does anyone else now think Trump has a chance?

[ftpjesus]

Zero chance.

People are sick of Trump.

Every single day we have to put up with his bullshit.

When Barack Obama was President, months went by with no problems or drama.

But don't worry. Trump’s going to buy Trump Island, where some of the morons who supported him can move to, you can live there tax free and be ruled by him forever.

Guess ya missed the memo about the massive Trump car parade outside of NYC that stretched over 85miles that happened over the weekend.

[ftpjesus]

Rasmussen came out today with Trump +1 nationally

Wow that sounds awfully familiar



(2018)

Yes and the media clowns all swore Trump was gonna get smashed by HRC. Turned out great for her didnt it. Again I’ll add what I said elsewhere two of my family members in FL blatantly lied to the pollsters about supporting Biden when they had already voted for Trump by mail. You have to assume there’s a 5-6% minimum skew on polls in realty towards Trump. I’ve heard other similar stories. People are deliberately lying to the pollsters plain and simple.

[ftpjesus]

I saw he has stops in Georgia and Broward County scheduled this week. Did he cancel them? I just saw it this morning.

I think he’s taking a risk campaigning there as they feel longshots.

No. The answer is that bottomfaggot and Biffcunt live in an alternate reality where Biden is hiding, rather than reality where in fact Biden is out campaigning.

I guess it makes sense, in Back to the Future 2 Biff is rich and powerful in the alternate reality.

Less then 20 ppl in circles around chairs outside or some Denny’s appearance isn’t campaigning. He’s had more lids then Tupperware. Meanwhile Trump is still getting thousands. He had an appearance in Az a few weeks back where a couple news reporters remarked jt was a bit boring and nobody was really there. That’s actually
Facts. Biden isn’t campaigning he’s been off the road more then on. He’s been so tightly controlled by his handlers I’m surprised he doesn’t have to ask to take a piss without permission.

[v12cl]

If Trump didn't have a chance, the opposition wouldn't be turning the flu into an election year fake pandemic, intentionally tanking the economy, closing schools, and destroying the legitimacy of the election before it took place.

The desperation is real, if Biden were up 10 points, they would be behaving differently.

MAGA!

[ftpjesus]

When Trump is re-elected and people look back as to why, it will be obvious.

Who wants to vote for the side of darkness and fear? Lockdowns, masking, closed schools, bankrupt businesses, rioting, political violence & censorship.

Trump and Coronavirus is the cause of all this.

If Trump is re-elected America is fucked.

No if Biden is elected we get knee pads as POTUS within a short time. A woman who aspires to bring all the steaming shit of Commiefornia to the entire country. A bunch of whackers who somehow think you can spend 100T over 10yrs (New Green Deal) with only a supposed insanely asinine 4T tax increase. That’s 6T in deficits on Avg. it would double the entire
National debt in one term and destroy the credit rating of Country with a debt load at 200% of GDP.

[ftpjesus]

250k dead Americans

Economy in the shitter

Rioting in the streets

A virus out of control that he is doing nothing to control

Half his cabinet indicted on federal charges

Millions unemployed



FOOD LINES


But sure trumps fat ass is gonna Win cus he's in PA doing rallies in front of the dumb and misinformed


trump is going to lose

Let’s see early this year the chicken littles predicted 10x the number of deaths. That senile ass Biden implying magically we’re gonna have as many deaths in the next two months as we had in 7 months previously despite death rates dropping nationwide despite the bump in cases. Economy is in the shitter becuase of asshole governors creating unattainable goals for reopening. JFC Disneyland still can’t reopen and nobody knows when with the ridiculous standards that moron Newsome has set... those riots are from aspiring communists like BLM and supposed anti fascists who are in fact acting like facists demanding compliance of the citizens or else. Yeah it’s Trumps fault wtf ever dude.

[ftpjesus]

Biden is as likely to win South Carolina as trump is to win Wisconsin or Michigan


Biden is as likely to win Kansas as trump is to win PA

When GA and TX are in play then you know it's not going to be close

Just common sense really


I'm most concerned about the Senate

Trump is indeed possibly going to win MI and that’s thankful to that dumb cunt Whitmer. The citizens of MI are sick and tired of her tyrannical bullshit and if Trump wins MI it’ll be because of backlash against Whitmer

[big dick]

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has maintained a steady job approval rating with a majority of Michigan voters despite election-year sniping by President Donald Trump, whose job approval is about 15 percentage points lower, according to a Detroit News-WDIV-TV poll released Tuesday.

