So what about the floor?
is he wrong too?
So what about the floor?
is he wrong too?
If he heard the whole story then absolutely. But honestly there is almost no chance he did. Floors want everything to smoothly and no weirdness so they will always give the answer that best suits that to a question. So if you ask one of them if you can use thumbs up as your raise they will all so no because the last thing they want to do is start that trend. Buuuuut, if you tell one of them it happened, the dealer called it out, and seven people folded based on that info, well then yes Larry it is a raise. I was going nuts earliar but then I realized how it made sense. If Druff comes back and says that the dealer explained every detail of the hand to the floor I will go nuts again.
It's where the poker kitchen used to be.Quote:
Brittney Griner's Clit: Where the fuck is the Miranda room?
I am not usually a "rules asshole" at the table, and tend to let small things go, even if I can use the rule to angle a favorable position for myself.
This one was an exception, because it was Phil Hellmuth. Between his treatment of people at the table and his UB ownership/representation, I didn't mind rule angling him.
I also wasn't looking to screw the other 7 who folded in front of me. When it came to my BB decision, that's when it dawned on me that perhaps the "thumbs up" motion wasn't an official raise.
You want to hear rule angling?
On Day 6 of the 2010 Main Fucking Event, I accidentally folded my BB face up because I didn't see someone had called, and thought the hand was over. Nobody cared. Except Tristan Wade, who piped up, "Wait! That's a penalty! That needs to be a penalty."
I explained to Tristan that I just missed seeing the chips across the table calling the bet (the WSOP felts tend to be busy with ads), and honestly thought the hand was over. He held steady and said, "We need to go by the rules."
The floor issued me a 20-minute penalty -- shortstacked on Day 6 of the Main!
I was furious. Later, Tristan apologized when I called him out on Twitter and on Donkdown (I gave it to him at the table for this, too), but I don't know if the apology was sincere. He and I didn't know each other prior to this, so it wasn't about history.
Oddly, this EXACT scenario happened with Theo Tran minutes earlier across the room, and he also got a penalty.
the real money is the Parko thumbs up gif but this one at least gets our point across.
Druff we don't care about the 2010 Main Event.
We care about you winning the Limit Tourney you're on Day 2 of.
ok so im clear here....
PH never stole any money yeah?
also, re: the stuff he does at the tables....
I do recall him buying an entire table AN ice cream cup.
Humberto been doing that move since i was a toddler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uysDWcrNz6Y
Instead of taking a river phone call can we get Brandon to call Phil again? Hopefully he's not at Best Buy with his son again and completely available for a random interview
o/u post 97 Tyde coming in and blowing this thing to smithereens
Is Druff at like a coast to the money stack or does he have to win a few hands today. Not like he would play extremely scared to bubble but you know what I mean. The reason I ask is that I feel poor Jsearles forum life depends on a cash here.
So is it a wsop rule that all raises have to be verbalized? If he would have thrown out two 500 chips instead of a single 1k chip would that have constituted a raise?
In most cash games I've played one chip is always a call unless raise is verbalized, but if you put out multiple chips in the amount of a legal raise, it's always a raise even if it's accidental.
Just curious, why Druff is still consumed with UB and AP scandals? I played on there, and lost a lot of money. But nearly 10 years later I am over it. Plus the statute of limitations is long gone. I agree Hellmuth was an unmitigated d-bag in this latest encounter. But to bring up things from the last decade, I dunno, it was a long time ago. Maybe Phil got away with one, but it was so long ago nobody really cares anymore. Just a long time to re-litigate something, especially since probably a couple players at the table were like 14 years old at the time.
pretty clear the rule changes depending on floor manager.
:tight
Break Time, Money Bubble Shortly After
Players are on a 15-minute break. There are 96 players remaining and 93 make the money, so the bubble should burst shortly after the break.
Somewhere, Phil just started giggling and he doesn't know why.
GG Druff, TAKE IT DOWN.
TAKE IT DOWN
And he's done....
Every year I am reminded why I hate tournament poker, and then 11 months pass and I return for the same frustration.
Being the stone bubble boy after you've spent 13 hours playing is really annoying. It's not even the money, but rather the knowledge that you achieved the absolute worst result -- maximum time invested for zero return.
This isn't quite as bad as 2012 where I lost 4 consecutive hands to become the $5k Limit Holdem bubble boy (also my first event of the year), but it's close.
Had I cashed, it would have been a nice accomplishment given that I was below average in chips almost the whole tournament.
Great way to start out the WSOP.
I do get 3 days to calm down before my next event, so there's that.
What the fuck is wrong with you guys. You really troll people when they stone bubble. I know huge douchebags and they wouldn't even consider doing that.
#disgusted
Druff if you really want to sell me on a dupe have it come at yourself now.
No, and I don't mind the traditional "Take it down" type responses, because that's what this place is about.
But to actually write an insulting troll post in response to me busting is especially obnoxious, but that's par for the course with you. I'm not the least bit surprised that you were the one being the biggest asshole in the thread.
I won't lie, I respect your shots fired in frustration after busting. It's been good theatre. IST reveal was the best
I know you won't believe me but I rail all the WSOP threads on here and root for you and others to do well. Druff winning another bracelet would be awesome, truthfully. My bubble comments above were legit opinions. Repeatedly stone cold bubbling should be examined. I doubt it's just a coincidence......
"Repeatedly stone bubbling" when I've done it twice in 13 WSOPs?
It's just an unfortunate coincidence that both bubbles occurred on the first event of the year, and both were limit holdem.
Of course, you're more likely to stone bubble limit holdem because you can't shove all-in pre, so you're not getting your stack in as often when you are fairly short.
Look at my $1500 WSOP Limit Holdem event last year, where I was chip leader with 42 left, and finished 40th. That's not the sign of someone playing scared.
In this case, I was not consistently winning hands at any point in the tournament, but kept chipping back out of the danger zone when low.
Unfortunately, after getting to 30k today, I stopped hitting hands, and was getting some of the worst flops possible. So it kept going raise, get 3-bet, see horrendous flop, fold. Then I was card dead forever. Then the 88 hand.
lol stone bubbling comes with the territory. Most of the time it's completely unavoidable. And if you fold premium hands to avoid such pain. Then good luck sleeping at night, and putting food on the table (if you play full time)
Lost count at how many (online) tourneys I've taken down after getting my chips in on the bubble.
Mea culpa. I'm not a limit or any type of pro obviously. Just an observation. You likely played it completely optimal and just ran bad. Todd is God after all
You're the best. We all love you. Keep your chin up. You can do it. We are all behind you and whatnot......