*** OFFICIAL *** 2015 MLB Thread

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Originally Posted by simpdog

"If they have a problem with me throwing inside, then they can meet me 60 feet, 6 inches away," Syndergaard said. "I've got no problem with that."

Would be more interesting if that was game 1. Could have been an entirely different series if the Mets won game 1 and got in the Royals' heads.

Any odds on there being a bean ball in today's game?

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Yeah, Mets tough guys. Shortstop in a cast and nothin vs Dodgers

Thought I heard last night that Thor squats 500lbs but no one else on his team would have his back.

Tonight is a mess. gonna skip

I heard he dl 605lbs
Hosmer or moustakas would fuck him up regardless of how much weight he can lift
Or they could just send Perez the tank after him

Has anyone seen a baseball player try to fight? No one has Kyle Farnsworth so they should all STFU and play.

Farnsworth charges the plate...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mt0_0k40t4

What a team
Congrats sizzle

What an epic error that was. From hero to goat. Mets are obv toast. You don't come back from a 14 inning loss in game 1 and that error in game 4. Just doesn't happen.

Mets' terrible bullpen responsible for losing this World Series.

That, and Daniel Murphy became human again.

Amazing how mediocre this team looked once Murphy returned to earth (even with Granderson still hitting).

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Mets' terrible bullpen responsible for losing this World Series.

That, and Daniel Murphy became human again.

Amazing how mediocre this team looked once Murphy returned to earth (even with Granderson still hitting).

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Eat shit, you and your poor man's Dodgers bullshit. Suck that Royal dick bitch

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Mets' terrible bullpen responsible for losing this World Series.

That, and Daniel Murphy became human again.

Amazing how mediocre this team looked once Murphy returned to earth (even with Granderson still hitting).

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Eat shit, you and your poor man's Dodgers bullshit. Suck that Royal dick bitch

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Fake Dodgers, not poor man's Dodgers.

Get it right.

Congrats on the WS win and the bet, JSearles.

I don't really follow baseball anymore and have never bet a baseball future, but why in the hell were last year's pennant winners 33-1 to win?

Is this a relatively normal future for a team that could have been perceived as fluky (last year) or was it massively disrespectful?

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

It sounds like to me Gut simply has an AL/NL bias

KC is quite clearly the best team in baseball. Best D by far, best base running, best bullpen. Bullpen is so good and so deep that it's not even fair. Like historically good. 3 gold gloves last year, could be 5 this year easily. The problem last year was the offense. Guess what, now they're best in the AL, without Rios for a chunk this year. And our SP has been mediocre to bad. But Volquez is on track, Ventura was Ace last night. Rios is almost back. If the SP improves even slightly, the league is fucked.

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Druff accuses me of bias? Poor mans Dodgers? Fuck off faggot. How about you dispute any of the facts I presented? Tell me what I'm wrong about?

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Hmmm, seems cogent

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe

Congrats on the WS win and the bet, JSearles.

I don't really follow baseball anymore and have never bet a baseball future, but why in the hell were last year's pennant winners 33-1 to win?

Is this a relatively normal future for a team that could have been perceived as fluky (last year) or was it massively disrespectful?

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Baseball pundits had us winning 71 games these year. I think it's the style, baseball purists see it as fluky or unsustainable. Which is odd because the Royals play pure baseball IMO.

But I'd agree with the massively disrespectful line

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe

Congrats on the WS win and the bet, JSearles.

I don't really follow baseball anymore and have never bet a baseball future, but why in the hell were last year's pennant winners 33-1 to win?

Is this a relatively normal future for a team that could have been perceived as fluky (last year) or was it massively disrespectful?

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Baseball pundits had us winning 71 games these year. I think it's the style, baseball purists see it as fluky or unsustainable. Which is odd because the Royals play pure baseball IMO.

But I'd agree with the massively disrespectful line

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Your face is a massively disrespectful line

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe

Congrats on the WS win and the bet, JSearles.

I don't really follow baseball anymore and have never bet a baseball future, but why in the hell were last year's pennant winners 33-1 to win?

Is this a relatively normal future for a team that could have been perceived as fluky (last year) or was it massively disrespectful?

