But has Porsche run its Taycan there?
Porsche Taycan gets praise from Tesla’s Elon Musk on Nürburgring record
https://www.teslarati.com/porsche-ta...ceo-elon-musk/
Holy shit! If there ever was an example of speaking too soon...
Tesla Model S beats Porsche Taycan’s Nurburgring lap by ~20 secs: German auto mag
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mode...orsche-taycan/
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
this solarcity shit is a problem. the accusation at bar is that solarcity was insolvent but somehow musk saw fit to essentially funnel billions into it, and by extension his own pocket. even if one says 'ok well its a hugely important tech mission and the ends justify etc etc', the blowback could be really, really, really bad, and its amplifying every single unit failure event, eg a kit in colorado caught on fire and now thats the banner headline because of the other drama blowing up around solarcity. so there is a real potential for a perfect storm to go much further than the 6%+ drop in stock value today.
semi-related:
full disclosure.. i pulled my model y pre-order a couple of weeks ago for three reasons:
1) first run teslas tend to have problems and im not super into beta testing a car for free.
2) im not actually entirely convinced that the model y is going to drop before 2021.
3) there was a slight price drop in my chosen configuration and i'd have never known had i not logged in on a whim to check; after 'reconfiguring' my car (literally choosing all the same options and hitting save), my cost reflected the new price. not cool.
bonus reason:
4) when things go well with a tesla order, they go VERY well. when things dont, you end up in this weird bureaucratic maze where department x cant see whats going on in department y despite department z telling you that x are the people you need to speak with.
the china gigafactory is going to start generating revenue in earnest by years end pending Real Drama so im not viewing any of the issues at bar as extinction events, and ill gladly pick up my model y once they start shipping, but there just wasnt an upside to pre-ordering that i could find so here we are.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
yeah i feel like there was a unified theory end game where solarcity / tesla wall / car get bundled together and real talk i gladly sign the dotted line for that action, but my optimism is predicated on solarcity surviving long enough to roll out a stable product and train up competent installation engineers. my gut says the china / europe plays are going to stabilize the situation by q2 / q3 2020 but its going to be nerve wracking getting there.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Possibly the best long-form user-generated unsponsored unintentional advertisement for a Tesla automobile to date. It’s 50+ minutes long, but don’t be surprised if you find yourself watching the whole thing.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-smar...-map-location/
color me old fashioned but i think concepts like 'beta version' should be airgapped from anything automotive in nature.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
At least they didn’t call it alpha?
Last edited by sonatine; 09-28-2019 at 05:51 PM.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
https://www.teslarati.com/greta-thun...schwarzenegger
absolutely guaranteed there is something in here to trigger every miniboomer on this site.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Wait for it, wait for it.....
Production #’s .... I know that’s not really the point but still fun.
Whatcha smokin?
i was going to suggest tesla roll back the auto-summon feature immediately but its absolutely central to their automated taxi-fleet uber-killer concept and they just acquired an AI company to help them make it happen, so i expect dark days on the stock front.
thats the naked face of the tesla gambit right now; can they survive long enough to roll out a functional self driving fleet of taxis. its a bit infuriating because im really not sure the potential upsides justify extending beyond their more immediate identity as 'a company selling an amazing car'.
im already seeing an avalanche of obviously fake auto-summon complaints getting the good old sosh media retweet amplifications from accounts clearly run/orchestrated by trollfarms so i hope to christ the market sees it as well as i do.
Last edited by sonatine; 10-02-2019 at 05:58 AM.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
There are times I want to offer myself as a sort of reverse proxy server between reality and yourself, Sonatine
There was once a time in the auto industry when “win on Sunday - sell on Monday” was a thing.
Of course, you weren’t buying Richard Pettys engine. It was cache. Tesla can code some trick shit. Trot it out on social media and Joe Rogan. The Tesla image will sell cars. You don’t have to jam it into production.
Go ahead and show off a little. Hype and braggadocio works.
You do get that cars are sold primarily based on image and marketing? It is about making and selling lots of cars at a profit. The rest is noise. You don’t have to buy the expensive product liability insurance.
Last edited by Sanlmar; 10-02-2019 at 08:12 AM.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Lol ... just funny at this point
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology...summon-feature
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