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    WELCOME THE FUCK BACK BASEBALL

    My sleepers this year:
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
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    KC half a game up on everyone already

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    my sincere apologies I read the boxscore incorrectly before posting.

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    For the record:

    The Mariners own your gook faces.


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    I think this is going to be a down year for both the Dodgers and Cardinals, as much as I hate to admit it (well, at least about the Dodgers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I think this is going to be a down year for both the Dodgers and Cardinals, as much as I hate to admit it (well, at least about the Dodgers).
    Take solace in the fact that you'll play ~60 games vs the rockies, padres, brewers, reds, braves, and phillies.


    ...of course so will the rest of the national league.....

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    I think the Expos are gonna do it this year.

     
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    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    The Dodgers are projected to be the second best team in MLB. The Cubs at 94, the Dodgers at 91 and every other team 88 and under. They have the best rotation in baseball, tied with the Mets, by projections. For Kershaw's 34 starts the Dodgers win 70% of their games going 24-10. Team B has two aces, and Team B wins 60% of their games when they're on the mound. That's 20-14 + 20-14 = 40-28. The Dodgers need to go 16-18 with another starter to match Team B. This is the power of Kershaw.

    Urias is there for the stretch run, De Leon too. They have unlimited resources, and are the favorite to land the biggest star at the deadline.

    AJ Pollock going down doesn't hurt the Dodgers or Giants chances, that's for sure. I bet the Diamondbacks wish they had the Dodgers depth right about now. A Trayce Thompson a Kike Hernandez a Joc a Puig an Eithier a Van Slyke, they'd even take a Crawford right about now over the replacement level CF and LF they're running out.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    The Dodgers are projected to be the second best team in MLB. The Cubs at 94, the Dodgers at 91 and every other team 88 and under. They have the best rotation in baseball, tied with the Mets, by projections. For Kershaw's 34 starts the Dodgers win 70% of their games going 24-10. Team B has two aces, and Team B wins 60% of their games when they're on the mound. That's 20-14 + 20-14 = 40-28. The Dodgers need to go 16-18 with another starter to match Team B. This is the power of Kershaw.

    Urias is there for the stretch run, De Leon too. They have unlimited resources, and are the favorite to land the biggest star at the deadline.

    AJ Pollock going down doesn't hurt the Dodgers or Giants chances, that's for sure. I bet the Diamondbacks wish they had the Dodgers depth right about now. A Trayce Thompson a Kike Hernandez a Joc a Puig an Eithier a Van Slyke, they'd even take a Crawford right about now over the replacement level CF and LF they're running out.
    Socrates Brito is an above-replacement-level name tho.

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    Jays just lost a game due to the new "no breaking up the double play rule". Bautista did a perfectly legal slide, however his hand hit the 2nd basemen's foot. It does look fairly deliberate but I didn't think that would be enough to overturn it considering a double play ends the game 3-2 for Tampa vs the Blue Jays being ahead 4-3.

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    My bold prediction is Correa wins the ALMVP

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Jays just lost a game due to the new "no breaking up the double play rule". Bautista did a perfectly legal slide, however his hand hit the 2nd basemen's foot. It does look fairly deliberate but I didn't think that would be enough to overturn it considering a double play ends the game 3-2 for Tampa vs the Blue Jays being ahead 4-3.

    Will post a video link when up.

    THANKS CHASE UTLEY.
    He grabbed his fucking foot ffs. Good call IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    The Dodgers are projected to be the second best team in MLB. The Cubs at 94, the Dodgers at 91 and every other team 88 and under. They have the best rotation in baseball, tied with the Mets, by projections. For Kershaw's 34 starts the Dodgers win 70% of their games going 24-10. Team B has two aces, and Team B wins 60% of their games when they're on the mound. That's 20-14 + 20-14 = 40-28. The Dodgers need to go 16-18 with another starter to match Team B. This is the power of Kershaw.

    Urias is there for the stretch run, De Leon too. They have unlimited resources, and are the favorite to land the biggest star at the deadline.

