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Suspension shouldnt even be posted until it is an official suspensionQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
The NFL doesnt leak anything they punish the player. Sherman got a 4 game suspension. Its not like all of a sudden hes not playing and everyones like wheres Sherman. They announce the punishment. They dont announce what substance was used which is bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
While we are at it, they should get rid of the injury report too
It was official but you get to appeal it before it goes into affect, which is a must. If there wasnt an appeal process he would have missed 4 games like the other Seahwak corner who didnt appeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacSuspension shouldnt even be posted until it is an official suspensionQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
While we are at it, they should get rid of the injury report too
Agreed the injury report is a joke. The Pats put half their team ques, so for Fantasy you have no idea if their really injured or not.
Tony or any Seahwaks fan who would you rather play in the 1st round Wash or Dallas?
GO RAMS
:knife the seabirds
DIRTY BIRDS
At some point, in the past 5 days, a report was leaked by a Chicago Bear player, that was very quietly given to the Chicago Bears by either the league or the head of officials that basically was an apology for the officiating of the Bears/Seahawks game. The officials admitted after the game that they completely blew a few calls, which lead to TWO TOUCHDOWNS for the Seahawks and likely cost the Bears the game.
I read it online and cant remember where I saw it, so if someone finds it, please post.
And LOL at Chicago going 7-1, and then leaving their future up to the Packers. Lovie should be canned. Bring in Chucky out of the booth.
Which player has had a false positive test leaked to the media?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacWhat about false positives?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
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Originally Posted by DRK Star
The Seahawks getting bad calls to go their way? I dont believe it. Did you see the hit on Davis they got a 15 yard penalty on that. The Seahawk fans should be outraged at how the officials have treated them this year. Bears still suck btw
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Originally Posted by ShadyJQuote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
The Seahawks getting bad calls to go their way? I dont believe it. Did you see the hit on Davis they got a 15 yard penalty on that. The Seahawk fans should be outraged at how the officials have treated them this year. Bears still suck btw
Its not like I'm bitter. The fail mary only cost GB any shot of winning a super bowl. They will get killed by SF in SF. The worst call in the history of the NFL now benefits the Niners.
Hard to say, I don't sweat either of them but the hawks will have to play better than they did today. I'll say Washington as RGIII is still gimpy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
Today's game was painful. We walked into the stadium whistling dixie and the lambs made life pretty miserable for us for most of 3 quarters.
Didn't research it hard enough but Sherman was innocent. His case shouldn't have been made publicQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserWhich player has had a false positive test leaked to the media?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Vegas 1369 is this true?
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He wasn't innocent. He was reinstated because the proper chain of custody procedures weren't followed. He was reinstated based on a technicality. Not because he didn't fail his test. Richard Sherman never said "I didn't do it" he said "it will be overturned." His piss cup leaked and his piss was transferred to another cup, and the tester didn't include that in his report. Now either Richard Sherman was using illegal substances or some random Adderall powder was in the bottom of the new piss cup. I think we all know what happened. He failed his test and it was reported. Not sure what he would have to be upset about.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacDidn't research it hard enough but Sherman was innocent. His case shouldn't have been made publicQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
He was innocent. Never should have been public. He should sueQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserHe wasn't innocent. He was reinstated because the proper chain of custody procedures weren't followed. He was reinstated based on a technicality. Not because he didn't fail his test. Richard Sherman never said "I didn't do it" he said "it will be overturned." His piss cup leaked and his piss was transferred to another cup, and the tester didn't include that in his report. Now either Richard Sherman was using illegal substances or some random Adderall powder was in the bottom of the new piss cup. I think we all know what happened. He failed his test and it was reported. Not sure what he would have to be upset about.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacHe was innocent. Never should have been public. He should sueQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
Tebow should replace Manning in Denver.
Yes him and Casey AnthonyQuote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacHe was innocent. Never should have been public. He should sueQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
You think so? Tough to replicate the season manning had but if anyone could have done it the same or better it would have been TebowQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserLol.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Tebow should replace Manning in Denver.