Nearly 54% of Michigan voters view the Democratic governor favorably and 59% approve of the job she's doing, according to the Oct. 23-25 survey of 600 likely Michigan voters. The job approval number inches up to 61% about her handling of the coronavirus pandemic, according to the survey, which had a margin of error of plus-minus 4 percentage points.

The poll by the Lansing-based Glengariff Group found 37% viewed Whitmer unfavorably, 38% disapproved of the job she is doing and 37% disapproved of her handling of the pandemic.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, left, and President Donald Trump
The job approval ratings are a slight uptick from an early September Detroit News-WDIV poll, an increase that falls within margin of error.

By contrast, Trump's job performance remained consistent at 44% approval and 52% disapproval — a double-digit contrast with Whitmer. The Republican president's handling of the pandemic dropped to a 55% disapproval rating and 39% approval — a more than 20-point gap with the governor.

Trump has frequently criticized Whitmer's early shutdown order and subsequent COVID-19 restrictions that were eased during the summer after cases declined. When he criticized the governor and called for opening more schools and businesses amid the pandemic, his supporters at an Oct. 17 Muskegon rally and Tuesday's Lansing rally started chanting "Lock her up."

The largest factor driving Whitmer's popularity are Trump's attacks on her, Glengariff Group pollstrer Richard Czuba said.

The continual attacks on Whitmer, he said, "may be one of the single, biggest bonehead political moves I’ve seen this election.

"If your job is to attract women in an area where you’re doing poorly, attacking Gov. Whitmer is not the way to do that," Czuba said. "It's reflected in her polls and his polls.”

Among other things, Trump has described Whitmer as "the woman in Michigan," which her supporters quickly translated to "That woman from Michigan." When she criticized how protective equipment that Michigan and other states needed to fight the COVID-19 pandemic was going to the federal government, he called her "Gretchen 'Half' Whitmer" on Twitter.

Trump's favorability rating in the same poll came in at 40% favorable and 53% unfavorable, numbers that have remained consistent for the president's nearly four years in office, he said.

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was viewed favorably among 46% of voters and unfavorably by 47%. Whitmer is a national co-chair of Biden's campaign and was considered for the vice presidential nomination that went to U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris of California.

"The presidential numbers and Gov. Whitmer’s numbers are so interconnected here," Czuba said. "Just as President Trump is getting shellacked in southeast Michigan, Gov. Whitmer is getting her strongest numbers in southeast Michigan.”

In addition, Czuba said, Whitmer is doing "very well" with outstate women. This development "undercuts Republican strength just as it's undercutting the president’s campaign right now," he said.

Voters' approval of Whitmer's handling of the pandemic increased to 71% approval among Metro Detroit voters and fell to 52% approval among outstate voters. Among rural voters, 48% approved of the governor's handling of the pandemic while 51% disapproved.

Whitmer's pandemic approval also increases among voters over the age of 65, an age group from which she captured a 75% approval rating.

It came as no surprise to Mark Tennenhouse of Troy to hear that Trump's comments about the governor could be reflected in their divergent job approval numbers.

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"I absolutely believe that there’s a correlation,” Tennenhouse said.

"But I do support what she’s doing,” he said. "She is taking the coronavirus very seriously, and I think we need to exercise caution before we open everything up and try to get back to normal.”

Yvonne Babe may be a bit of an outlier.

The 75-year-old East Tawas woman voted for Whitmer in 2018 but expressed strong disapproval of the governor's COVID-19 response in the poll. She plans to vote a Republican ticket on Nov. 3.

The governor has an "air of arrogance" and is more interested in the lives of her constituents in southeast Michigan than outstate communities, Babe said.

"Her whole campaign message was to fix the damn roads," Babe said. "Well, she hasn’t. And it would have been a perfect time while we were locked in our homes for road crews to go out and fix the damn roads.”

eleblanc@detroitnews.com


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ll/6051858002/

[ftpjesus]

US has never been a democratic system, sure it might work in Canada with an entire country of bumpkins that all live within 100 miles of the mighty USA...but not here, too diverse for a true democracy.

JFC

So you think we should just scrap the whole Democracy thing? Just let king trump rule us all?


Or am i reading it wrong and it's just n-words spics chinks and poors who shouldn't be allowed to participate in our democracy?

Land owners only maybe?

Straight majority democracy doesn’t work. You obviously never studying ancient history. Greece snd Rome fell due to blanket democracy. We are a fucking representative republic. It’s the grand experiment that works. Balance of power of population of large states vs protection of the smaller states against mass tyranny. Do you not realize the EC is based on the principals combined of the House of Reps and the Senate so less populous states don’t have their voices crushed by monster states from CA to NY to TX. Would it be fair if TX could dictate politics and policy to Vermont. The EC is the compromise to protect both large and small states. That’s it. Did you not take civics and govt in high school?? Just like the whole principal of balance of powers of the three branches. Congress makes the laws. Executive execute those laws and Judicial to protect the people whole against abuse of power snd violations of the Constitution by one or both of the other. Or to resolve disputes between the Congress and White House

[big dick]

JFC

So you think we should just scrap the whole Democracy thing? Just let king trump rule us all?