    AJ Pollock going down doesn't hurt the Dodgers or Giants chances, that's for sure. I bet the Diamondbacks wish they had the Dodgers depth right about now. A Trayce Thompson a Kike Hernandez a Joc a Puig an Eithier a Van Slyke, they'd even take a Crawford right about now over the replacement level CF and LF they're running out.
    I hope this is true.

    But the truth is that beyond Kershaw, the remainder of the rotation is either mediocre, injury-prone, or both.

    Subtract Greinke from the rotation last year and replace him with an average pitcher, and that's approximately where I see the Dodgers this year. Maybe a little better because lineup-wise they are probably better due to the presence of Corey Seager and perhaps better years out of Puig or Pederson.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalizeMeth View Post
    WELCOME THE FUCK BACK BASEBALL

    My sleepers this year:
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    Rodon

    Bold Prediction: Mookie Betts is top 10 fantasy player by EOS
    Hell of a call on Story so far

     
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    Dodgers swept Padres and shut them out all 3 games.

    Yasiel Puig looks the best he has since 2013.

    Reportedly the improvement in Puig was due to him "toning down" the offseason workouts. The Dodgers actually asked him to be LESS muscular, as he bulked up too much and it made him slow and injury-prone, So he did that, and now he's playing a lot better. If Puig, Pederson, and Seager keep hitting, this will be a very tough offense.

    Kazmir and Maeda, both of whom I was skeptical of, looked great in their first starts. But this was against the Padres, who have a horrendous offense.

    I am reserving judgment on the rotation until they play some teams with good bats.

    The Giants are one of them, so we will see how this next series goes.

     
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    I still think if Alex Wood doesn't tear his elbow up, he will surprise people and be a pretty solid mid-rotation guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    I still think if Alex Wood doesn't tear his elbow up, he will surprise people and be a pretty solid mid-rotation guy.
    He looked awful in the spring, and also was super-inconsistent last year.

    Still not sold on him.

    Kazmir might end up being a good pickup. I was skeptical, but the NL might be a good spot for him at this point in his career.

    Maeda has a high ceiling but he is also very injury prone.

    This is one thing that annoys me about the current front office. They sign injury-prone pitchers, and then say "omg such bad luck" when those pitchers get injured and have to be replaced in the rotation by minor leaguers.

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    I think they see a market inefficiency with regards to injury prone pitchers . Their able to take risks on these pitchers because of their seemingly unlimited resources and depth. Last year, as an example, the McCarthy signing provided no value but the Anderson signing did.

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    That is a hell of a rotation.

    Dave Cameron article on the Dodgers from a couple weeks back:
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    There’s a weird narrative going around with regards to the Dodgers right now. Somehow, the team’s lavish spending on international prospects has been construed as a sign that the team isn’t committed to winning in the short term. Or something. I’ll let Dylan Hernandez’s words from the LA Times try to explain it better.

    This was the risk the front office assumed with its long-term plan, which is to be in 2020-something what the World Series favorite Chicago Cubs are now. That strategy explains why the pitching staff consists of primarily spare parts while tens of millions of dollars are being invested in Latin American teenagers.

    There’s some logic to the idea, except you wonder if the team’s decision makers are looking too far ahead to recognize the opportunity right in front of them — specifically, that Clayton Kershaw is theirs for at least three more seasons.

    At the end of the 2018 season, Kershaw will have the option of doing what Zack Greinke did over the winter and void the remainder of his contract. Greinke didn’t return. Kershaw might not, either.

    The three-year period coincides with Kershaw’s prime years; the three-time Cy Young Award winner turned 28 on Saturday.

    It’s puzzling why the Dodgers aren’t maximizing their chances of winning a World Series while this once-in-a-generation pitcher is on their roster.

    Let’s look at some facts.


    The Dodgers are the three-time defending NL West champions. Over those three years, they’ve won 92, 94, and 92 games, and their 278 wins over that span rank behind only the Cardinals (287) and Pirates (280) in MLB. The next closest NL West team, the Giants, has won 248 games, meaning they’ve won an average of 10 more games per season than their division rival.

    Of course, things haven’t gone as well in the postseason, with the team getting knocked out in the Division Series twice and getting eliminated in the League Championship Series once. But judging a team’s commitment to winning based on how they perform in the postseason is a bit silly, given how small the margin is between advancing and being eliminated in a short series. Last year, they got eliminated in a winner-take-all Game 5 by a 3-2 margin, so their season literally ended because they got outscored by a single run.