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Baseball pundits had us winning 71 games these year. I think it's the style, baseball purists see it as fluky or unsustainable. Which is odd because the Royals play pure baseball IMO.

But I'd agree with the massively disrespectful line

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I don't bet much baseball anymore but 33-1 or whatever was a great price for the Royals. Enjoy the parade etc

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Say anything critical about the Royals, and searles acts like you just insulted his momma.

First off, you're incorrect about Cueto/Hamels. Cueto is the better pitcher. Do you realize that Cueto's WORST season in the last 5 years was 2013, where he had a 2.82 ERA and missed most of the year with injury? He hasn't had an ERA above 3.00 since 2010. He hasn't lost more than 9 games since 2009. He pitched half his games in a ballpark that favors hitters. He's only 29 years old. 4 of the last 5 years he's had a WHIP under 1.100. Hamels has finished with below a 3.00 ERA only twice in his 10 year career, and his WHIP has been over 1.100 in eight of those ten years. So no question Cueto is better, and you have no clue.

Cueto is also better because the broke ass Royals can't afford Hamels (who has a few years left on his contract), while Cueto is just a rental. So they went with the rental.

And now you're trumpeting Edinson Volquez?

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You mean him of the 4.30 career ERA and the 1.433 career WHIP? LOL. Yeah, good luck with him keeping up his past 1 1/2 seasons in the long term. Hilarious that you think he's replacing Shields.

Bottom line is that your team won fewer than 89 games, and ALMOST won the World Series thanks to an improbable late season hot streak. Too bad ALMOST doesn't count.

Good luck riding Edinson Volquez to erase the ALMOST this year.

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I understand it hurts that the small market broke ass Royals have had more playoff success than the might Dodgers over the last 30 years. I get it Druff. It hurts

I said Volquez has been better than Shields was last year. Do you dispute that? Of course you can't.

Last longer bet?

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Damn I forgot how hard I pwned you. You were wrong about literally every single point.

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Originally Posted by Druff

Good luck riding Edinson Volquez to erase the ALMOST this year.

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lol, thanks!

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Originally Posted by simpdog

good value but KC ain't winning shit all.

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Originally Posted by gut

What kills me is seeing these managers in 2015 who still have no clue about ideal lineup optimization. Two of the biggest offenders are the teams talked about frequently in this thread, the Royals and Dodgers. Yost and Mattingly are setting their lineups like its 1985. Primarily, they seem to ignore OBP and just put a speedy guy batting leadoff.

The Dodgers were fine for parts of the season with Joc hitting 1st. The decision to switch back to Rollins is mind-boggling, with dropping Joc to 8th! Obviously Mattingly did that when Joc's 1980's baseball card stats were in a slump....but he was still getting on base at a tremendous clip! joc's OBP is .358 now, for comparison Adrian Gonzalez is at .361...and he is in no danger of being dropped in the order. Rollins meanwhile, has been horrible no matter what stats you use. Donnie Baseball would still rather see Rollins pick up ~30-50 more PA's than Joc the rest of the way though. Makes no sense at all.

Royals have been doing it all year with Escobar (career .648 OPS) leading off. The guy should be no higher than 7th in that order. Even better, I seem to recall Lorenzo Cain being the leadoff guy for awhile the last couple years. Made sense again in the traditional old views, fast speedy guy. Then he hit his prime at the plate, became a more complete hitter, improved at just about everything....and Yost drops him down in the order to give more at bats to the SS who cant get on base.

Look at the surging Blue Jays for the counterpoint. After their deadline moves they basically decided to put their best 4 hitters 1-4...so you got Tulo, Donaldson, Bautista, Encarnacion. They even have 2 speedy OF's in Pillar and Revere....1 of those 2 would surely be batting leadoff for Yost. Tampa, oakland, St Louis, Arizona are other teams who are usually great with their lineups, my Twins have been much better this year as well with Molitor as the manager and dinosaur Gardenhire gone.

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Yeah, Escobar at the top was a horrible idea.....

The above posts were why I was rooting for the Mets to win this thing, even though I typically root against the team who beat the Dodgers.

I knew jsearles would be unbearable. Instead of simply enjoying his team winning the World Series after 30 years, he actually scanned this long thread to respond to months-old posts criticizing the Royals. Unbelievable.

