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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    Robert Mueller offers Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort.

    Uhh...that's a bad look.
    seems like a pretty standard way of getting someone to testify without them being able to use the fifth amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    Robert Mueller offers Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort.

    Uhh...that's a bad look.


    I wouldn't afford any credence to what someone testifying under immunity has to say. This is dirty stuff. It won't end well for any of us.
    if you're suggesting trump will get impeached (and convicted), that will never ever happen. hard to imagine a republican senate convicting him for anything

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    who says there is no bias in the msm?


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    So Cohen was secretly recording his conversation with Trump about paying a whore off. A lawyer secretly recording his conversation with his client and is now negotiating using that against his client. Beautiful.

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    (S)oy vey.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    So Cohen was secretly recording his conversation with Trump about paying a whore off. A lawyer secretly recording his conversation with his client and is now negotiating using that against his client. Beautiful.

    All the best people.

     
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    Yes, the God King is an absolute lock in 2020...


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/237389/...mpaign=sharing

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    (S)oy vey.
    You fell for this?


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    So Cohen was secretly recording his conversation with Trump about paying a whore off. A lawyer secretly recording his conversation with his client and is now negotiating using that against his client. Beautiful.
    crazy. i know it’s an ethical violation for one attorney to tape record another. i’m assuming there’s similar rules regarding taping clients.

    also the fact that NY is a one-party consent state for secret tape recordings is terrible. every state should require two party consent. what cohen did would be a crime in most states

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    on the other hand, cohen is a stone cold moron and trump should have seen this

     
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    Trump said months ago he knew Cohen taped conversations with clients, didn’t he? He must have been tipped the feds grabbed it during raid. Considering he only had like 2 clients, who else could he be talking about? Honestly, the dude seems like an idiot, but it’s likely he did it out of fear at getting blamed for something in the future. Or to make sure he actually got his money back from Trump considering it seems like he’d pay shit and get reimbursed. I’m sure as a lawyer it feels like a huge ethical violation, and it is, but it was clearly some CYA move on his part. He didn’t seem to practice law in any traditional sense.

    I mean, what would Hillary or Soros have paid for that tape on 11/1/16? I have to imagine a ton. That alone tells me it was an insurance policy of some sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    So Cohen was secretly recording his conversation with Trump about paying a whore off. A lawyer secretly recording his conversation with his client and is now negotiating using that against his client. Beautiful.
    crazy. i know it’s an ethical violation for one attorney to tape record another. i’m assuming there’s similar rules regarding taping clients.

    also the fact that NY is a one-party consent state for secret tape recordings is terrible. every state should require two party consent. what cohen did would be a crime in most states
    It's not attorney-client privileged if they were conspiring to commit a crime. But it certainly makes me uneasy. As a lawyer myself I would never do something like this. Of course I wouldn't do a lot of things Cohen did. Fronting his own money (if that is indeed what happened) was already unethical. Cohen is like Better Call Saul, only incompetent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

    crazy. i know it’s an ethical violation for one attorney to tape record another. i’m assuming there’s similar rules regarding taping clients.

    also the fact that NY is a one-party consent state for secret tape recordings is terrible. every state should require two party consent. what cohen did would be a crime in most states
    It's not attorney-client privileged if they were conspiring to commit a crime. But it certainly makes me uneasy. As a lawyer myself I would never do something like this. Of course I wouldn't do a lot of things Cohen did. Fronting his own money (if that is indeed what happened) was already unethical. Cohen is like Better Call Saul, only incompetent.

    Is hushing a playmate with cash a crime if that’s all that happened? I wouldn’t think so, but I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

    crazy. i know it’s an ethical violation for one attorney to tape record another. i’m assuming there’s similar rules regarding taping clients.

    also the fact that NY is a one-party consent state for secret tape recordings is terrible. every state should require two party consent. what cohen did would be a crime in most states
    It's not attorney-client privileged if they were conspiring to commit a crime. But it certainly makes me uneasy. As a lawyer myself I would never do something like this. Of course I wouldn't do a lot of things Cohen did. Fronting his own money (if that is indeed what happened) was already unethical. Cohen is like Better Call Saul, only incompetent.
    i’m not talking about whether it’s privileged or not. i’m talking about the legality of tape recording someone without their knowledge. in most states that’s a crime, in addition to a violation of ethical rules if done by a lawyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post

    It's not attorney-client privileged if they were conspiring to commit a crime. But it certainly makes me uneasy. As a lawyer myself I would never do something like this. Of course I wouldn't do a lot of things Cohen did. Fronting his own money (if that is indeed what happened) was already unethical. Cohen is like Better Call Saul, only incompetent.