    In 2014, they got eliminated in the first round not because of Kershaw’s supporting cast, but because Kershaw himself didn’t pitch well, allowing 11 runs in 12 2/3 innings pitched; the Dodgers lost both games he started, which made advancing all but impossible. The story is mostly the same in 2013, as the team lost the NLCS 4-2 to the Cardinals, with the team losing both of Kershaw’s starts, as he allowed 8 runs in 10 innings pitched.

    I don’t think it’s particularly fair to blame Kershaw for the team’s lack of postseason success the last three years, but it’s also a bit absurd to act like the Dodgers supporting cast dropped the ball in October; the Dodgers have won three and lost five of Kershaw’s postseason eight postseason starts over the last three years, but won five and lost six of their non-Kershaw starts. If we’re going to judge the Dodgers commitment to winning while they have Kershaw not based on their regular season success, but on their postseason failures, we have to acknowledge Kershaw’s role in those failures, and admit that there probably wasn’t any kind of roster the team could have built around him that would have advanced deep in the playoffs without Kershaw pitching like Kershaw.

    Hernandez laments the fact that the team let Greinke leave, stating that “recent history suggests the Dodgers have been short a frontline starter.” Wait, really? The team had two of the three best pitchers in the National League last year; how many frontline starters is a team supposed to have now? The Royals won the World Series with a mediocre-at-best rotation. The Giants won the 2014 World Series with Madison Bumgarner and the seven dwarves. The 2013 Red Sox won the World Series with Jon Lester, John Lackey, and then Jake Peavy and Clay Buchholz trying to get through three or four innings at a time without melting down. The idea that the results of the postseason suggests that rotation depth has been a key factor in emerging victorious simply isn’t supported by the evidence.

    But it’s clear that Hernandez isn’t a fan of letting Greinke leave “while tens of millions of dollars are being invested in Latin American teenagers.” Of course, equivocating signing bonuses for young talent with major league payroll offers a false dichotomy; the rules surrounding spending are simply not the same. Because the Dodgers have been running the highest payrolls the game has ever seen — a fact not mentioned in Hernandez’s column, weirdly — they are subject to a 50% tax on all big league expenditures. So, Zack Greinke’s $34 million per year AAV? That’s actually $51 million in real costs for the team. $51 million per year, for six years. Do you think Zack Greinke’s decline years are really worth $300 million to the Dodgers?

    The taxes the team pay on the signing bonuses for the international players are a one-time cost, not a recurring fee that they’ll owe for as long as they have those players. And while it’s easy to say that Yadier Alvarez and Yusniel Diaz don’t provide any tangible benefit to the team in 2016, we literally just saw the team turn recent international expenditures into big league roster upgrades last year, as they signed-then-traded Hector Olivera for Alex Wood. Wood, of course, didn’t pitch particularly well down the stretch, so you can quibble with the big league players the team is targeting if you want, but we can’t pretend that international expenditures aren’t producing any benefit for the big league roster.

    Hernandez has taken the Dodgers decision to invest in young talent as some kind of sign that the team is more concerned about the future than the present while ignoring the fact that, at present, the Dodgers are still an excellent team. Our Playoff Odds forecasts have them as a 93 win team headed into the season, with an 87% chance of reaching the postseason; the Cubs are the only team in baseball with better playoff odds, according to our projections. Think our projections are bunk? Baseball Prospectus also has the Dodgers at 93 wins, one win behind the Cubs for the best projected record in baseball. Clay Davenport’s projections put the Dodgers at 92 wins.

    And these forecasts are based on current depth charts, so they are already accounting for Brett Anderson being out for mostly the whole year, Andre Ethier breaking his leg, Hyun-Jin Ryu‘s return being pushed back, Mike Bolsinger straining his oblique, and all the other things that have gone wrong for the Dodgers at camp. These low-90s forecasts are what the Dodgers are expected to win even accounting for their disastrous spring.

