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Come on Tine, you have to stay on top of this shit. I really am too busy to start a competing thread, but please let's get it together.
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Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 PM EDT Sat Jul 25 2020
For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:
1. A broad area of low pressure associated with a tropical wave located
several hundred miles west-southwest of the Cabo Verde Islands is
producing a large area of cloudiness and disorganized showers and
thunderstorms. Environmental conditions appear conducive for
development, and a tropical depression is likely to form early next
week while the wave moves westward at around 15 mph across the
tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...50 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.
Forecaster Brennan
Double gut check. Hanna in Tx today and Douglas smacks Hawaii tomorrow which is very rare to begin with taking aim at Oahu where Honolulu is. The potential for major flooding there can’t be discounted with the mountains just wringing out those storm clouds along with winds easily at Major Hurricane force at those elevations likely
I've always found NOAA Weather Radio interesting. You can stream most of the country's stations online here:
http://noaaweatherradio.org/
I mean come on Sonatine. There is a potential hurricane heading for Miami and you are analyzing penny stocks. If you start a thread like this you have to keep it up. I told you this was not as easy as it looked. Wait until September, which is the peak season. You might just want to relinquish control of this thread to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
OH SHIT WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR ON THREE FRONTS
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeOPU8jU...g&name=900x900
Absolutely unprecedented bloodbath incoming. Possibility of a perfect storm wiping out everything south of the Mason Dixon line if the Hawaii force gathers momentum and moves about 3950 miles northeast in the next few hours, which my projections indicate is 100% probable.
Stock up on iodine because Trump will probably try to nuke it to dissipate the energy before Russia and China use advanced weather manipulation space based technology to guide the super hurricane directly to Washington, and remember to sterilize your iodine because by now the entire iodine manufacturing/supply chain is filthy with covid.
I would not mind if Miami got clipped with a Cat 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
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Originally Posted by Daly
July 29th a Category 1 is headed right at West Palm Beach
July 30th Mr Daly your Shutters are done your $11K bill is now due
Aug 1st Hurricane downgraded to TS, is turning west And will likely not touch ground in Florida
Can’t make this shit up if I tried
living in Florida sucks, why do you put up with itQuote:
Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
July 29th a Category 1 is headed right at West Palm Beach
July 30th Mr Daly your Shutters are done your $11K bill is now due
Aug 1st Hurricane downgraded to TS, is turning west And will likely not touch ground in Florida
Can’t make this shit up if I tried
Are you in west palm, my deads condo is thereQuote:
Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
July 29th a Category 1 is headed right at West Palm Beach
July 30th Mr Daly your Shutters are done your $11K bill is now due
Aug 1st Hurricane downgraded to TS, is turning west And will likely not touch ground in Florida
Can’t make this shit up if I tried
Huh? 11 grand for boarding up a few windows? That's all you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
July 29th a Category 1 is headed right at West Palm Beach
July 30th Mr Daly your Shutters are done your $11K bill is now due
Aug 1st Hurricane downgraded to TS, is turning west And will likely not touch ground in Florida
Can’t make this shit up if I tried
You've heard of quotes right?
For 5 grand a month I can offer you personal advice and this won't happen again
I am not suggesting you don't need storm shutters on the east coast of Florida. But you got them because of a Cat 1 storm? Seriously? A Cat 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
July 29th a Category 1 is headed right at West Palm Beach
July 30th Mr Daly your Shutters are done your $11K bill is now due
Aug 1st Hurricane downgraded to TS, is turning west And will likely not touch ground in Florida
Can’t make this shit up if I tried
11k for installation of accordion style hurricane shutters........ Not to “board up” using metal/plywood.
