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    sleepy joe is fkn demented
    Druff is thinking the Biden gaffes are harmless.
    They're harmless to his poll numbers. He's been a stuttering mess in all the debates and it hasn't affected his poll numbers.

     
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    Here's some light reading as you watch "reasonable" Klobuchar speak at this debate: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...-a-decade.html

    11 months old but is still




    With that said, I'd rather have her as President than anyone else on that stage.

     
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    If you think she beats up her staff, just wait until you see what she'll do to Donald Trump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIT this View Post
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    Druff is thinking the Biden gaffes are harmless.
    They're harmless to his poll numbers. He's been a stuttering mess in all the debates and it hasn't affected his poll numbers.
    Correct.

    Biden has been a gaffe machine his whole career. It's not just because he's old now. This is what held him back from progressing beyond Senator, and he only became VP because Obama was nervous about losing Pennsylvania, and he chose Biden before the 2008 financial crash pretty much assured his election anyway.

    People who like Biden have known about his faults for decades, so gaffes at the debates (or any other time) don't hurt him.

    Similarly, Trump's outrageous behavior doesn't hurt him much, because again, his supporters already know and accept it about him.

    Candidates lose support when their existing supporters learn new details about them which are troublesome. If the supporters have already accepted a candidate's existing faults, then it's a lot harder to knock them down. The only way to eclipse such candidates is to generate excitement about yourself, to where people jump over to you because they like you, not because the other guy sucks. This is what Barack Obama did to Hillary in 2008. Bernie tried to do it to Hillary in 2016, but he stumbled because black voters didn't like him, and honestly he had little appeal outside of young people and white rural Democrats.

     
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    Pete was very flat. I think he might get 4th in Iowa now.

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    No idea why they didn't attack Biden.

    Now he's going to skate through and win this thing. Huge mistake.


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    Yep, Biden got off very easy in the last debate before voting happens. Debate could've been much worse for him. I think little Amy and Pete want admin jobs as a backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    They're harmless to his poll numbers. He's been a stuttering mess in all the debates and it hasn't affected his poll numbers.
    Correct.

    Biden has been a gaffe machine his whole career. It's not just because he's old now. This is what held him back from progressing beyond Senator, and he only became VP because Obama was nervous about losing Pennsylvania, and he chose Biden before the 2008 financial crash pretty much assured his election anyway.

    People who like Biden have known about his faults for decades, so gaffes at the debates (or any other time) don't hurt him.

    Similarly, Trump's outrageous behavior doesn't hurt him much, because again, his supporters already know and accept it about him.

    Candidates lose support when their existing supporters learn new details about them which are troublesome. If the supporters have already accepted a candidate's existing faults, then it's a lot harder to knock them down. The only way to eclipse such candidates is to generate excitement about yourself, to where people jump over to you because they like you, not because the other guy sucks. This is what Barack Obama did to Hillary in 2008. Bernie tried to do it to Hillary in 2016, but he stumbled because black voters didn't like him, and honestly he had little appeal outside of young people and white rural Democrats.
    Except that many Republicans who simply would never vote for Hillary might now be shopping the Democratic side. There is no momentum and blind acceptance from these folk. I consider myself among them. I never paid any serious attention to Biden, Sanders, Mayor Pete previously.

    Maybe voters like me aren’t important.

    Democrats are gonna fuck this up.

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    Warren had some words for Sanders after the debate, and rejected his handshake


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIT this View Post
    Warren had some words for Sanders after the debate, and rejected his handshake


    lol..


    right now iowa is up for grabs.

    petey, bernie and biden. anyone of the 3 can take it down .

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ucus-6731.html
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    ngl I like angry bernie. Like I get that his policies are probably kinda trash, but I like him on a personal level.

     
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    *fuck* warren.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Correct.

    Biden has been a gaffe machine his whole career. It's not just because he's old now. This is what held him back from progressing beyond Senator, and he only became VP because Obama was nervous about losing Pennsylvania, and he chose Biden before the 2008 financial crash pretty much assured his election anyway.

    People who like Biden have known about his faults for decades, so gaffes at the debates (or any other time) don't hurt him.

    Similarly, Trump's outrageous behavior doesn't hurt him much, because again, his supporters already know and accept it about him.

    Candidates lose support when their existing supporters learn new details about them which are troublesome. If the supporters have already accepted a candidate's existing faults, then it's a lot harder to knock them down. The only way to eclipse such candidates is to generate excitement about yourself, to where people jump over to you because they like you, not because the other guy sucks. This is what Barack Obama did to Hillary in 2008. Bernie tried to do it to Hillary in 2016, but he stumbled because black voters didn't like him, and honestly he had little appeal outside of young people and white rural Democrats.
    Except that many Republicans who simply would never vote for Hillary might now be shopping the Democratic side. There is no momentum and blind acceptance from these folk. I consider myself among them. I never paid any serious attention to Biden, Sanders, Mayor Pete previously.

    Maybe voters like me aren’t important.

    Democrats are gonna fuck this up.
    More or less where I’ve been at for 3 years. Im willing to consider a better option. Don’t see one.

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    Not only can't a woman become President of the United States, she can't become Vice President.

    If a woman became President she would age much faster than normal.

    It would be a losing ticket.

    Remember Geraldine Ferraro and Walter Mondale in 1984?


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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    I'm kind of feeling like Warren is about to explode and go really hard on Bernie.

    Will probably be the first genuine moment of her campaign.

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    I'm guessing Warren approached him and said something like, "Why did you lie up there? You know you told me that a woman will have a harder time winning. Why are you trying to make me look like the liar when it's you?"

    And Bernie was all, "Meh", and just turned around and walked away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I'm guessing Warren approached him and said something like, "Why did you lie up there? You know you told me that a woman will have a harder time winning. Why are you trying to make me look like the liar when it's you?"

    And Bernie was all, "Meh", and just turned around and walked away.
    Yep, I'm guessing she said something along those lines too. She wants to drum up more media buzz about this story while acting like she doesn't really want to talk about it. Guess we could just ask Steyer what was said since he was right there and nobody cares about him

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    imagine taking pride in something so pathetic as voting for one of these babies

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