There are three options in a pandemic...
1) Race through it
2) Delay and Vaccinate
3) Coordinate and Crush
The U.S. and most of the world choose option two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi0edf_nJDo
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There are three options in a pandemic...
1) Race through it
2) Delay and Vaccinate
3) Coordinate and Crush
The U.S. and most of the world choose option two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi0edf_nJDo
Also a big problem with #2 is what happens if there's never a vaccine? Very possible scenario. Or if there is a vaccine and you have a huge percentage of a country's population unwilling to take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
I really don't know if the entire premise of herd immunity is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiffCo99The one mistake Sweden made was it failed to protect nursing homes early enough. They pulled a Cuomo early on and it cost them. Without that their numbers would have been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmick
They also lost a big chunk of lives in their migrant community and studies have shown the disease affects people with darker skin more adversely. The stats in the US back this up.
It will be interesting to see if other Nordic countries that locked down lack the herd immunity that Sweden may have achieved and if they’ll experience another wave of infections once the world fully opens and international travel resumes. I think it’s too early in the global course of the disease for any country to claim victories yet but I suspect when it all washes out Sweden will be close to par with other countries in terms of deaths.
Even so, comparing countries is not always apples to apples as many factors can affect case and death numbers.
These who have had COVID are not guaranteed immunity. But I am quite sure if you've had it once your immune system should not struggle to beat it off a second or third time.
And if it mutates considerably like the flu you might even lose this effect.
So the entire argument for herd immunity might be a huge assumption.
there will 100% be a vaccine of some sort, how effective it ends up being well thats another story
For the short term i think month ago the forecast was 5.5% hit to gdp and Finland was at 6.6%. Long term is something will see. Big factor is disability from covid and if Sweden has reached any kind of significant herd immunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishOnly time will tell if the other countries get a big second surge and Swedan doesn't. Also, I haven't looked at it but is Sweden's economy doing better than the others? Will be interesting to see the studies in a couple years when all this plays out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
Say it's 50% effective and only 50% of the people take it. I'm not sure where that leaves us.Quote:
Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS
It was pretty common that at the early stages no one really knew how much you needed to protect the elderly. Likely everyone will do better if there's a second wave.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiffCo99The one mistake Sweden made was it failed to protect nursing homes early enough. They pulled a Cuomo early on and it cost them. Without that their numbers would have been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmick
They also lost a big chunk of lives in their migrant community and studies have shown the disease affects people with darker skin more adversely. The stats in the US back this up.
It will be interesting to see if other Nordic countries that locked down lack the herd immunity that Sweden may have achieved and if they’ll experience another wave of infections once the world fully opens and international travel resumes. I think it’s too early in the global course of the disease for any country to claim victories yet but I suspect when it all washes out Sweden will be close to par with other countries in terms of deaths.
Even so, comparing countries is not always apples to apples as many factors can affect case and death numbers.
Migrant population generally lives in more crowded circumstances. I don't know what their current refugee center situation is but they aren't really big on assimilating migrants. So migrants tend to live on their own lower income housing projects.
Sweden did have a bunch of regulations that they followed regarding social distancing. Dunno what their mask rules were.
Na, when it hit Italy everyone else in the world should have known to protect the elderly.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmickIt was pretty common that at the early stages no one really knew how much you needed to protect the elderly. Likely everyone will do better if there's a second wave.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiffCo99
Migrant population generally lives in more crowded circumstances. I don't know what their current refugee center situation is but they aren't really big on assimilating migrants. So migrants tend to live on their own lower income housing projects.
Sweden did have a bunch of regulations that they followed regarding social distancing. Dunno what their mask rules were.
They probably only end up giving it to the old and vulnerable tbh so even if it's only 50% effective would still do a lot of good for at risk groupsQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishSay it's 50% effective and only 50% of the people take it. I'm not sure where that leaves us.Quote:
Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS
Sometime around mid-March might have been the earliest realistic time to do that. Still most countries were on their own BS. EU was going trough Brexit. Likely half the countries just assumed they were fine. Block a few flights and it's just another swine/bird flu.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishNa, when it hit Italy everyone else in the world should have known to protect the elderly.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmick
We don't really function that well globally with anything mildly unprecedented.
Persuasive stuff, Team Retard.
let's just do what the left wants, stay in our homes, shut up and depend on the governmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
non ironic use of planedemic is legit retarded, its up there with flat earth and the 5g going to kill everyone when they turn it on
it's just a meme bro try to remain calmQuote:
Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS
I'd be amazed if you didn't believe at least one of those 3 things lol
Why should anyone be concerned about government overreach and basic civil rights these days? Why?