Couldn’t be more wrong, but it does suck for 3 months a year. That’s why you need a place to go north of the Mason Dixon line in the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwailiving in Florida sucks, why do you put up with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Ok. When it sucks in my neck of woods for that amount of time we just put on a coat.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyCouldn’t be more wrong, but it does suck for 3 months a year. That’s why you need a place to go north of the Mason Dixon line in the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwai
THIS IS HOW DESPERATE PEOPLE ARE TO GET OUT OF THE STORMS PATH IN FLORDIA PEOPLE GET YOUR LOVED ONES SOMEPLACE LIKE SOUTH DAKODA OR FRANCE IMMED
I always wanted to play poker at kennel club, dad wouldn't go for it wishing u all the best. Hes close to macarthur park i walked there from their condos beach took a couple of hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZOAre you in west palm, my deads condo is thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Opening and closing those things was the biggest pain in the balls. You have to inch them along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Worth every penny though for the peace of mind.
Do you have a brace on the inside of the garage doors?
That ABF driver should be fired immediately AND have his CDL suspended for endangering the life of that idiot on the hood of his truck. But I digress...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
‘Cause the Storm is comin’ for ya, Tinemind. Be sure to have your floaties on.
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guys its hard enough to keep you all safe without tgull's help, dont make it harder by ignoring good advice.
pack up whatever you love and flee to whatever northern states will have you.
The last one totally whiffed on Florida, so now 48% of the state has had the chance to reaffirm to themselves that weather forecasts are part of the fake news deep state collusion witch hunt hoax.
A perfect storm.
literally cribbing a plot line from House of Cards trump is going to raid FEMA to pay for unemployment insurance etc.
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Originally Posted by SanlmarOpening and closing those things was the biggest pain in the balls. You have to inch them along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Worth every penny though for the peace of mind.
Do you have a brace on the inside of the garage doors?
Standard issue down here. If they weren’t braced it would be the first thing to cave in.
Don't worry Congress will pony up hurricane relief money for red states yet again, subsidized by blue state taxpayer dollars, even while the Republicans block desperately needed aid to state and local governments to help the unemployed.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Is New Jersey a red state ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakDon't worry Congress will pony up hurricane relief money for red states yet again, subsidized by blue state taxpayer dollars, even while the Republicans block desperately needed aid to state and local governments to help the unemployed.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
How much hurricane relief money is NJ getting year after year compared to FL, GA, SC, LA and TX?Quote:
Originally Posted by TellafriendIs New Jersey a red state ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
The TOTAL disaster relief allocation at the federal level has run between 6-8 Billion a year the previous decade. That’s for all states not just red ones and it’s for more than hurricanes. I’m willing to let go without research that more money goes to “Red States”, but it’s far from all of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakHow much hurricane relief money is NJ getting year after year compared to FL, GA, SC, LA and TX?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
The state of Illinois has a formal request into the US Congress for $40B to prop up, not cure, the states pension liabilities the state operating budget and general indebtedness. A complete level set bailout would be magnitudes higher. Estimated unfunded liabilities are ~$350B
The state of California “CalPERS” has estimated unfunded liabilities of $750B.
So Walter - Florida says you can keep the $2B for the next hurricane. Our state has well over 10B escrowed through insurance payments over the last 15 years since Andrew. We have 12B of unfunded pension liabilities which is completely fine with our yearly budget and population growth rate.
You are literally comparing Airplanes to Oranges in terms of size of problems.
I'm talking about helping with the effects of Covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyThe TOTAL disaster relief allocation at the federal level has run between 6-8 Billion a year the previous decade. That’s for all states not just red ones and it’s for more than hurricanes. I’m willing to let go without research that more money goes to “Red States”, but it’s far from all of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
The state of Illinois has a formal request into the US Congress for $40B to prop up, not cure, the states pension liabilities the state operating budget and general indebtedness. A complete level set bailout would be magnitudes higher. Estimated unfunded liabilities are ~$350B
The state of California “CalPERS” has estimated unfunded liabilities of $750B.
So Walter - Florida says you can keep the $2B for the next hurricane. Our state has well over 10B escrowed through insurance payments over the last 15 years since Andrew. We have 12B of unfunded pension liabilities which is completely fine with our yearly budget and population growth rate.
You are literally comparing Airplanes to Oranges in terms of size of problems.