Or am i reading it wrong and it's just n-words spics chinks and poors who shouldn't be allowed to participate in our democracy?

Land owners only maybe?

Straight majority democracy doesn’t work. You obviously never studying ancient history. Greece snd Rome fell due to blanket democracy. We are a fucking representative republic. It’s the grand experiment that works. Balance of power of population of large states vs protection of the smaller states against mass tyranny. Do you not realize the EC is based on the principals combined of the House of Reps and the Senate so less populous states don’t have their voices crushed by monster states from CA to NY to TX. Would it be fair if TX could dictate politics and policy to Vermont. The EC is the compromise to protect both large and small states. That’s it. Did you not take civics and govt in high school?? Just like the whole principal of balance of powers of the three branches. Congress makes the laws. Executive execute those laws and Judicial to protect the people whole against abuse of power snd violations of the Constitution by one or both of the other. Or to resolve disputes between the Congress and White House

LOL

Keep drinking the kool aid


Yeah I know about the EC and how i works. Self taught

TIK TOK

[big dick]

Biden is as likely to win South Carolina as trump is to win Wisconsin or Michigan


Biden is as likely to win Kansas as trump is to win PA

When GA and TX are in play then you know it's not going to be close

Just common sense really


I'm most concerned about the Senate

Trump is indeed possibly going to win MI and that’s thankful to that dumb cunt Whitmer. The citizens of MI are sick and tired of her tyrannical bullshit and if Trump wins MI it’ll be because of backlash against Whitmer

1ST you say stupid shit like this

then I disprove the nonsense that you're spouting and then you start talking some other nonsense


TIK TOK BUD TIK TOK

6 DAYS and all of this will be over


senate, house and oval office will be under DEM rule


I suggest you prepare yourself now as it will make it less painful

[v12cl]

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has maintained a steady job approval rating with a majority of Michigan voters despite election-year sniping by President Donald Trump, whose job approval is about 15 percentage points lower, according to a Detroit News-WDIV-TV poll released Tuesday.

Nearly 54% of Michigan voters view the Democratic governor favorably and 59% approve of the job she's doing, according to the Oct. 23-25 survey of 600 likely Michigan voters. The job approval number inches up to 61% about her handling of the coronavirus pandemic, according to the survey, which had a margin of error of plus-minus 4 percentage points.

The poll by the Lansing-based Glengariff Group found 37% viewed Whitmer unfavorably, 38% disapproved of the job she is doing and 37% disapproved of her handling of the pandemic.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, left, and President Donald Trump
The job approval ratings are a slight uptick from an early September Detroit News-WDIV poll, an increase that falls within margin of error.

By contrast, Trump's job performance remained consistent at 44% approval and 52% disapproval — a double-digit contrast with Whitmer. The Republican president's handling of the pandemic dropped to a 55% disapproval rating and 39% approval — a more than 20-point gap with the governor.

Trump has frequently criticized Whitmer's early shutdown order and subsequent COVID-19 restrictions that were eased during the summer after cases declined. When he criticized the governor and called for opening more schools and businesses amid the pandemic, his supporters at an Oct. 17 Muskegon rally and Tuesday's Lansing rally started chanting "Lock her up."

The largest factor driving Whitmer's popularity are Trump's attacks on her, Glengariff Group pollstrer Richard Czuba said.

The continual attacks on Whitmer, he said, "may be one of the single, biggest bonehead political moves I’ve seen this election.

"If your job is to attract women in an area where you’re doing poorly, attacking Gov. Whitmer is not the way to do that," Czuba said. "It's reflected in her polls and his polls.”

Among other things, Trump has described Whitmer as "the woman in Michigan," which her supporters quickly translated to "That woman from Michigan." When she criticized how protective equipment that Michigan and other states needed to fight the COVID-19 pandemic was going to the federal government, he called her "Gretchen 'Half' Whitmer" on Twitter.

Trump's favorability rating in the same poll came in at 40% favorable and 53% unfavorable, numbers that have remained consistent for the president's nearly four years in office, he said.

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was viewed favorably among 46% of voters and unfavorably by 47%. Whitmer is a national co-chair of Biden's campaign and was considered for the vice presidential nomination that went to U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris of California.

