I thought his zombie like appearance was prob the result of Devil's Breath being blown in his face but coming off a high addy dose is pretty much the same look. It also explains him heading straight to McDonald's after.
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I thought his zombie like appearance was prob the result of Devil's Breath being blown in his face but coming off a high addy dose is pretty much the same look. It also explains him heading straight to McDonald's after.
There is this thing called the bill of rights that acts as a backdrop of support for the "gun industry". You are going to see the businessman who run the industry are going to start to support changes because they know the only way that a 2'd amendment repeal is happening would be for them to do exactly nothing the way things have been going. Kind of like how he cigarette manufacturers all of a sudden we're OK with the warning labels back in the 90's. They saw the writing on the wall too and they agreed to reign it in some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The gun industry is right that giving any concessions will open up a slippery slope where more and more restrictive laws get passed. That's typically what ends up happening regarding highly polarizing issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeas far as stricter gun control legislation, without trump's leadership, the answer is probably nothing because it's not in the GOP interests to pass anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyI'm not going to argue the trend. But now is not 10 years from now and a constitutional amendment just isn't on the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
So with that in mind - what can be done now.
i'm talking even sensible things that most gun owners believe in like raising the age of buying AR-15's from 18 to to 21 (like handguns) and more extensive screenings. the NRA is convinced that the slightest encroachment on gun rights will ultimately trickle down to banning guns completely (of course, they're right) so it's really hard to do anything.
if trump, himself, pushed stricter gun laws, he could get anything done he wanted to imo
we also need to seriously rework our mental health laws, including when you can institutionalize someone or subject them to enhanced scrutiny. both dems and republicans will have issues with this, but it's overdue.
as far as a non-legislative thing, i want the national guard in every fucking school in the country.
Think of the gay/transgender laws over the past 15 years. First it was civil unions. Then it was gay marriage. Then it was trans bathroom rights. Then it was "discrimination" laws in some areas where someone's preferred pronouns aren't used. Had it started in 2002 with, "Transgender people need to be able to use their bathroom of choice, and employers who refuse to use their preferred pronoun can be civilly liable for discriminatory behavior", almost nobody would have gone for this.
So often these things really do happen in phases, and those conceding moderately often ask themselves, "WTF just happened?" when it's all over.
I find it realistic that gun laws may go the same way.
What we need would be some sort of promise from the left to the gun industry (and gun rights advocates) of, "If you pass XXXX change, we promise not to pursue YYYY."
Of course that's not binding, but it's something the gun industry can use in their own defense if that promise is ever broken.
Constitutions which historically guaranteed a right to bear arms are those of Bolivia, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, Liberia, Mexico, Nicaragua and the United States of America.
:lol
Also of all those countries the USA is the only one to not have restrictions in their constitution.
Imagine thinking that a fatal shooting is a reasonable response to a burglary.
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Originally Posted by MrTickle
No shit just shoot the guys legs or arms and he's down.
My finger is closer to the butthole than the pulse but it feels more and more like any day now, or at least after the next shooting, actual upstanding republicans are gonna start claiming "false flag" or "hoax" and upstanding democrats are gonna claim the Alexa Miednik's of the world are Russian Sleeper Agents planted and waiting to lie and twist narratives. My house of cards psyche probably won't make it through that bull shit. If so it was nice knowing yall. I will try to remain hopeful the ends justify the means but shit seems pretty Steve Bleako.
#cryfreedom
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Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
Riveting. Really. That notwithstanding, show me where I am wrong. You know, it's not like anyone would have looked into any of these mass murder's backgrounds after their killing sprees or anything. What a clown you are.
I'm all for gun control.
The 2nd Amendment guarantees the right to own a gun, but it does *not* provide gun manufacturers and dealers immunity from civil liability when guns they sell are used in crimes. The GOP, however, enshrined that right, albeit with an exception, into federal law in 2005 with the passage of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA).Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyThere is this thing called the bill of rights that acts as a backdrop of support for the "gun industry". You are going to see the businessman who run the industry are going to start to support changes because they know the only way that a 2'd amendment repeal is happening would be for them to do exactly nothing the way things have been going. Kind of like how he cigarette manufacturers all of a sudden we're OK with the warning labels back in the 90's. They saw the writing on the wall too and they agreed to reign it in some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffThe gun industry is right that giving any concessions will open up a slippery slope where more and more restrictive laws get passed. That's typically what ends up happening regarding highly polarizing issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeas far as stricter gun control legislation, without trump's leadership, the answer is probably nothing because it's not in the GOP interests to pass anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyI'm not going to argue the trend. But now is not 10 years from now and a constitutional amendment just isn't on the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
So with that in mind - what can be done now.
i'm talking even sensible things that most gun owners believe in like raising the age of buying AR-15's from 18 to to 21 (like handguns) and more extensive screenings. the NRA is convinced that the slightest encroachment on gun rights will ultimately trickle down to banning guns completely (of course, they're right) so it's really hard to do anything.
if trump, himself, pushed stricter gun laws, he could get anything done he wanted to imo
we also need to seriously rework our mental health laws, including when you can institutionalize someone or subject them to enhanced scrutiny. both dems and republicans will have issues with this, but it's overdue.
as far as a non-legislative thing, i want the national guard in every fucking school in the country.
