But I have a god given right to bear arms, and it says this in the constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
I already answered this, there is no reasonable purpose for anything you’ve listed so no one would ever own them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
What you consider reasonable infringes my god given right. Or at least those rights given to me by the founding fathers.
*removes my tongue from cheek*
Why are these nut jobs not using bombs? Answer that please.
They could do even more damage and further their cause.
Making a bomb is not for the faint of heart.
Many bombers have been a victim of their own device.
In Canada AR15's are legal. But you have background checks, pyschiatric etc. and I think there is a 28 day time frame that successful applicants must wait through.
A month is a long time for someone who may be acting impusively.
Relativley few people require rifles (hunters) and zero per cent of them require semi-automatic action.
No one in a non military environment requires semi-automatic action.
It may make their hunt easier but it also enables the nut job
Find me actual people that believe what you’re saying and that have billions of dollars to buy nukes and you might have a point instead of a ridiculous argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_AusBut I have a god given right to bear arms, and it says this in the constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
What you consider reasonable infringes my god given right. Or at least those rights given to me by the founding fathers.
*removes my tongue from cheek*
i mean honestly people can make a few uncomfortable sacrifices now or they can wait until the government does what it does best; TSA II Electric Boogaloo where our police are fully militarized and have sweeping mandates and judges who dont sign warrants are replaced with ones who will.
also please understand; this is right around the corner. its not some abstract on the horizon, just beyond the curve of the earth. right now, people are making serious proposals to create rings of steel around _schools_ to protect them from.......
...........american citizens.
i suggest anyone crying foul on totally superficial privileges like owning military weapons consider whether or not its worth it.
Using the 2nd amendment as grounds to own an AR is just as ridiculous. Even more so as it's a disingenuous argument in todays modern world.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishFind me actual people that believe what you’re saying and that have billions of dollars to buy nukes and you might have a point instead of a ridiculous argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
Speaking of that 200 plus year old document. Here's the beginning of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Salty_AusUsing the 2nd amendment as grounds to own an AR is just as ridiculous. Even more so as it's a disingenuous argument in todays modern world.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
the right belongs to individuals, exclusively for self-defense in the home,[6][7][8][9] while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons
Talk about interpretations
I ain't no fore-father but I'd be willing to bet they would consider the AR-15 to be both dangerous and unusual
Even scholars struggle to interpret the 2nd amendment.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitlesSpeaking of that 200 plus year old document. Here's the beginning of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
the right belongs to individuals, exclusively for self-defense in the home,[6][7][8][9] while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons
Talk about interpretations
What's a militia or two between friends?
https://www.ocala.com/news/20190711/...ers-with-ar-15
You think this 61 year old man gets out alive without an AR15?
Who the hell Rob's a trailer on a giant lot. Seems much more targeted than random.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
That's called cherry picking and if you want to go there I would trade that guy's life with those of dozens/hundreds of innocent childrenQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
taken out by the same miracle machine.
Soft - cock should have had an m60 or a mini gun at every window... and he'd not be in hospital.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitlesThat's called cherry picking and if you want to go there I would trade that guy's life with those of dozens/hundreds of innocent childrenQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
taken out by the same miracle machine.
Cherry picking? Just because the national media doesn’t report stories on guns saving peoples lives doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitlesThat's called cherry picking and if you want to go there I would trade that guy's life with those of dozens/hundreds of innocent childrenQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
taken out by the same miracle machine.
Next thing you’ll tell me is cops only kill black people.
Yes that is the definition of cherry picking.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishCherry picking? Just because the national media doesn’t report stories on guns saving peoples lives doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Next thing you’ll tell me is cops only kill black people.
I've said it before I'll say it again....If this one type of weapon allows you to take out your prey with greather ease but also allows
some crazy to kill hundreds of innoncents as easily then I vote if off. I don't care one bit how better you can hunt or how often you face an incoming home invader. Get a different gun. Results will be the same
What kind of person feels their hunting prowess comes before the lives of children?
That invasion you threw in......was it just two people? How many shots are required? How many shots
do the invaders even expect? But all is good, just talk the families of those mowed down. Try that
Still holding on to the idea that if AR15s are made illegal that crazy people willing to commit mass murder will abid by that law huh? I really wish you were right, I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitlesYes that is the definition of cherry picking.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
I've said it before I'll say it again....If this one type of weapon allows you to take out your prey with greather ease but also allows
some crazy to kill hundreds of innoncents then I vote if off. I don't care one bit how better you can hunt or how often you face an incoming home invader. Get a different gun. Results will be the same
i fully admit that execution of any disarmament policy would have to be left to armed cyborgs.
Biden was talking about an attempted buy back but he admitted he wouldn’t forcefully take anyone’s gun with his plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Hey I didn't even say that. At the very least step up the controls. You are a de-regulated society and it's fucking you upQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishStill holding on to the idea that if AR15s are made illegal that crazy people willing to commit mass murder will abid by that law huh? I really wish you were right, I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
If everyone who applied for use of the AR-15 was Mr. America Hunter no problem. But when these weapons are available on a relative whim to Joe Crazy we see problems.
So if you the law abiding citizen is inconvenienced one day, one month, for the sake of others losing their lives it's absurd to not address it
And btw "illegal" points to purchaser. We're talking about big business here. Major bucks for the manufacurers etc.
They will still make a profit with guns of every other sort. They should be regulated from even selling.
Realize who really wins in this game
Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishBiden was talking about an attempted buy back but he admitted he wouldn’t forcefully take anyone’s gun with his plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
so the thing is, the first pass is going to be a red flag law, this is from trumps mouth. and no matter how you look at it, it starts with a knock on the door pretty much. a whoooole lot of those knocks are going to result in rounds in egress.
Cyborgs are people too!Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
so the thing is, the first pass is going to be a red flag law, this is from trumps mouth. and no matter how you look at it, it starts with a knock on the door pretty much. a whoooole lot of those knocks are going to result in rounds in egress.
To the fellow sitting on his mountain who happens to like guns... he sees it as tyranny.
You know Hitler took away guns? *laughs*
Old dude was targeted for sure. He recognized one of the invaders from a craigslist hookup.Quote:
Originally Posted by monsterjWho the hell Rob's a trailer on a giant lot. Seems much more targeted than random.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
Unless I read that wrong.