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    So yea…

    https://twitter.com/HCLPokerShow/status/1623104013586796545

    Just caught Feldman on the pre game show. He alluded to the possibility a player leaked their announcement with PokerGo. But of course he says they are all good with PokerGo. Also, according to him the plan is for PokerGo to only stream the first 3 hours free on YouTube and then create produced shows down the line. Which is baffling and I would be extremely surprised if that plan doesn’t change. I think they are telling Ryan that’s the plan, but in the end they will stream the whole thing.

    Just don’t buy them streaming live for 3 hours and then totally cutting it off and then way down the line putting up produced shows. Terrible sales model. No urgency, so no reason for people to immediately subscribe. I think they will stream it all live but PokerGo has shit bed so many times before so who knows. But if they just stop the stream while these guys are playing they will just piss everyone off.

    Not to mention…

    https://twitter.com/GmanPoker/status/1623112333169139712

     
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    holy shit, nick vertucci sure is a super cool dude

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    Now I know why they call him Mike X and not Mike XL.

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    Feldman is great at what he does. No doubt about it. But I got to say with the pregame show and the 5 plus hour streams…there’s got to be some young men watching 40 hours plus a week. It’s just not healthy and it’s just too much. There is an inherent ceiling when it comes to poker programming. I think the same with these young guys who watch a streamer every fucking day for hours. Life is going to keep moving and their going to be stuck watching others evolve. I heard mention of post game shows. Where are we going? 10 hours a day?

    I guess I’m just thinking big picture. It’s just so much of a consumption of time. When you think about TV shows that lasted 10 plus seasons. They have these circular plots. The characters are developing, but slowly. The whole will they/won’t they get together shit. It’s not a movie that has set parameters. It’s going to get monotonous for Feldman because it’s consistency that’s rewarded. I would really say to both Nick & Ryan…chill out.

    I do think they may be trying to grow the shit out of it so they can sell it. But it’s clear that Feldman and his contacts/skill is the most important part of the brand by far. LATB has been laughable, even after it was bought by Ballys. It’s unwatchable. It’s why PokeGo was really the only viable alternative for Eric to build his game.

    This whole million dollar buyin in May…You can tell it’s a “If you announce it, they will come” Field a Dreams deal. But I just think they need to focus on what they have. There is hard ceiling and they basically have reached it. The creator game, if they get another, it will be big for a night. As for this photo shoot….next time I’m thinking a Clockwork Orange theme (Jockstrap and all).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Feldman is great at what he does. No doubt about it. But I got to say with the pregame show and the 5 plus hour streams…there’s got to be some young men watching 40 hours plus a week. It’s just not healthy and it’s just too much. There is an inherent ceiling when it comes to poker programming. I think the same with these young guys who watch a streamer every fucking day for hours. Life is going to keep moving and their going to be stuck watching others evolve. I heard mention of post game shows. Where are we going? 10 hours a day?

    I guess I’m just thinking big picture. It’s just so much of a consumption of time. When you think about TV shows that lasted 10 plus seasons. They have these circular plots. The characters are developing, but slowly. The whole will they/won’t they get together shit. It’s not a movie that has set parameters. It’s going to get monotonous for Feldman because it’s consistency that’s rewarded. I would really say to both Nick & Ryan…chill out.

    I do think they may be trying to grow the shit out of it so they can sell it. But it’s clear that Feldman and his contacts/skill is the most important part of the brand by far. LATB has been laughable, even after it was bought by Ballys. It’s unwatchable. It’s why PokeGo was really the only viable alternative for Eric to build his game.

    This whole million dollar buyin in May…You can tell it’s a “If you announce it, they will come” Field a Dreams deal. But I just think they need to focus on what they have. There is hard ceiling and they basically have reached it. The creator game, if they get another, it will be big for a night. As for this photo shoot….next time I’m thinking a Clockwork Orange theme (Jockstrap and all).
    they (nick and ryan) are the type of people that think others SHOULD be consuming content that they create for 10+ hours a day. lots of personality issues with these 2, which im sure you are aware of.

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    Persson shot off almost $1 million on a single hand, getting in most of it drawing dead.





     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Persson shot off almost $1 million on a single hand, getting in most of it drawing dead.




    These two have been shown as pretty chummy a few times on camera. Any chance this is all a ruse (pre-planned to give each their $ back if they get into a huge all in) for brand image building reasons?

    Personally, I think not --- but it's POSSIBLE I suppose.

    Weren't there rumors that Poker After Dark's wins/losses was settled for 1/10th the amounts actually won and lost after the show and that the pah-ticipants were simply playing "higher" on tv for the viewership?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Wars View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Persson shot off almost $1 million on a single hand, getting in most of it drawing dead.




    These two have been shown as pretty chummy a few times on camera. Any chance this is all a ruse (pre-planned to give each their $ back if they get into a huge all in) for brand image building reasons?

    Personally, I think not --- but it's POSSIBLE I suppose.

    Weren't there rumors that Poker After Dark's wins/losses was settled for 1/10th the amounts actually won and lost after the show and that the pah-ticipants were simply playing "higher" on tv for the viewership?
    Yes, I heard those Poker After Dark rumors, but they were never confirmed.

