**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

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PARTY TO WIN THE WISCONSIN ELECTORAL VOTE IN 2020 USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? (ALL ACTION WHENEVER ELECTION TAKES PLACE)
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PARTY TO WIN THE MINNESOTA ELECTORAL VOTE IN 2020 USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? (ALL ACTION WHENEVER ELECTION TAKES PLACE)
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PARTY TO WIN THE ARIZONA ELECTORAL VOTE IN 2020 USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? (ALL ACTION WHENEVER ELECTION TAKES PLACE)
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PARTY TO WIN THE TEXAS ELECTORAL VOTE IN 2020 USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? (ALL ACTION WHENEVER ELECTION TAKES PLACE)
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PARTY TO WIN THE IOWA ELECTORAL VOTE IN 2020 USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? (ALL ACTION WHENEVER ELECTION TAKES PLACE)
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Originally Posted by big dick

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If all of those favorites win, Biden wins the election.

Biden can lose Florida and still win.


Older People aren't feeling that MAGA nonsense atm and it could cost fat ass the election

The lack of enthusiasm is real. I’d need to see him consistently five up in every necessary state to feel like it’s a coinflip. Seven up to feel confident.

I kept having this discussion with other Dems in the primary thread. I kept saying I can see an argument for Bernie or Bloomberg if the virus hits us hard, just not Joe. And here we are cutting checks to people and have an economic crisis.

Bernie lost his mojo. He had a much more significant movement in 2016. He was just up against a juggernaut in Hillary. He underperformed everywhere after SC. So he wasn’t the correct choice most likely, though he would sound pretty good in an environment where we are discussing UBI type payouts.

Bloomberg was the choice. Sitting here in an economic crisis, with worse ahead, a data driven business guy would be faring better.

The black vote. That decided our candidate. We better hope they show up like the ticket is Obama/Dave Chappelle. Biden always has zero enthusiasm. That matters a lot.

There is still six months of a bad economy ahead, who knows with this virus, and I still don’t feel like Joe is necessarily a sure thing, but considering Trump has handled things almost as badly as possible and said more idiotic things in three months than most street people say in 10 years, needing to run perfect in three states with zero enthusiasm is frightening. Also Trump has a huge money advantage. Plus Joe matches Trumps idiotic statements with his clearly aging and confused statements.

I’m a big advocate for keeping your brain constantly engaged as you age. Every time I’m at my dads at the right time I throw jeopardy on and challenge him. From what I’ve seen there is a lot to doing puzzles and just being in the game.

Bloomberg was still in the arena. Bernie was still in the arena. Needing to think every day keeps you sharp. Genetics is a factor, but not the only one. Joe struck me as having been on a permanent vacation since leaving office. I’m not sure he was doing a lot of thinking when even in office. He wasn’t super sharp at any point. Now, he’s in trouble. I almost look at Trumps favorability more than polls. He needs to be at that bottom, which so far appears around 41% come election time. People enthused to vote against him. Joe isn’t exciting anyone.

The "black vote." What does that mean? That they are all lemmings and vote the same way? Are they incapable of voting differently or thinking for themselves? This entire view is so flawed. The gerrymandering is grossly unconstitutional. Isn't it a stereotype and therefore offensive to assume "the blacks" will always vote for a democrat or another black? If I am wrong, why are we grouping them together in voting districts to ensure someone with a particular skin hew is going to be elected? How is that reflective of a person's character rather than the color of their skin? Whites vote for blacks - see Obama. We are all being played.

so i guess trumps entire campaign strategy is to accuse biden of doing shit trumps done?

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

The "black vote." What does that mean? That they are all lemmings and vote the same way? Are they incapable of voting differently or thinking for themselves? This entire view is so flawed. The gerrymandering is grossly unconstitutional. Isn't it a stereotype and therefore offensive to assume "the blacks" will always vote for a democrat or another black? If I am wrong, why are we grouping them together in voting districts to ensure someone with a particular skin hew is going to be elected? How is that reflective of a person's character rather than the color of their skin? Whites vote for blacks - see Obama. We are all being played.

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They vote out of self-interest like almost everyone else. Immediate self-interest.

Their problems are generational and long established. You can say at this point they’re problems of their own making if you want, but their societal problems exist whatever the cause. When nearly 70% of kids are born to unmarried mothers in that community, who the fuck are they going to vote for?

That’s an increasing problem in all society, but a bunch of white people walk around making 31k with three kids by two dads thinking they have more in common with Donald Trump than they do with black people.

Nice rant though. They’re lemmings when all the rural ass broke white people who vote 80/20 for a guy who wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire aren’t. Ok. I’d posit black people are better at assessing self-interest than dumb white rednecks.

https://i.imgur.com/ShlpBQt.jpg

america is not a sophisticated place.