Oh, and Volquez did have a very unspectacular season. 3.55 ERA and 1.308 WHIP is nothing to get excited about, especially in 2015 when pitching numbers overall are far better than they used to be.

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

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Originally Posted by simpdog

good value but KC ain't winning shit all.

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Nice work Sizzler. This was prior to them playing the Jays way to take it out of context.

I knew the Royals would win the series. And my sportsbook account will now be emptied.

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Oops

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Nice work Sizzler. This was prior to them playing the Jays way to take it out of context.

I knew the Royals would win the series. And my sportsbook account will now be emptied.

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That's not exactly out of context.........

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Mets' terrible bullpen responsible for losing this World Series.

That, and Daniel Murphy became human again.

Amazing how mediocre this team looked once Murphy returned to earth (even with Granderson still hitting).

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The Mets pitching quieted the Dodger's bats. If Mets defense was mediocre, Dodgers didn't make enough contact to exploit that.

Mediocre was exactly the Dodgers except for 2 starting pitchers. How many did Mets have?

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go cubs!

Cubs have a lot of k.c royals in them but even more talent which is scary cus the royals are amazing.

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Cubs have a lot of k.c royals in them but even more talent which is scary cus the royals are amazing.

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I dont know how you can say they are amazing when they should have lost 4-2 or 4-1 against any competent baseball team in the Mets position

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Cubs have a lot of k.c royals in them but even more talent which is scary cus the royals are amazing.

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I dont know how you can say they are amazing when they should have lost 4-2 or 4-1 against any competent baseball team in the Mets position

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:wtf

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Cubs have a lot of k.c royals in them but even more talent which is scary cus the royals are amazing.

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I dont know how you can say they are amazing when they should have lost 4-2 or 4-1 against any competent baseball team in the Mets position

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Lol yeah, they just got lucky.Luck drove them all the way to game 7 of world series last year. Lucky team I geuss

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Mets' terrible bullpen responsible for losing this World Series.

That, and Daniel Murphy became human again.

Amazing how mediocre this team looked once Murphy returned to earth (even with Granderson still hitting).

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The Mets pitching quieted the Dodger's bats. If Mets defense was mediocre, Dodgers didn't make enough contact to exploit that.

Mediocre was exactly the Dodgers except for 2 starting pitchers. How many did Mets have?

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The Dodgers would have won Game 5 with even the slightest bit of situational hitting. They blew the last ELEVEN at bats with runners in scoring position. 11!!! And they still only lost 3-2.

The Mets won the Dodgers series because Daniel Murphy was off the hook plus the Dodgers spun their wheels with runners in scoring position. In low scoring affairs like we saw with Mets-Dodgers, having one player hitting a home run each game is huge, especially when on top of another player hitting really well (Granderson). The Dodgers only had one hitter to answer that in Justin Turner, who hit .500 in the series.

I'm not making excuses for the Dodgers here. They beat themselves, especially in Game 5.

I'm saying that the Mets had a crappy bullpen even in that series, but they squeaked by in the closest possible fashion (a one-run win in the deciding game where they otherwise didn't pitch well) thanks to the Dodgers' failures.

The dodgers seem to lack heart, and team unity.Don't underestimate heart ,and a team that plays as one, combined ,those two combos crush talent, and if you have all 3, well , then you win multiple world series titles.

When you have the highest payroll in MLB, and your best hitter all year is a 30yr old journeyman who is not even arb. eligible yet, that does not bode well for postseason success.

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When you have the highest payroll in MLB, and your best hitter all year is a 30yr old journeyman who is not even arb. eligible yet, that does not bode well for postseason success.

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53 mill on Kershaw + Greinke was well worth it.

Other than that, not so much.

Just driving home from the rally. Initial estimates of 800,000+

http://youtu.be/NQsmfC5UTCQ

I was curious what Jonny Gomes act would look like after the Royals won. Gomes went full retard after the Red Sox won in 2013.

The attention stealing red, white & blue suit at White House. Calm down fag (flag).

The Red Sox were very similar in 2013. Deep roster of something less than super stars - but a team. Don't make it about you dude.


The Royals were very much the team too. Would a guy who wasn't even on the active playoff roster try to steal the spotlight again?