I'm not opposed to hurricane relief. The government should help people who have been hit by tragedy. But the Republicans are saying "no blue state bailouts." Well fuck them. A disaster is a disaster whether it's a hurricane or a virus.
Also, Florida is going to be underwater soon if we don't do something about climate change. So toss in a little money for that while we're helping people rebuild their oceanfront properties.
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Originally Posted by Walter SobchakI'm talking about helping with the effects of Covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
I'm not opposed to hurricane relief. The government should help people who have been hit by tragedy. But the Republicans are saying "no blue state bailouts." Well fuck them. A disaster is a disaster whether it's a hurricane or a virus.
Also, Florida is going to be underwater soon if we don't do something about climate change. So toss in a little money for that while we're helping people rebuild their oceanfront properties.
So how much should Illinois get then? How about the rest of the states? What if a state is managed well and doesn’t need money do they get some too?
If your position is we should throw Illinois 1-2 Billion to keep them above water for a month or three under the guise of “COVID Relief” then I guess that’s not completely out of bounds. If it’s we need 40B to start plus another 500B for....
1 California $152.80 Blue
2 New York $139.20 Blue
3 Massachusetts $77.00 Blue
4 New Jersey $65.90 Blue
5 Illinois $61.80 Blue
6 Texas $51.00 Red
7 Pennsylvania $47.50 Blue
8 Connecticut $38.80 Blue
You might have to start to question the fiscal decision making of a certain party and question if a bailout is appropriate.
You get to choose, by and large, the decisions that lead these states into debt. It wasn’t Covid or Hurricanes or global warming.
you just got REKT with stats WalterQuote:
Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
So how much should Illinois get then? How about the rest of the states? What if a state is managed well and doesn’t need money do they get some too?
If your position is we should throw Illinois 1-2 Billion to keep them above water for a month or three under the guise of “COVID Relief” then I guess that’s not completely out of bounds. If it’s we need 40B to start plus another 500B for....
1 California $152.80 Blue
2 New York $139.20 Blue
3 Massachusetts $77.00 Blue
4 New Jersey $65.90 Blue
5 Illinois $61.80 Blue
6 Texas $51.00 Red
7 Pennsylvania $47.50 Blue
8 Connecticut $38.80 Blue
You might have to start to question the fiscal decision making of a certain party and question if a bailout is appropriate.
You get to choose, by and large, the decisions that lead these states into debt. It wasn’t Covid or Hurricanes or global warming.
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Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
So how much should Illinois get then? How about the rest of the states? What if a state is managed well and doesn’t need money do they get some too?
If your position is we should throw Illinois 1-2 Billion to keep them above water for a month or three under the guise of “COVID Relief” then I guess that’s not completely out of bounds. If it’s we need 40B to start plus another 500B for....
1 California $152.80 Blue
2 New York $139.20 Blue
3 Massachusetts $77.00 Blue
4 New Jersey $65.90 Blue
5 Illinois $61.80 Blue
6 Texas $51.00 Red
7 Pennsylvania $47.50 Blue
8 Connecticut $38.80 Blue
You might have to start to question the fiscal decision making of a certain party and question if a bailout is appropriate.
You get to choose, by and large, the decisions that lead these states into debt. It wasn’t Covid or Hurricanes or global warming.
You are figuratively banging your head into a wall.
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[x] FLAMING ELMO MODE
People also get to choose whether to build homes on oceanfront property so they can watch them get destroyed again and again.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
So how much should Illinois get then? How about the rest of the states? What if a state is managed well and doesn’t need money do they get some too?
If your position is we should throw Illinois 1-2 Billion to keep them above water for a month or three under the guise of “COVID Relief” then I guess that’s not completely out of bounds. If it’s we need 40B to start plus another 500B for....
1 California $152.80 Blue
2 New York $139.20 Blue
3 Massachusetts $77.00 Blue
4 New Jersey $65.90 Blue
5 Illinois $61.80 Blue
6 Texas $51.00 Red
7 Pennsylvania $47.50 Blue
8 Connecticut $38.80 Blue
You might have to start to question the fiscal decision making of a certain party and question if a bailout is appropriate.