    I'm not sure if Persson wants to build the image of a donk, unless he thinks it's a way to get more action on his hands in the future? But I think he already well established that he gets his money in light.

    Persson is very obsessed with people admiring him and looking up to him. Very hard to believe he would knowingly play like a donk just to get people talking. But I guess it's possible.

    Maybe if he and Antonius were friends, they could have had an agreement to give each other back 90% of losses incurred heads up with one another, but I just don't see Patrik doing something like that. After all, that would be a form of collusion, and if it leaked out that they did this, his longstanding great rep would be ruined.

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    Im sure full tilt was paying everyone’s debts through infinite loans.

     
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    Sort of a Bump…

    To catch everyone up Mr Dr Batman was called a “Piece of Cheese” by Nick Vertucci a few months back and hasn’t been seen (to my knowledge) on any livestream since. Ironically, Mr Dr Batman did end up getting canceled from at least the Hustler Stream in the long run.

    Eric pulled out of the Million Dollar cash game a few months back and hasn’t appeared on Hustler since. Seems he is done with them. I think he still appears on PokerGo shows but most of them have been taped a while ago.

    Now Eric was supposed to start this Maverick room that was going to be a low stakes heaven. He announced on Twitter that is not happening. He says the reason will become apparent in time.

    https://twitter.com/IAmMaverick888/status/1725313487600267755

    However, he is still promoting the Bally’s stream tonight, which to my knowledge would still be located at the Tropicana. So what used to be Live at the Bike seems to be still working with Persson to get the stream going despite Persson’s deal with the Trop falling through. Guess this will sort out eventually.

    https://twitter.com/IAmMaverick888/status/1725562070211666411

    I watched a small snippet of this livestream a while back. It has gone off very sporadically. Thankfully Will Jaffe can once again collect a check for mailing it in. I would imagine he still keeps the commentating gig.

    I was struck by the total absence of Maverick branding despite Eric being on the stream. I figured it was just LATB being cheap and keeping that awful dark setup they had in LA. But now it seems the deal with Maverick Gaming and the Trop never got done.

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    poker players and the entire poker community for that matter are nothing but a collective of shallow gossip whores

    sewing circle of blame game look at what he did she said empty vessels

    I love poker for the game and the competitive element

    the gossip about this person and that person is pathetic

    played live poker literally once in the last 3 months because I can’t stomach surrounding myself with degenerate losers with no vision

    the entire poker community is populated by swine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    poker players and the entire poker community for that matter are nothing but a collective of shallow gossip whores

    sewing circle of blame game look at what he did she said empty vessels

    I love poker for the game and the competitive element

    the gossip about this person and that person is pathetic

    played live poker literally once in the last 3 months because I can’t stomach surrounding myself with degenerate losers with no vision

    the entire poker community is populated by swine
    The Poker “community” has more swine than the average. But I don’t know what “community” you can shine a black light on that isn’t going to have a shit ton of jizz stains in it.

    But this room being rebranded Maverick Gaming in Las Vegas and this new “low stakes” heaven abruptly not happening was certainly something at least worth a bump here. Even if it’s not of interest to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    poker players and the entire poker community for that matter are nothing but a collective of shallow gossip whores

    sewing circle of blame game look at what he did she said empty vessels

    I love poker for the game and the competitive element

    the gossip about this person and that person is pathetic

    played live poker literally once in the last 3 months because I can’t stomach surrounding myself with degenerate losers with no vision

    the entire poker community is populated by swine
    The Poker “community” has more swine than the average. But I don’t know what “community” you can shine a black light on that isn’t going to have a shit ton of jizz stains in it.

    But this room being rebranded Maverick Gaming in Las Vegas and this new “low stakes” heaven abruptly not happening was certainly something at least worth a bump here. Even if it’s not of interest to everyone.
    Saw Perrson on some HSP recently. My guess is the two fold. He’s busy with his noodle biz he’s been expanding in Vegas and 2 the donkey keeps shooting off so much cash he’s had to reign it in a little and doesn’t have the money to start up the card room right now.

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    During my Washington trip, I ended up staying right next to a Maverick room for one night. This wasn't on purpose, but rather something I happened to see as I was pulling into the parking lot of the hotel (which was NOT affiliated with the room or any casino).

    The place was a shithole.

    The area was also semi-lousy. I was staying there one night on the way somewhere else as part of a 10-day road trip, so the area didn't matter much to me, but it seemed worse than the area of the LA rooms I frequent (and those aren't in a good area, either!)

    Some of you might recall we had Batman on radio. I enjoyed having him on, and he even stuck around to co-host a little bit for other topics. He did admit that a lot of his stream personality was an act, and that indeed he was trying to get Persson to agree to start up a fake feud. At the same time, Persson WAY overreacted to Batman's antics.

    Persson just doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor. He seems to want constant respect, and can't laugh at himself. It's ironic, given that the public came to know him because he clowned Hellmuth playing heads up, and for once the amateur got the better of Phil in a battle of egos.

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    Also the Trop deal was so bizarre, given that the hotel is going to be closed and wrecked. Why establish a new poker room there? Never made sense.

    Maybe Persson realized this. Maybe he tried to negotiate a better deal for himself once the closure was announced, and they told him to stuff it.

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