Think of the gay/transgender laws over the past 15 years. First it was civil unions. Then it was gay marriage. Then it was trans bathroom rights. Then it was "discrimination" laws in some areas where someone's preferred pronouns aren't used. Had it started in 2002 with, "Transgender people need to be able to use their bathroom of choice, and employers who refuse to use their preferred pronoun can be civilly liable for discriminatory behavior", almost nobody would have gone for this.
So often these things really do happen in phases, and those conceding moderately often ask themselves, "WTF just happened?" when it's all over.
I find it realistic that gun laws may go the same way.
What we need would be some sort of promise from the left to the gun industry (and gun rights advocates) of, "If you pass XXXX change, we promise not to pursue YYYY."
Of course that's not binding, but it's something the gun industry can use in their own defense if that promise is ever broken.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prot...ct?wprov=sfti1
(The families of those kids in Florida wish to thank all of the voters who contributes to electing into office a NRA-controlled federal government.)
Max Power is seldomly wrong, especially when it comes to MCEC's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
- the shooter was living with a man with a career in military intelligence
- father of Cameron Kasky, a student who survived the shooting & is now anti-gun activist, works for the FBI
- FBI failed to investigate the shooter
- shooting took place in Debbie Wasserman Shultz's district
Fucking Mossad.
(((again)))
Good god this is getting embarrassing, your shtick was never funny to begin with, take a fuckin breather man.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
This is what brainwashed looks like adamantium.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamantiumGood god this is getting embarrassing, your shtick was never funny to begin with, take a fuckin breather man.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
The attention you just gave him sponsored his next ten shitposts.
How can I show where you're wrong when it's just your opinion without any facts to back it up?Quote:
Originally Posted by TellafriendQuote:
Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
Riveting. Really. That notwithstanding, show me where I am wrong. You know, it's not like anyone would have looked into any of these mass murder's backgrounds after their killing sprees or anything. What a clown you are.
All I know is doing absolutely nothing will cause the status quo to continue & school shootings will continue at rates nobody wants. All I'm saying is they have to try something whether you personally think it's window dressing or not.
Not sure why you're taking such offense to my original comment. Something has to be done & you seem to be defending the status quo.
Guess what those states don't have.
They also have more bears than people.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Guess what those states don't have.
Which maybe, and I know I'm crazy here, gun laws should be a state issue and not federal.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerThey also have more bears than people.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Guess what those states don't have.
If Illinois wants to make every gun except for the most basic .22 illegal they should and in some ways I wouldn't blame them. If Idaho wants to make fully automatic AK's legal why the hell not.
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Originally Posted by DalyWhich maybe, and I know I'm crazy here, gun laws should be a state issue and not federal.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
If Illinois wants to make every gun except for the most basic .22 illegal they should and in some ways I wouldn't blame them. If Idaho wants to make fully automatic AK's legal why the hell not.
What prevents them becoming gun buying tourism spots for fully automatic Ak-47s? We going to start checkpoints on every border? And what happens to your adopted state that is often GOP-heavy state legislature while also being full of insane people and demographically challenged? That school shooting in Parkland has a body count of 125?
Fun?Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Guess what those states don't have.
What is the white to non white ratio?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerThey also have more bears than people.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Guess what those states don't have.
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Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's ClitFun?Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Guess what those states don't have.
too easy
Imagine thinking that you should ignore the intense danger to you and your family from a freak breaking into your house, and not shooting him because you are concerned for the invader's health.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTickle
I would feel zero guilt about shooting dead anyone who broke in here.
Have you not read the various headlines regarding deadly home invasions?
Unfortunately you cannot read the mind of a home invader, so killing them is the only reasonable option.
There is respectable scholar empirical research that shows that nighttime home invasions are much more common per capita in the UK versus the US, while daytime burglaries occur at rate in the US than in the UK. Guess which country has stricter gun ownership laws?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffImagine thinking that you should ignore the intense danger to you and your family from a freak breaking into your house, and not shooting him because you are concerned for the invader's health.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTickle
I would feel zero guilt about shooting dead anyone who broke in here.
Have you not read the various headlines regarding deadly home invasions?
Unfortunately you cannot read the mind of a home invader, so killing them is the only reasonable option.