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The Chicago Tribune learned that the NFL admitted to the Bears after their 23-17 overtime loss to Seattle in Week 13 that game officials had erred by not calling two offensive pass interference penalties committed by Seahawks receivers. Both uncalled penalties occurred on drives that resulted in Seattle touchdowns, including the winning score in overtime.
The first came on third-and-6 from the Seahawks 47 with 3 minutes, 10 seconds left in the first half. Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson threw a deep sideline pass to wide receiver Golden Tate. Tate subtly shoved Jennings to the ground with his right hand near the Bears 30 and came down with what he turned into a 49-yard reception. The Seahawks scored a touchdown on the next play from the 4.
The disputed no-call against Tillman came in overtime. With the Seahawks facing a critical third-and-10 from the Bears 25, Wilson rolled left to escape the rush and found wide receiver Doug Baldwin for a 12-yard completion. To separate, Baldwin rammed his shoulder into Tillman after he opened his hips. The collision knocked Tillman to the ground. On Fox’s telecast, analyst Tim Ryan remarked, “Baldwin got away with a little bump.”
The league also confirmed, in the context of the NFC playoff race, that the three most crucial offensive pass-interference plays of 2012 didn’t involve rookie Alshon Jeffery against the Packers — calls the league later supported in correspondence with the Bears.
All three involved the 10-5 Seahawks.
Besides the two against the Bears, the well-documented no-call Sept. 24 on Tate pushing Packers cornerback Sam Shields before Tate’s touchdown catch on the final play gave the fifth-seeded Seahawks a victory.
Only Jesus could replace Manning. I feel privileged to be a football fan while he is playing and to see him play. But Tebow should get a shot SOMEWHERE. Guy has won more games than he has lost, and beat Pittsburgh in the playoffs. If he is gonna fail, let him fail. If I was an NFL GM, I would love someone like Tebow. You can't teach hard work and determination. Tebow comes in and wins games and then gets benched. It's mind boggling when you think of guys like Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, etc (the list is endless) who were given start after start after start even while they were losing. I mean, did Tebow fuck all of these coaches wives or something? Let the guy play. If he fails, it's over and we don't have to hear about it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacYou think so? Tough to replicate the season manning had but if anyone could have done it the same or better it would have been TebowQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
PFF choses Russell Wilson as offensive and overall Rookie of the year. Followed by RG3 then Morris.
Casey Hayward wins defensive Rookie of the Year followed by Wagner then Harrison Smith.
The top 2 rookies both with WI ties.
Personally I think its Luck followed really closely by RG3. No one has done more for their team then Luck, and they didnt have to build the offense around him like they did with RG3 and somewhat Wilson. His team had the 1st pick for a reason they were awful. Wash wasnt that bad, and Seattle was light years ahead of both teams. Wilson has done great but hes not the reason they win.
Luck has some pretty good weapons around him. Ever hear of Reggie Wayne? T.Y. Hilton?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
Indy had the first pick cause they tanked all season and played Curtis Painter.
Luck is at least 5th or 6th for me. Wilson, RG3, Martin, Morris, and Kuechly all better rookie seasons than luck IMO
Luck has been very good I just think statistically every other one of these guys graded better than him.
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Who graded them you? Im more then happy to post pffs grades for them. I know Kuechly didnt grade well at all. Hes a good player but he just has a bunch of tackles because no one else on his team can tackle.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacLuck has some pretty good weapons around him. Ever hear of Reggie Wayne? T.Y. Hilton?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
Indy had the first pick cause they tanked all season and played Curtis Painter.
Luck is at least 5th or 6th for me. Wilson, RG3, Martin, Morris, and Kuechly all better rookie seasons than luck IMO
Luck has been very good I just think statistically every other one of these guys graded better than him.
Plus even if he didnt grade out as well which Ill check in a bit he does so much more then that. He doesnt have the talent around him and the defense that gives him the ball with good field position. He doesnt throw the rinky dink passes RG3 and Wilson throw. Its a more high variance style.
Reggie Wayne is no doubt a weapon but all the others are rookies, and they might be having good years because he has to throw them the ball because of all the attn RW gets. RW can only get so many catches someone else has to get em.