"The presidential numbers and Gov. Whitmer’s numbers are so interconnected here," Czuba said. "Just as President Trump is getting shellacked in southeast Michigan, Gov. Whitmer is getting her strongest numbers in southeast Michigan.”

In addition, Czuba said, Whitmer is doing "very well" with outstate women. This development "undercuts Republican strength just as it's undercutting the president’s campaign right now," he said.

Voters' approval of Whitmer's handling of the pandemic increased to 71% approval among Metro Detroit voters and fell to 52% approval among outstate voters. Among rural voters, 48% approved of the governor's handling of the pandemic while 51% disapproved.

Whitmer's pandemic approval also increases among voters over the age of 65, an age group from which she captured a 75% approval rating.

It came as no surprise to Mark Tennenhouse of Troy to hear that Trump's comments about the governor could be reflected in their divergent job approval numbers.

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"I absolutely believe that there’s a correlation,” Tennenhouse said.

"But I do support what she’s doing,” he said. "She is taking the coronavirus very seriously, and I think we need to exercise caution before we open everything up and try to get back to normal.”

Yvonne Babe may be a bit of an outlier.

The 75-year-old East Tawas woman voted for Whitmer in 2018 but expressed strong disapproval of the governor's COVID-19 response in the poll. She plans to vote a Republican ticket on Nov. 3.

The governor has an "air of arrogance" and is more interested in the lives of her constituents in southeast Michigan than outstate communities, Babe said.

"Her whole campaign message was to fix the damn roads," Babe said. "Well, she hasn’t. And it would have been a perfect time while we were locked in our homes for road crews to go out and fix the damn roads.”

eleblanc@detroitnews.com


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ll/6051858002/

TLDR

Trump wins Michigan.

Book it.

[big dick]

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has maintained a steady job approval rating with a majority of Michigan voters despite election-year sniping by President Donald Trump, whose job approval is about 15 percentage points lower, according to a Detroit News-WDIV-TV poll released Tuesday.

Nearly 54% of Michigan voters view the Democratic governor favorably and 59% approve of the job she's doing, according to the Oct. 23-25 survey of 600 likely Michigan voters. The job approval number inches up to 61% about her handling of the coronavirus pandemic, according to the survey, which had a margin of error of plus-minus 4 percentage points.

The poll by the Lansing-based Glengariff Group found 37% viewed Whitmer unfavorably, 38% disapproved of the job she is doing and 37% disapproved of her handling of the pandemic.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, left, and President Donald Trump
The job approval ratings are a slight uptick from an early September Detroit News-WDIV poll, an increase that falls within margin of error.

By contrast, Trump's job performance remained consistent at 44% approval and 52% disapproval — a double-digit contrast with Whitmer. The Republican president's handling of the pandemic dropped to a 55% disapproval rating and 39% approval — a more than 20-point gap with the governor.

Trump has frequently criticized Whitmer's early shutdown order and subsequent COVID-19 restrictions that were eased during the summer after cases declined. When he criticized the governor and called for opening more schools and businesses amid the pandemic, his supporters at an Oct. 17 Muskegon rally and Tuesday's Lansing rally started chanting "Lock her up."

The largest factor driving Whitmer's popularity are Trump's attacks on her, Glengariff Group pollstrer Richard Czuba said.

The continual attacks on Whitmer, he said, "may be one of the single, biggest bonehead political moves I’ve seen this election.

"If your job is to attract women in an area where you’re doing poorly, attacking Gov. Whitmer is not the way to do that," Czuba said. "It's reflected in her polls and his polls.”

Among other things, Trump has described Whitmer as "the woman in Michigan," which her supporters quickly translated to "That woman from Michigan." When she criticized how protective equipment that Michigan and other states needed to fight the COVID-19 pandemic was going to the federal government, he called her "Gretchen 'Half' Whitmer" on Twitter.

Trump's favorability rating in the same poll came in at 40% favorable and 53% unfavorable, numbers that have remained consistent for the president's nearly four years in office, he said.

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was viewed favorably among 46% of voters and unfavorably by 47%. Whitmer is a national co-chair of Biden's campaign and was considered for the vice presidential nomination that went to U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris of California.

"The presidential numbers and Gov. Whitmer’s numbers are so interconnected here," Czuba said. "Just as President Trump is getting shellacked in southeast Michigan, Gov. Whitmer is getting her strongest numbers in southeast Michigan.”

In addition, Czuba said, Whitmer is doing "very well" with outstate women. This development "undercuts Republican strength just as it's undercutting the president’s campaign right now," he said.

