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Thread: Mikki Mase -- casino crusher, liar, or scammer?

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    I’ll throw is one up before hand. Haven’t made a bet in two months, too busy working.


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    Guys always check the payout chart on these video roulette machines. I’ve seen this before & taken advantage of it. They screw you on the normal payout 34 to 1, which should be 35 to 1. They can do that because it’s considered a slot machine, but on occasion they have a glitch in the machines & they actually payout 36 to 1 on some of these machines. So I leverage my bets in a way to grind out a potential profit. Max bet on any position is 90 dollars so it’s a real grind to say the least, but the house edge is now 1.25%.

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    Those payouts are 34 for 1 and 36 for 1. The 2nd is identical to a standard 0/00 live roulette wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    Those payouts are 34 for 1 and 36 for 1. The 2nd is identical to a standard 0/00 live roulette wheel.
    I was under the impression the standard live wheel 0/00 was in-fact 35 to 1. 🤷*♂️

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    Never mind I read the payout chart wrong. It’s already adding your risk amount back to what it pays. So when it says pays 36 it’s actually 35 to 1. As you see on the straight bets it pays 2 which is actually an even bet. So some of those machines are really fucking you on single numbers paying out only 33 to 1. Talk about a motherfucking advantage added on to already the normal house edge.

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    It all depends on the word. Either “For” or “to”.


    “For” 1 - house keeps original bet.

    “To” 1 - original bet is returned with win.

    36 For 1 is the same as 35 to 1

    This is often done for two reasons. 1) To make a player believe they are getting paid a diff amount than they really are. 2) legal issues in certain jurisdictions, the original wager either has to be paid back to the player with a player win or collected with a player win.

     
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    Beat the Jerk. You’re an idiot. Stop gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDough View Post
    Beat the Jerk. You’re an idiot. Stop gambling.
    Nice word to period ratio by this scholar. Look I can smell the frustration & animosity with your gambling in 3 short fuckin’ dumbass sentences. I will not stop gambling. When I decide to gamble in a particular month, I have a budget for it & never exceed it. If I never gambled in my life I could honestly say I would have made less money in my lifetime. So there’s that, what else you got for me ?

     
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    Brand new propaganda piece. I’ll try to listen 2x at some point but I’m sure it’s 99 percent BS as usual.

    Be interesting to see if Nick pushes back on him. But his podcasts guests are largely regulars on Hustler Casino Live, so of course you can’t expect him to interrogate them.


     
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    Mikki: “Over the last 24 months, I beat Vegas for a little over 30 million” LOL

    Such a lying Buffoon

     
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    11:13 mark

    Nick: “You don’t look like someone that would be a genius”

    Mikki: “Haha That’s fair”

    Only 11 minutes in, at least Nick isn’t going soft on him.

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    This is where I have to say just how valuable ZD is in the Chrissy thread breaking down his nonsense. There is so much to unpack here but I just not feeling well enough to do a full breakdown.

    A few random notes/thoughts-

    1. This is a new level of absurdity. I understand why Christopher Mitchell lies. He needs it to sell the dream. But Mikki doesn’t need to do this. He clearly has access (at times) to huge sums of money. It’s almost like Chrissy is conning people for sustainability, but Mikki is conning himself in some sort of search for identity. That part I get. But there is clearly some major shit going on in his pathology that is way above my pay grade.

    2. The lies are just stacking up to a level where your head is just about to explode if you hear one more. This fucking “algorithm” is going to sell for $50 million. JFC. He is in Nick’s studio, looking at him in the face, and just talking out of his ass for 2.5 hours. Nick knows he’s fucking lying. But is this where we are now….b/c the guy is a whale & may play in future livestreams he can just lie to your face all day & it’s all good?

    Look, I’m not being critical of Nick. Nick probably didn’t watch or listen to any of Mikki’s previous interviews. These are the ways his interviews go. He doesn’t really press. I get that it isn’t that kind of show. But for the love of Christ man, how can you just sit there and be bullshitted to this level without losing your shit? This is Nick Vertucci, we know he loses his shit. We’ve seen it many times now…. I digress.

    3. So his tits are all in a twist because Berkey said the truth…that he will always suck at poker. Mikki tilts easily & has no patience. Name any stake and he will be a loser. It doesn’t take a genius to see that. Mikki is the fucking whale at the table. Mikki has put out so much bullshit into the ether and he can’t take just a little criticism. He has to demean Berkey like he’s better than him? I can say one thing unequivocally….Berkey is a better person than Mikki will ever be. But that’s not how Mikki keeps score.