He has to win the games for them. He cant rely on his defense shutting down the opposing offense like RW can. He has to take more chances because of this. Its not something you can measure with stats. I highly doubt if you put RG3 or RW on the Colts and told them to do exactly what Luck does that they would even come close to him.
I'd have no argument with RG3 winning it because hes deserving, but I think Luck is more valuable to his team then the other 2.
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Originally Posted by ShadyJWho graded them you? Im more then happy to post pffs grades for them. I know Kuechly didnt grade well at all. Hes a good player but he just has a bunch of tackles because no one else on his team can tackle.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
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Originally Posted by chinamaniacLuck has some pretty good weapons around him. Ever hear of Reggie Wayne? T.Y. Hilton?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
Indy had the first pick cause they tanked all season and played Curtis Painter.
Luck is at least 5th or 6th for me. Wilson, RG3, Martin, Morris, and Kuechly all better rookie seasons than luck IMO
Luck has been very good I just think statistically every other one of these guys graded better than him.
Im suprised that Martin didnt get more talk. I think he was the best rookie back.
Just looked up Kuechly hes +5.3 overall +8.9 vs the run and -1.2 pass rush and -4 in coverage. His name shouldnt even be brought up Wagner had a much better year at the same position. Wagner was +16 overall +11.7 vs the run +2.9 in pass rush and +0.9 in coverage. Obviously PFF isnt the end all but its the best we have to look at, and in this case Wagner crushes Kuechly.
Its true the overall D was rated -44.8 compared to the top rated team Denver at +117Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac:lol2Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
Which rankings were those? DVOA has Carolina's D as 11th best.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJIts true the overall D was rated -44.8 compared to the top rated team Denver at +117Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvo...2-dvoa-ratings
Also of note is SEA being 1 overall, and top 4 in all 3 aspects of the game. Also Indy at 25 lol. Luckiest season ever.
Prob just a coincidence that he led the country in tackles as a true freshman, then a sophmore and then a junior and jumped to the pros with the best players in the world and led the NFL in tacklesQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJIts true the overall D was rated -44.8 compared to the top rated team Denver at +117Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
I said going into the draft that Kuechly was going to be the steal of the draft. His combine numbers were off the charts, and he proved it in college plus hes really smart. There was talk at the time that he might drop into the 20s, and I thought it was because hes white. I think if he was black he would have been a top 5-6 pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacProb just a coincidence that he led the country in tackles as a true freshman, then a sophmore and then a junior and jumped to the pros with the best players in the world and led the NFL in tacklesQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
That doesnt change the fact that he didnt grade well this year. He started playing outside where he was lost, and when he went inside he played much better. Theres always something to be said about having alot of tackles, but hes graded negatively rushing the passer and alot worse in coverage.
Im not talking about overall rankings like so and so gives up 200 yards a game. Im talking about PFF where they grade every player on every play for every game. Its the best grading system us lay men can use. Its not perfect in fact I think sometimes their biased towards certain teams. They love SF and V Davis would get 1 catch a game and they acted like hes the second coming of Christ. I couldnt play him in Fantasy but he was God to them. I dont care how good a TE blocks he has to catch the ball to be considered better then the Grahms, Gonzalezs, Gronks, but they didnt think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutWhich rankings were those? DVOA has Carolina's D as 11th best.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvo...2-dvoa-ratings
Also of note is SEA being 1 overall, and top 4 in all 3 aspects of the game. Also Indy at 25 lol. Luckiest season ever.
I am placing my entire bankroll on Seattle at -3 this weekend.
Redskins can beat the the Cowboys(when it's handed to them) but will be no match for RWI
Too much?
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Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsToo much?
Thats the best. Hopefully its in Wash or the value has plummeted.
What if Seattle wins by 1 or 2? Then your a broke genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny
RUSSEL IS GOD
Only reason they won was cause of RG3 getting hurt. Skins win by 7 if his knee doesnt buckle.
With that said, Seattle is +1 which is insane imo. Even more crazy is that the Packers are +3.
I think a parlay between those 2 is golden.
say IF IF IF all you want, If the hawks didnt turn it over they would have won by 30Quote:
Originally Posted by OSA
Congrats Tony and other Seahawk fans.