Voters' approval of Whitmer's handling of the pandemic increased to 71% approval among Metro Detroit voters and fell to 52% approval among outstate voters. Among rural voters, 48% approved of the governor's handling of the pandemic while 51% disapproved.

Whitmer's pandemic approval also increases among voters over the age of 65, an age group from which she captured a 75% approval rating.

It came as no surprise to Mark Tennenhouse of Troy to hear that Trump's comments about the governor could be reflected in their divergent job approval numbers.

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"I absolutely believe that there’s a correlation,” Tennenhouse said.

"But I do support what she’s doing,” he said. "She is taking the coronavirus very seriously, and I think we need to exercise caution before we open everything up and try to get back to normal.”

Yvonne Babe may be a bit of an outlier.

The 75-year-old East Tawas woman voted for Whitmer in 2018 but expressed strong disapproval of the governor's COVID-19 response in the poll. She plans to vote a Republican ticket on Nov. 3.

The governor has an "air of arrogance" and is more interested in the lives of her constituents in southeast Michigan than outstate communities, Babe said.

"Her whole campaign message was to fix the damn roads," Babe said. "Well, she hasn’t. And it would have been a perfect time while we were locked in our homes for road crews to go out and fix the damn roads.”

eleblanc@detroitnews.com


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ll/6051858002/

TLDR

Trump wins Michigan.

Book it.

I got 5k burning a hole in my pocket if you care to wager


lmk


The real question is how many REPUBLICANS are going to punch BIDEN/HARRIS/OBAMA 2020

[GrenadaRoger]

6 DAYS and all of this will be over


senate, house and oval office will be under DEM rule


I suggest you prepare yourself now as it will make it less painful

thanks for the tip, i'll start hiding my firearms and ammo

[Daniel72]

BIG Crowd

[big dick]

6 DAYS and all of this will be over


senate, house and oval office will be under DEM rule


I suggest you prepare yourself now as it will make it less painful

thanks for the tip, i'll start hiding my firearms and ammo

Hide em? According to trump you're gonna need them cus all the blacks are coming to your suburb


or are you hiding them from the big bad dems who wanna take your guns? I got my gun sitting a few fee tfrom me as we speak

Nobody wants your guns dude and you know that .

It's right wing bullshit

[Walter Sobchak]

I always gave him 35% last week. . I was 45 yesterday. After looking at today’s polls, I’m at 40. Check with me tmrw. That’s a long way from drawing dead either way.

Little newsflash on the polls. Ex 1 my mother got called in Florida by a pollster she LIED told them she was supporting Biden. My Aunt did the same thing she lives about an hour from my mom. So yeah people are skewing their polls to screw with them. So I’d take any results with a grain of salt and if the polls are close assume it’s a Trump lead in reality.

Your two individual anecdotes are highly predictive of the entire country.

[Walter Sobchak]

Trump and Coronavirus is the cause of all this.

If Trump is re-elected America is fucked.

No if Biden is elected we get knee pads as POTUS within a short time. A woman who aspires to bring all the steaming shit of Commiefornia to the entire country. A bunch of whackers who somehow think you can spend 100T over 10yrs (New Green Deal) with only a supposed insanely asinine 4T tax increase. That’s 6T in deficits on Avg. it would double the entire
National debt in one term and destroy the credit rating of Country with a debt load at 200% of GDP.

It's amazing that you can completely ignore how badly the Republicans have fucked everything up.

Biggest deficit spenders ever: Reagan, W, Trump

[big dick]

If Trump didn't have a chance, the opposition wouldn't be turning the flu into an election year fake pandemic, intentionally tanking the economy, closing schools, and destroying the legitimacy of the election before it took place.

The desperation is real, if Biden were up 10 points, they would be behaving differently.

MAGA!

Of course he has a chance

not a very good chance but ofc he can still win

unlikely but possible

nobody wants to lock down the god dam country.
Start reading some type of world news that isn't fox news or the other right wing garbage you're digesting and educate yourself to what is actually happening

You really think the democrats just wanna shut down the whole fucking country and do so for no god reasen besides getting trump out?

How about the ROW? They lying about the virus too? Just to get trump out?


You seem like a nice enough guy and i'm sure you're a decent man but cmon dude. Wise up a little and take a closer look at what's happening right now

[v12cl]

TLDR

Trump wins Michigan.

Book it.

I got 5k burning a hole in my pocket if you care to wager


lmk


The real question is how many REPUBLICANS are going to punch BIDEN/HARRIS/OBAMA 2020

He won Michigan last time, what exactly has changed?

Will save my $5k for food and ammo, in case I'm wrong.

Joe did promise a Dark Winter, so I'll take him at his word.