That being said, a woman in the US is about 4 times more likely to be killed by her partner if there is a gun in the home. Those results, however, could be driven largely by selection bias, meaning ownership of a gun by a woman's partner is a strong signal of greater likely of eventual homicidal domestic violence regardless of how easy owning a gun makes it possible to commit.
i'm assuming you meant at "a higher" rate in the US than in the UK with respect to daytime burglaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyThere is respectable scholar empirical research that shows that nighttime home invasions are much more common per capita in the UK versus the US, while daytime burglaries occur at rate in the US than in the UK. Guess which country has stricter gun ownership laws?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
doesn't your argument support druff's position that prevalent residential gun ownership acts as a deterrent? as a liberal, i assume you were attempting to disagree
blake theres two nhl contests waiting for you i literally made two lineups so u can lose twice
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Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyThere is respectable scholar empirical research that shows that nighttime home invasions are much more common per capita in the UK versus the US, while daytime burglaries occur at rate in the US than in the UK. Guess which country has stricter gun ownership laws?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
That being said, a woman in the US is about 4 times more likely to be killed by her partner if there is a gun in the home. Those results, however, could be driven largely by selection bias, meaning ownership of a gun by a woman's partner is a strong signal of greater likely of eventual homicidal domestic violence regardless of how easy owning a gun makes it possible to commit.
Your statement regarding the US versus UK nighttime home invasions would support gun ownership.
They would indicate that burglars are more willing to encounter a homeowner in the UK, where a gun isn't expected to be there, than in the US -- a place they might get shot by the homeowner!
Instead, they are breaking into homes while people are away at work and school during the day!
Did you mean to support gun ownership by your post? Because whether you meant it or not, you just did.
Larry Laffer if you "Suicide by Druff" I will never let them talk shit about you.
Can't get on a plane with a AK last I checked.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCRQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
What prevents them becoming gun buying tourism spots for fully automatic Ak-47s? We going to start checkpoints on every border? And what happens to your adopted state that is often GOP-heavy state legislature while also being full of insane people and demographically challenged? That school shooting in Parkland has a body count of 125?
I presented information that both supports liberal gun ownership laws, as well as speaks against it. Because, as neither dogmatic sides of this issue want to openly it, gun rights is a multifaceted issue. It both creates and mitigates various risks. The greater question is which risks are we collectively willing to put up with in order to reduce others. And which legal measures, i.e. what combination of criminal and civil laws, would be best to strike that tradeoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadly
Your statement regarding the US versus UK nighttime home invasions would support gun ownership.
They would indicate that burglars are more willing to encounter a homeowner in the UK, where a gun isn't expected to be there, than in the US -- a place they might get shot by the homeowner!
Instead, they are breaking into homes while people are away at work and school during the day!
Did you mean to support gun ownership by your post? Because whether you meant it or not, you just did.
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Originally Posted by DalyCan't get on a plane with a AK last I checked.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
Don't need to in 3 of the 4 highlighted states on that map to be in major metropolitan areas.
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Originally Posted by BCRQuote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Don't need to in 3 of the 4 highlighted states on that map to be in major metropolitan areas.
And remember guys. Uber will pick your crazy looking ass up deliver you and your gas mask, bullet proof vest, multiple clips, magazine, and easily concealable AR-15 and take you right to Antifa headquarters AKA Freshman Building of a high school and tell the rider to knock em dead.
My favorite part as of the last time I tortured myself with this shit, is that the FBI supposedly still hasn't been able to link Cruz to those youtube threats. They prob think it's so funny when they tell the truth that no one would ever believe. I guess they have to make people believe they couldn't really find Bin Laden somehow. My second favorite part is how Cruz used multiple burner phones and went to a great extent to hide his identity in other ways all along leading up to this including bogus IPs and covering his face with masks in the pictures on his Instagram account. Oh but wait... his instagram account was NikolasCruzMakarov... and he signed his youtube threats with the name Nikolas Cruz.
This is the problem with liberals and gun control. In the biggest gun control city in the county this is what cook country does with criminals caught with illegal guns: http://www.cwbchicago.com/2018/02/mo...t-how.html?m=1
What a joke.
No, you presented a statement with no data to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyI presented information that both supports liberal gun ownership laws, as well as speaks against it. Because, as neither dogmatic sides of this issue want to openly it, gun rights is a multifaceted issue. It both creates and mitigates various risks. The greater question is which risks are we collectively willing to put up with in order to reduce others. And which legal measures, i.e. what combination of criminal and civil laws, would be best to strike that tradeoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Originally Posted by DJ_ChapsNo, you presented a statement with no data to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadly
SOMEONE PRESENTED A STATEMENT IN CHAT LAST NIGHT ABOUT BANGING A CHUBBY ESKIMO ON HIS COUCH IN FRONT OF HIS WEBCAM BUT NEGLECTED TO BACK THAT UP AS WELL.
also if i take down the UCL dk contest im buying you a new cat because honestly youre just insufferable like this.
none of u guys would send me the 5 bucks it costed.
Are Chaps and Sonatine going steady?