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

The "black vote." What does that mean? That they are all lemmings and vote the same way? Are they incapable of voting differently or thinking for themselves? This entire view is so flawed. The gerrymandering is grossly unconstitutional. Isn't it a stereotype and therefore offensive to assume "the blacks" will always vote for a democrat or another black? If I am wrong, why are we grouping them together in voting districts to ensure someone with a particular skin hew is going to be elected? How is that reflective of a person's character rather than the color of their skin? Whites vote for blacks - see Obama. We are all being played.

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Can't speak for BCR but I think what he meant is, after Mayor Pete and Bernie won the first few primary states, it went to SC and the Super Tuesday states where there was a much larger black population that broke heavily for Biden, which is why he ended up being the nominee. It gave him enough delegates and momentum.

I agree that I don't like seeing blacks lumped in as a monolithic group that will always vote one way, but the simple fact is that ever since Nixon's "southern strategy" the Republicans have decided that the way to lock up the south was to embed racial dog whistles into their rhetoric.

When Reagan announced his 1980 campaign he went to Philadelphia, MS where 3 (white) civil rights workers were brutally murdered in the 1960s, and he said "the south will rise again." Pretty obvious what that meant. With poppy Bush (who I thought was pretty good actually), the rhetoric not so much from him but his allies was all about "welfare queens." With W it was "reverse racism is now a bigger problem than racism, so we're going to refocus the justice department's civil rights division on that." With Trump, there are so many examples it's not necessary to count them, but he established his political bona fides by being the lead "birther." (Still waiting for his promised $5 million donation after Obama released his long form birth certificate, BTW.)

It's clear that Republicans don't give a shit about the black vote and make no effort to capture it. So while I don't like the stereotypes, it's upwards of 95% that any random black person is going to vote Democratic.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

so i guess trumps entire campaign strategy is to accuse biden of doing shit trumps done?

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Classic deflection technique, straight out of the dictator psyops playbook. Trump has used it to great effect.

Amash not gonna run as a 3rd party candidate


I think this helps Biden but unlike mr know it all druff im not certain and can admit it when im not sure if i'm right or wrong about something


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ama...nt-coronavirus

“It's clear that Republicans don't give a shit about the black vote and make no effort to capture it. So while I don't like the stereotypes, it's upwards of 95% that any random black person is going to vote Democratic.”

Do you think the Republicans trying to capture the black vote is a solid strategy and worth the investment ?

Stereotypes are typically based upon truths. Here, not only is the black electorate stereotyped, No one even blinks an eye when they are presumed to be guided by the hew of someone’s skin. It’s demeaning, yet no one mentions it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5JbLQVndYA

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Originally Posted by sonatine

https://i.imgur.com/ShlpBQt.jpg

america is not a sophisticated place.

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Jacket is kind of fire though.

Team Retard loves apparel.

Small sample size for sure. All from today.

RCP Average
5/17
50.5
41.6
Trump +8.9
888 Sport
May 17th
53
41
Trump +12
Betfair
May 17th
50
43
Trump +7
Betsson
May 17th
53
41
Trump +12
Bovada
May 17th
52
41
Trump +11 <---- Big Dick's gold standard
Bwin
May 17th
50
42
Trump +8
Smarkets
May 17th
46
40
Trump +6
SportingBet
May 17th
50
42
Trump +8
SpreadEx
May 17th
50
43
Trump +7

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

The "black vote." What does that mean? That they are all lemmings and vote the same way? Are they incapable of voting differently or thinking for themselves? This entire view is so flawed.

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Because we have polling and infinite data points to support this. But if you disagree, we can bet on it. Not sure why you live in a politically correct fantasy land.

There are some tremendous hedging opportunities on PredictIt/other betting sites.

For instance:
Republicans to win N. Carolina -105
Dems to win General Election ~+110

Some scenarios that could occur:
*Dems win North Carolina, in which case they're guaranteed to win the general. You lose the NC bet and win the GE bet, and break even.

*Republicans win NC. In this case you're freerolling the general election. Republicans could win, in which case you'll break even. But plenty of scenarios where Rs win NC, but Ds win GE, in which case you scoop both bets.

There's almost no scenarios where Democrats win NC but lose the general, which is the only scenario where you get scooped. You're basically setting yourself up for a freeroll while accumulating very little downside.

You can do the same thing in FL, which is trading about the same price as NC, but I think Trump is more likely to win NC than FL.

Donald Trump Jr. yesterday called Biden a pedophile on Instragram. Zero evidence of this ever. On the other hand, Trump walked into a dressing room full of underage girls and told a teenager that if she were older he'd be dating her.

Where's Team Retard on this?

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

Donald Trump Jr. yesterday called Biden a pedophile on Instragram. Zero evidence of this ever. On the other hand, Trump walked into a dressing room full of underage girls and told a teenager that if she were older he'd be dating her.

Where's Team Retard on this?

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BIDEN is a pedophile and rapist. Also a transphobic xenophobic child groper! Joe Biden has got to go!!

Sad!