You get to choose, by and large, the decisions that lead these states into debt. It wasn’t Covid or Hurricanes or global warming.
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Originally Posted by dwaiyou just got REKT with stats WalterQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Those states have subsidized the poor ass red states every single year since the 70s. Basically the blue states subsidize the low tax rate south year after year, so that is really disingenuous. Every year if you look at who gets the most return for taxes paid, the takers will all be red states getting sometimes $4 for every dollar they add while the responsible blue states will pay more than they get back. Basically the south is a large welfare state. Cuomo just pointed this out while arguing with McConnell over this and laughed at his notion states should declare bankruptcy given all the red states all takers and broke .. NY pays $120 billion more than they get back every year. Kentucky gets $150 billion more than they pay in. Whole state is on food stamps and aid.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
So how much should Illinois get then? How about the rest of the states? What if a state is managed well and doesn’t need money do they get some too?
If your position is we should throw Illinois 1-2 Billion to keep them above water for a month or three under the guise of “COVID Relief” then I guess that’s not completely out of bounds. If it’s we need 40B to start plus another 500B for....
1 California $152.80 Blue
2 New York $139.20 Blue
3 Massachusetts $77.00 Blue
4 New Jersey $65.90 Blue
5 Illinois $61.80 Blue
6 Texas $51.00 Red
7 Pennsylvania $47.50 Blue
8 Connecticut $38.80 Blue
You might have to start to question the fiscal decision making of a certain party and question if a bailout is appropriate.
You get to choose, by and large, the decisions that lead these states into debt. It wasn’t Covid or Hurricanes or global warming.
That has been the case for decades. Blue states subsidizing the welfare south.
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Originally Posted by BCR
And why do you think that is?
Combination of factors. You’re blacker, thus poor, but you also are non-union and wages are low, thus a larger percentage of your population needs federal assistance to pay for health care they don’t have through jobs and food assistance. You also have the highest disability rates in the country because your populace is fat and unhealthy. Either way, the idea that blue states are making out on this deal is laughable. Red states in the south are welfare states. That’s part demographics and part that they are obese and right to work states.Quote:
Originally Posted by TellafriendQuote:
Originally Posted by BCR
And why do you think that is?
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Originally Posted by BCRCombination of factors. You’re blacker, thus poor, but you also are non-union and wages are low, thus a larger percentage of your population needs federal assistance to pay for health care they don’t have through jobs and food assistance. You also have the highest disability rates in the country because your populace is fat and unhealthy. Either way, the idea that blue states are making out on this deal is laughable. Red states in the south are welfare states. That’s part demographics and part that they are obese and right to work states.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
You are welcome to take those fine folks back up north if you like. I don't think any of us who contribute down here would object.
Back up? We are talking Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, and the rest of the slave states. There isn’t any back up. Your demographics are of your own making.
Those liabilities Daly listed are largely pensions. Which is also why a smaller percentage of blue states need assistance, and are net donators as they already have health care. Not to the degree they used to and now even a California isn’t the straight bankroll they used to be, but in general, blue states pay for the sins of red states whether it be slavery, gluttony, etc. Have for decades.
The south, the plains and Alaska. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCRThose states have subsidized the poor ass red states every single year since the 70s. Basically the blue states subsidize the low tax rate south year after year, so that is really disingenuous. Every year if you look at who gets the most return for taxes paid, the takers will all be red states getting sometimes $4 for every dollar they add while the responsible blue states will pay more than they get back. Basically the south is a large welfare state. Cuomo just pointed this out while arguing with McConnell over this and laughed at his notion states should declare bankruptcy given all the red states all takers and broke .. NY pays $120 billion more than they get back every year. Kentucky gets $150 billion more than they pay in. Whole state is on food stamps and aid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
That has been the case for decades. Blue states subsidizing the welfare south.