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/s...77876665671681
well then you're an idiotQuote:
Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS
no u
dammitQuote:
Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS
Overwhelming majority of younger deaths in 30’s, 40’s and 50’s are obese, many 400 or 500 pounds.
https://www.themonitor.com/2020/08/1...-virus-deaths/
I keep telling everyone.........wake up fatties it’s time to get serious about food and exercise. You won’t regret it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiffCo99
It’s almost like you’re not allowed to talk about that. Oh wait, you ARE actually not allowed to talk about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthisI keep telling everyone.........wake up fatties it’s time to get serious about food and exercise. You won’t regret it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiffCo99
Instead of having a national conversation about raging obesity in the US It’s just orangemanbad all day all night.
God forbid FEELINGS are hurt to save LIVES! The agenda of bigpharma, medical, and junk food has insidiously come upon the American people, yet they mostly have not woken up to this sham.
YOU SHUT UP AND PUT ON MASK, STAY IN HOME, WEAR FACE SHIELD, STAY IN HOME, WEAR EAR PLUGS, STAY IN YOUR HOME FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY, YOU CAN GROCERY SHOP BUT YOU HAVE TO VOTE BY MAIL, YOU SHUT UP, WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST, YOUR KIDS CAN'T GO TO SCHOOL BUT WE'RE STILL TAKING TAXES FOR IT, YOU SHUT UP WEAR YOUR MASK AND STFU, WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
I just wrote a punk rock song lyrics above
https://www.propublica.org/article/c...ss-the-countryQuote:
The companies X-Mode and Tectonix analyzed travel to and from Las Vegas during four days, a Friday to Monday, in mid-July. In compliance with privacy laws, X-Mode collects data from smartphone users, mainly those using fitness and weather apps that track their location. The data represents about 5% of the smartphone users in the United States. Tectonix analyzed the data and visualized it on a map.
During the four-day period, about 26,000 devices were identified on the Las Vegas Strip. Some of those same smartphones also showed up in every state on the mainland except Maine in those same four days. About 3,700 of the devices were spotted in Southern California in the same four days; about 2,700 in Arizona, with 740 in Phoenix; around 1,000 in Texas; more than 800 in Milwaukee, Detroit, Chicago and Cleveland; and more than 100 in the New York area.
I look forward to working on these Vegas vector T cells down the road, "Cell Line Vegas Strip: donor 000765 got this strain SaRS-2 after an all night coke and booze bender at the Spearmint after losing $50k on blackjack"
we all know selfish assholes like tellafriend and the like are the ones spreading this shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Shizzmoney
I didn't need cell phone data to tell me that
hey so quick heads up, we are heading into winter and lysol wipes are currently unavailable through anyone but third party sellers on amazon and they are charging about 35 cents _per wipe_ im not even going to get into how hard it is to fund purell, so i suggest, again, that you dont count on a fucking thing being available in your supermarkets by the first snowfall and fuck around not at all with your stockpile math.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXn9ZKPx6CY
fake news fat boy, just bought lysol wipes today chunkQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Down 7 lbs since July 6th. Today started lifting to coincide with running. Going to be hard to get back to the same strength levels without all the gym equipment but I have so much time that I should be able to space out workouts and do more of them a week.
This was my last run
I need 2 months and I should be lifting pre Covid levels. Hoping to get to 7:30 a mile and do about 4 miles a day
nice job!Quote:
Originally Posted by OSADown 7 lbs since July 6th. Today started lifting to coincide with running. Going to be hard to get back to the same strength levels without all the gym equipment but I have so much time that I should be able to space out workouts and do more of them a week.
This was my last run
I need 2 months and I should be lifting pre Covid levels. Hoping to get to 7:30 a mile and do about 4 miles a day
What are you going to do about that face of yours?
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Originally Posted by sonatine
hey verminaard you got your stockpile of purell?
v.... verminaard........?
Hand sanitzer not hard to get. Wipes might be another story
THEY'RE STILL WORRIED ABOUT THE VIRUS LMAO'ING MY ASS OFF
I'm STILL getting texts asking if I have been quarantining and social distancing from a junior who I used to fuck raw every other week in exchange for weed and vapes at cost.
Of course I still take prep and have been, but apparently his roommate who is immuno-compromised is more of a health concern than me unloading a 5 day load in his cute blond butt.
Go figure
who do you think you’re fooling with this schtick? I’ve stayed quiet for long enough; stop larping fkn moron.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Soap and water is all you need, Lordy.
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Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe