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As U.S. and European defense ties fray and German consumer manufacturing dies it looks like Germany and France are set to stimulate their economies with some homegrown deficit military industrial manufacturingQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I really never thought I’d see the day. We wish them well. As long as I’m not paying for it.
Vance and Trump yelling at Zelenskyy in a televised meeting.
I swear we are pulling out of NATO.
the world order since WWII is about to be flipped on its ear. no tears from me
I am getting taken to the woodshed on my defense gamble but who saw this coming
Zelensky kicked out of the White House... literally!!... Zelensky's grift is over!! Vance flat out told him, " when was the last time you told USA thank you"... shit was very heated!! Zelensky is a dead man walking and you could see it in this heated exchange live on tv!! he looked like he wanted to puke!!
I think that beating was scripted in the locker room. Trump loves drama and televisionQuote:
Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar
Trump saying Z misled us. The US overthrew his predecessor. We drove this conflict not the midget. I honestly don’t think Trump has any sense of the 30 years that preceded today’s meeting. I’m sure I’m right.
But you know what? I don’t care. None of these conflicts end well for anyone. Shit has to stop. Never thought I’d see the day
Zelenskyy will seek political exile in Miami and he’ll be fine.
Political junkies must be exhausted and it’s only been a month. Nothing like it ever.
@Sal, you are mostly correct, most people don't understand what started this whole thing including Trump, but all that doesn't matter at the moment because the peace keeper... DJT wants all this to end, the killing and all the USA taxpayer money grifted to Scamkraine, Zelensky interrupted Trump in the live pressor , that was all she wrote, Trump is right when he told Zelensky that he isn't holding any cards and if he was it's only from USA that he might hold some cards!! ... it was fucking epic... my jaw is still on the ground..!! no lies....
In the game of international chess he’s just opening with his Ukraine pawn.
He’s gonna improve relations with Russia. I’d rather that than each of us training 2000 missiles on one another. Building useless anti missile systems … all using our credit card.
He’s gonna quit NATO.
I can’t spin all the possible scenarios.
I swear establishment Washington DC is gonna want to take him out.
Trump told Zelensky, "look either you take the deal or we are out, this won't end well for you, and you will be left to fight it out without us" ... it was fucking epic!! Zelensky wasn't smart enough to shut his mouth.... again it looked like he was gonna puke!!! i will try and find the whole exchange via a YT video in a bit and post it here... Zelensky truly is a dead man walking, if he wants to save his own hide and the millions he stole from us he better take a deal and find refuge here in the US via the deal...
the peace keeper DJT truly understands that any more escalation probably leads to a nuclear WWW 3 ... and he ain't having it on his watch..!!
I like the idea of improved relations with the Russians as well. And yes, establishment in DC is going to and has wanted to take him out. The media is worked up into a frenzy and egging on revolt. They have every last intelligence "expert" who recently had security clearances revoked for signing the bogus letter about the laptop on cnn and msnbc making outrageous claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
A very stupid member of my family posted on facebook that she "stands" with Ukraine. TF does that even mean? These people wanting to FAFO with the Russians are helpless. Nobody who has ever been near a combat zone would be taking like this.
There's a lot of bad blood with Trump towards Zelenskyy too. It was because of Ukraine and his conversation with Zelenskyy that the 1st impeachment came about and we should all know by now that that was a miscarriage of justice. Its almost as if a million people are dead solely because of Hunter Biden.
Im loving like 90% of this first month+ so far of Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
NATO AMEREXIT is legit in the cards. Love it.
Enjoy the ride.
Trump is simply publicly humiliating the neocons’ golden child, Zelenskyy. One day Zelenskyy is speaking before congress and the next he’s getting berated like a child in the White House.Quote:
Originally Posted by country978I like the idea of improved relations with the Russians as well. And yes, establishment in DC is going to and has wanted to take him out. The media is worked up into a frenzy and egging on revolt. They have every last intelligence "expert" who recently had security clearances revoked for signing the bogus letter about the laptop on cnn and msnbc making outrageous claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
A very stupid member of my family posted on facebook that she "stands" with Ukraine. TF does that even mean? These people wanting to FAFO with the Russians are helpless. Nobody who has ever been near a combat zone would be taking like this.
There's a lot of bad blood with Trump towards Zelenskyy too. It was because of Ukraine and his conversation with Zelenskyy that the 1st impeachment came about and we should all know by now that that was a miscarriage of justice. Its almost as if a million people are dead solely because of Hunter Biden.
This was always the US vs Russia. Trump is going to end this miscarriage with as much fanfare and flair as is possible. He is entitled
Biden and Bush gonna have a meet up in hell sooner than later.
If we're actually paying attention to what's happening Obama has to be considered an abject failure as well. I realize trying to reflect all the way back to 2008-16 is hard for the kids nowadays but if we do that fairly we realize Obama did us less than no favors.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarTrump is simply publicly humiliating the neocons’ golden child, Zelenskyy. One day Zelenskyy is speaking before congress and the next he’s getting berated like a child in the White House.Quote:
Originally Posted by country978
This was always the US vs Russia. Trump is going to end this miscarriage with as much fanfare and flair as is possible. He is entitled
Biden and Bush gonna have a meet up in hell sooner than later.
Are the kids even being taught about this stuff anymore? Did they even process what happened in Afghanistan?
Imagine you were a kid born in ‘93. You develop some kind of awareness around 9/11. Tick thru the years until today. Kids have a fatalist attitude toward privacy, political moral turpitude, democracy and the economy. They distrust NFL referees’ impartiality.Quote:
Originally Posted by country978If we're actually paying attention to what's happening Obama has to be considered an abject failure as well. I realize trying to reflect all the way back to 2008-16 is hard for the kids nowadays but if we do that fairly we realize Obama did us less than no favors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Are the kids even being taught about this stuff anymore? Did they even process what happened in Afghanistan?
Afghanistan was their normal.
My kids are beyond getting riled up about any of this stuff. I try and they refuse to engage. They intuitively tune this garbage out. Apathy might be a fair description.
That is the permanent cost for shenanigans. An empire in decline
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Originally Posted by country978
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Originally Posted by TellafriendQuote:
Originally Posted by country978
Shit was staged to divert attention from Epstein files.
now Trump needs to do the same thing with Bibi of Israel, sadly that won't happen though....
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Originally Posted by Gordman
shut it down Gordo.
https://x.com/Rothmus/status/1895871864121278669
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Originally Posted by TellafriendQuote:
Originally Posted by Gordman
shut it down Gordo.
Why? Because I merely laughed at a nonsensical comment?
I barely even post here anymore as it is, but hey, whatever makes you feel better!
Get a fucking grip dude.