Really interesting to see the credit he has gotten for coaching the kids up. Looks like he knows his role too.

Pretty soon he'll be free to interview for the Dodgers manager opening. Introduce the alien concept of team.

Loved the vid.

Greinke opts out for realz.

All the big spenders licking their chops. This year it's possible to buy two #1 aces. No BOGO deals though it will cost you 50-60mill per year.

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Greinke opts out for realz.

All the big spenders licking their chops. This year it's possible to buy two #1 aces. No BOGO deals though it will cost you 50-60mill per year.

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There is more than 2 on the market. Off the top of my head I can think of Greinke, Price, and Cueto.

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Greinke opts out for realz.

All the big spenders licking their chops. This year it's possible to buy two #1 aces. No BOGO deals though it will cost you 50-60mill per year.

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So a Pakistani Muslin who once played little league sits down with his slide rule to discuss the merits of a big dollar signing with some guy who worked for Tampa Bay.

You know who opts out next? Yup, Kershaw 2018.

Given where the Toronto Blue Jays were with contracts and talent they realized this was a great spot to take a run at a ring. I respect the will to win.

The Dodgers either lacked the front office talent or heart and passed in July. Maybe they felt they were further away than just a starter like Price and some bullpen help. But their window was closing.

They are gonna make the same foolish value decisions with their big wallets the Red Sox have, especially post Epstein. Remember this guy Zaidi nursed a the tit of Billy Beane in Oakland. His introduction to the game was not high school baseball but subscribing to Beane's Abstract in high school.

Personally, the greatest story would be Theo Epstein SPENDING the Ricketts money. Yeah, your gonna spill some with a 32 year old. But the Ricketts are committed to winning. When that family speaks, I believe them.

Cubs got Madden. Dodgers .... prolly Gabe Kapler.... their choice will no doubt stun you.

Good luck with your rebuilding years.

Apparently, the Dodgers gave Kirk Gibson an interview. lol If ownership picks the manager, they may be fucked.

Also, I think Jordan Zimmerman is the sleeper starter this year.

Starting Pitchers

Brett Anderson (28)
Bronson Arroyo (39) – $11MM club option with a $4.5MM buyout
Brandon Beachy (29) – $3MM club option
Chad Billingsley (31)
Joe Blanton (35)
Mark Buehrle (37)
Trevor Cahill (28)
Chris Capuano (37)
Wei-Yin Chen (30)
Bartolo Colon (43)
Johnny Cueto (30)
Marco Estrada (32)
Doug Fister (32)
Yovani Gallardo (30)
Dillon Gee (30)
Zack Greinke (32)
Jeremy Guthrie (37)
J.A. Happ (33)
Aaron Harang (38)
Roberto Hernandez (35)
Rich Hill (36)
Hisashi Iwakuma (35)
Edwin Jackson (32)
Josh Johnson (32)
Scott Kazmir (32)
Kyle Kendrick (31)
Ian Kennedy (31)
John Lackey (37)
Mat Latos (28)
Mike Leake (28)
Cliff Lee (37)
Colby Lewis (36)
Tim Lincecum (32)
Kyle Lohse (37)
Shaun Marcum (34)

Justin Masterson (31)
Brandon Morrow (31)
Hector Noesi (29)
Sean O’Sullivan (28)
Bud Norris (31)
Mike Pelfrey (32)
David Price (30)
Jeff Samardzija (31)
Alfredo Simon (35)
Eric Stults (36)
Ryan Vogelsong (38)
Tsuyoshi Wada (35)
Randy Wolf (39)
Jerome Williams (34)
Chris Young (37)
Jordan Zimmermann (30)

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Apparently, the Dodgers gave Kirk Gibson an interview. lol If ownership picks the manager, they may be fucked.

Also, I think Jordan Zimmerman is the sleeper starter this year.

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I would like to see the Dodgers keep Greinke (provided they don't have to give him an insane contract) and sign Zimmerman.

If you're a big market team, you need to stop fucking around with Brett Anderson and Brandon McCarthy type signings and go for some of the big boys to establish a killer 1-2-3 rotation.

Dodgers essentially gave away Game 3 to the Mets because Anderson was awful (totally worn out) and Alex Wood was continuing to fight inconsistency.