're at home, so I like the -4 line.
Just took Charlotte -4.5 for 770 to win 700.
Also going to go with Minnesota/Boston Under 211.5. Minnesota has struggled offensively lately, going 5 straight games with 95 points or fewer. Boston has been inconsistent with their scoring -- some big games, some under 100. I think this line is more reflective of the high total of both earlier in the season.
I am going to open a 5 Dimes account tonight. Does anyone have any suggestions for affiliates? I see that the standard bonus deal is 50% plus another 20% if the deposit is over $400.
If anyone here runs an affiliate site, let me know and maybe I'll do it through you.
Anyway, I took the Toronto -7.5 -115 though I hate paying that extra 5% juice.
Hopefully with a second book, this won't be an issue in the future.
My 5 bets:
Cha -4.5
Cha/Phi under 193 -105
Tor -7.5 -115
Orl -4 -105
Bos/Min - Under 211
Interesting note about the Charlotte/Philly game.
Charlotte is 1-10 on the road, and Philly is 0-13 at home.
Something's gotta give.
Charlotte/Philly under not looking good in early going. Already 26-24 with 2 minutes in 1st left.
Looks like the Jazz are going to spank me again. They're up by 15 already. Yuck.
Charlotte cruising to a 14 point lead, but the bad news is that the game has 72 points already just 13 minutes in, so the under is probably going to lose.
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Apologies to anyone who bet the under for Cha/Phil, as it's almost surely going to lose. 95 points in less than 18 minutes. What a misfire that one was.
Side looking nice, as Charlotte leads by 15.
Orlando is fighting back and is now only down by 7 to Utah, so that one is alive.
Unbelievably, Charlotte and Philly scored a grand total of 7 points in the last 5:05 of the first half, and the under is back in play, though still looking doubtful.
Halftime line is Philly -3. I wish Charlotte was leading by a bit more, and I'd take it. But a 20 point lead isn't quite enough, and coupled with it being Philadelphia, I don't want to fire on that one. Halftime O/U is 94.5, which I think is about accurate, so again I won't bother.
Min/Bos started out great for the under, but they've scored some since, and now it's still on pace to win, but not overwhelmingly.
Toronto shitting the bed so far and is behind 7 to Detroit. Might be a halftime bet there.
Utah up 6 on Orlando at the half. Don't want to bet the halftime there, but I hope Orlando comes back.
So far, of my 5 bets, one is easily winning, one slightly winning, 2 are behind but not out of it, and one looking terrible. Hopefully this changes.
Orlando down by 16 with 2 min left in the 3rd, and pretty much dead in the water. Wish I hadn't noticed that game shortly before tipoff.
Toronto tied at halftime 52-52. The line for the 2nd half is Toronto -5. Considered it, but not going to bother because the game line is only 7.5 and Detroit is looking better than expected so far.
Charlotte still up 20, 76-56 with 6 min left in the 3rd. The under has come back into play, as the two teams have combined for just 27 points in the last 11 minutes. However, it's still on pace for 211, so there's a long way to go for this under upset to happen.
101 points at halftime in a close game with Min/Bos. On pace to win, but could easily lose, too.
Realistically, the best I can hope for today is 3-2, though maybe the under miracle for Philly can happen to take me to 4-1, but I won't hold my breath. I'll be happy just to avoid losing today.
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The good news: Orlando has drawn within 7 with 6:39 left and this pick amazingly has a chance.
The bad news: Tons of scoring in Boston/Min, putting the game dangerously on pace for 209.
More good news: Toronto up by 8 in the 3rd
More bad news: 168 total points in Charlotte game with 9:12 left makes miracle under win look less likely