    Is hushing a playmate with cash a crime if that’s all that happened? I wouldn’t think so, but I have no idea.
    That by itself wouldn't be a crime. Where the money came from and whether it was a campaign contribution are potential criminal matters.

     
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    https://www.asott.org
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    great website, many more like this
    too bad he can't read

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    So Cohen was secretly recording his conversation with Trump about paying a whore off. A lawyer secretly recording his conversation with his client and is now negotiating using that against his client. Beautiful.

    All the best people.
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    on the other hand, cohen is a stone cold moron and trump should have seen this
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    Trump said months ago he knew Cohen taped conversations with clients, didn’t he? He must have been tipped the feds grabbed it during raid. Considering he only had like 2 clients, who else could he be talking about? Honestly, the dude seems like an idiot, but it’s likely he did it out of fear at getting blamed for something in the future. Or to make sure he actually got his money back from Trump considering it seems like he’d pay shit and get reimbursed. I’m sure as a lawyer it feels like a huge ethical violation, and it is, but it was clearly some CYA move on his part. He didn’t seem to practice law in any traditional sense.

    I mean, what would Hillary or Soros have paid for that tape on 11/1/16? I have to imagine a ton. That alone tells me it was an insurance policy of some sort.
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    crazy. i know it’s an ethical violation for one attorney to tape record another. i’m assuming there’s similar rules regarding taping clients.

    also the fact that NY is a one-party consent state for secret tape recordings is terrible. every state should require two party consent. what cohen did would be a crime in most states
    It's not attorney-client privileged if they were conspiring to commit a crime. But it certainly makes me uneasy. As a lawyer myself I would never do something like this. Of course I wouldn't do a lot of things Cohen did. Fronting his own money (if that is indeed what happened) was already unethical. Cohen is like Better Call Saul, only incompetent.

    The reality is that Trump is a scumbag from NY who has conducted himself as such for decades. He hired scumbags, he made deals with scumbags, hell, he was the head scumbag. He surrounded himself with folks who would do his bidding for enough money, no matter the chore. Paying off mistresses, whores, near baby-mamas, politicians, judges, city officials, etc., was just part of his way of doing things. Lay down with dogs, you get fleas. But whatever, he was a billionaire, living his life the way he wanted, he was in charge and famous, and if that meant paying people off after you had your fun or made your next few million, whatever. What he didn't foresee was that he would actually win the election and once he did he didn't comprehend that now he was playing with folks who have more wealth, power, and means than he does, and it wasn't as simple as just buying off some slut who wanted a few hundred grand to prevent his next divorce; this was for keeps.

    I have no sympathy for Trump. Personally I prefer his policies to Clinton's, but as I said a long time ago in this thread, there will not be any winners here when the dust settles, not by a longshot, instead we will all be losers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    re: senator chuck schumer cautioning Trump to fear retaliation from CIA -- its seems that there is something to the talk of "deep state"

    those words show schumer hasn't the nerve to exercise control over the government bureaucracy...so he has to go---civilian control of the government via elected officials is at the very foundation of American democracy...and schumer isn't doing the job he was elected to do if he isn't ready to oppose agencies like the CIA, NSA, FBI and military etc when necessary
    The minority can't control anything.
    complete control no, but the minority does have influence and can modulate the policies/actions of the majority

    and further, Schumer expressing fear of the cia shows he should never be part of the majority

    and last, if Schumer knows of CIA acting to intimidate our elected officials then he should speak up right now, do his job and act to preserve civilian control of the government by brooming the bad actors.


    Really HongKonger, I can't see how a person as intelligent as you can't see the significance of Schumer's words.
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
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    The minority can't control anything.
    complete control no, but the minority does have influence and can modulate the policies/actions of the majority

    and further, Schumer expressing fear of the cia shows he should never be part of the majority

    and last, if Schumer knows of CIA acting to intimidate our elected officials then he should speak up right now, do his job and act to preserve civilian control of the government by brooming the bad actors.


    Really HongKonger, I can't see how a person as intelligent as you can't see the significance of Schumer's words.
    I haven't read Schumer's words but conceptually I certainly agree with you.

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