    Obviously, the Dodgers depth is going to be tested, and they’re going to need guys like Wood and Kenta Maeda to pitch well, or else things really could go off the rails. But despite the injuries, the sky is not falling in LA. The Dodgers are still a very good baseball team, just like they’ve been the last three years, and they still have an excellent chance at giving Clayton Kershaw another shot at postseason redemption.

    But perhaps the most befuddling aspect of this story is that there absolutely is a team in Los Angeles that is wasting the prime years of a generational player. Mike Trout is the best player alive, as valuable as two or three All-Stars put together, and the Angels still look like a sub-.500 team. In fact, they’ve not won even a single postseason game since Trout debuted, and this year, the Angels are surrounding him with a supporting cast that would make up the worst team in the league if Trout got injured. Rather than taking advantage of Trout’s remarkable production, the Angels are rolling with replacement level players at multiple positions, all because Arte Moreno has decided not to pay the luxury tax. You know, the one the Dodgers have been paying for years, as they rack up division title after division title.

    I get that the Dodgers aren’t doing things the traditional way, and it’s not as easy to write about the value of young depth as it is to praise teams who overpay aging veterans who newspaper readers are familiar with, but this idea that the Dodgers are wasting Kershaw’s prime is just factually incorrect. If an LA writer wants to write that story, he has every chance to do so, but Hernandez picked the wrong LA franchise to criticize.



    Quote Originally Posted by LegalizeMeth View Post
    WELCOME THE FUCK BACK BASEBALL

    My sleepers this year:
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    Certainly off to a good start with these predictions. The Story pick is fascinating. He hits the ball in the air a lot for a shortstop, he'll probably carry a low avg/obp with good power numbers. It will be interesting to see if he has the total offensive package.

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    The Mariners own your gook faces.

    Good to see Robbie Cano off to a hot start.

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    My bold prediction is Correa wins the ALMVP
    Not a bad start for this prediction either. He is a remarkable talent. I think Donaldson and Trout will have some nice counting stats by seasons end, but the fact Correa plays a good ss can only help. My bold AL MVP is Machado.

    One final note... Noah Syndergaard throwing 99 mph sinkers and 95 mph sliders to start the year. Watch out.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalizeMeth View Post
    WELCOME THE FUCK BACK BASEBALL

    My sleepers this year:
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    Bold Prediction: Mookie Betts is top 10 fantasy player by EOS
    Love Conforto but its a difficult choice with him vs. gold-glove Lagares. That said, don't be surprised if Conforto is batting 2nd in the lineup soon.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    The Dodgers are projected to be the second best team in MLB. The Cubs at 94, the Dodgers at 91 and every other team 88 and under. They have the best rotation in baseball, tied with the Mets, by projections. For Kershaw's 34 starts the Dodgers win 70% of their games going 24-10. Team B has two aces, and Team B wins 60% of their games when they're on the mound. That's 20-14 + 20-14 = 40-28. The Dodgers need to go 16-18 with another starter to match Team B. This is the power of Kershaw.

    Urias is there for the stretch run, De Leon too. They have unlimited resources, and are the favorite to land the biggest star at the deadline.

    AJ Pollock going down doesn't hurt the Dodgers or Giants chances, that's for sure. I bet the Diamondbacks wish they had the Dodgers depth right about now. A Trayce Thompson a Kike Hernandez a Joc a Puig an Eithier a Van Slyke, they'd even take a Crawford right about now over the replacement level CF and LF they're running out.
    I hope this is true.

    But the truth is that beyond Kershaw, the remainder of the rotation is either mediocre, injury-prone, or both.

    Subtract Greinke from the rotation last year and replace him with an average pitcher, and that's approximately where I see the Dodgers this year. Maybe a little better because lineup-wise they are probably better due to the presence of Corey Seager and perhaps better years out of Puig or Pederson.

    Saw a stat on Kershaw while watching the Tribe game yesterday that blew my mind. Indians Starter Carlos Carrasco is in second place for starters with 17 consecutive games with 5+ strikeouts. Leading streak is Clayton Kershaw with a staggering 57 straight starts.

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    Bad day for the Cubs, looks like Schwarber might have broke his leg and Baez was rehabbing and got hit in the head.

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