    4. No one is trying to tear Mikki down. We just don’t like being constantly lied to. Have all your money, drugs, woman, etc. Have a fucking blast. But if your gonna go on a poker related podcast and spout out lies for hours, yes people will take exception.

    All I got for now.

    Oh yeah…his two best friends died this year and that’s why he hasn’t been on stream. Last night he was T-boned by a drunk driver apparently but somehow already had surgery. He needs to inquire with the surgeon if he is cleared to play in the big games on Hustler later this week. Ok my head is about to fucking explode for real…..

     
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    This has to be some of the funniest shit I have ever heard…

    You have to listen to it, to fully appreciate it.



    11:20 mark
    Mikki:
    “I took all the test and they all came back HIGH IQ, HIGH INTELLIGENCE… Yeah GENIUS yeah uh GENIUS ya” LOOOOLLL

    The last part was priceless where he affirms his genius title. “Yeah uh Genius Ya.” Lol

    There is absolutely nothing off limits to this guy! I wouldn’t be surprised if he says he flew to Pluto.

    I just can’t listen anymore, this guy is to much…
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    One of the most tilting parts of the interview is when Nick brings up Mikki basically getting the stamp of approval from Spencer Cornelia. Mikki then goes on to misrepresent what Spencer said, but that is Spencer’s fault for leaving that door way open. I haven’t looked at Spencer’s channel for a while but here is a video where he does justify taking a few thousand dollars from what appears to be a scam charity for promotion….



    I don’t know shit about the FTX stuff. But I see a bunch of videos about Spencer regarding him basically protecting some people. I can’t say anything other than there appears to be something off there, but Spencer could also easily be being used to get views for these smaller channels. I honestly have no idea and it’s way too big a topic, which I’m totally unschooled on, for me to make a judgment. But there is smoke out there for sure.

    Spencer has become a very successful guy exposing scammers and should be held to a high standard when it comes to anything shady. I totally understand him making mistakes. It appears he has a problem owning them. The way he handled Mikki & this scam charity controversy are pretty goddam awful. He seems like a dude who could admit a mistake. But with Mikki he has bent over backwards to not correct the record. With this tree planting charity he probably should of returned the money & admitted it was a mistake. But he justified it all. I’ve lost total respect for the guy tbh.

    Makes you think was this about helping people & making money at the same time or was it just a good gimmick to build a channel. I think it’s more the latter. Any criticism he gets is probably washed away when he looks at his YT revenue.
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    At 5:55 this guy goes into Spencer. Talks about him being friends with “scammy individuals”. Seems very credible. Channel has over 100K subs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Brand new propaganda piece. I’ll try to listen 2x at some point but I’m sure it’s 99 percent BS as usual.

    Be interesting to see if Nick pushes back on him. But his podcasts guests are largely regulars on Hustler Casino Live, so of course you can’t expect him to interrogate them.


    Quick note here. Nick announced in the Hustler Live Chat that he does not see Veronica Brill co-hosting the show with him anymore and wishes her well. Kind of a weird time to announce this. From the outside seems like Veronica’s friendship with Berkey has put her in such an awkward situation. I’m sure there is more to it as well. But it’s one thing for Nick & Matt to not like each other. It’s a whole other thing to let a dirtbag like Mikki bury him on your podcast. He could of edited that out. Probably the final straw.

    It got me upset to watch Mikki basically say his life is so much better than Berkey's. Then Nick makes a snarky remark about Berkey playing on stake. I never met Berkey but this was just very cringe. I could only imagine how a true friend of his would react.

    I also of course don’t want to see anyone hurt or die. If Mikki had two close friends die & was injured badly by a drunk driver, I feel for him on a human level. And I really hope he’s being truthful in those instances.

     
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    Nick Vertucci goes out of his way to say what a "nice guy" mikki is many times when he nick was doing commentary for a mikki game.

    Nick probably has his eyes on mikki's money off the table as well. Two scammers trying to out scam eachother.


    Also, no chance im going to watch that garbage, i cant put myself through it.
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    They discuss at 27:45 and you want to talk about a total owning of Mikki. It’s Adam22 who calls him a scam artist. It’s Adam22 who says he didn’t know Mikki & didn’t care to have another poker player on the show after Phil Helmuth (Of course Mikki says they are boys from way back). Berkey just basically says he’s never going to be good at poker. Mikki should be angry at Adam22. Btw good on Adam for being real here. I can see how he has had so much success with his podcast. Good on him. Good on Berkey as well. Mikki and to a lesser extent Nick look bad for this tirade.



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    Appears the surgeon has not medically cleared Mikki for tonight’s game.

    https://twitter.com/HCLPokerShow/status/1603497880651591680

    BTW don’t want to see anyone hurt or injured. But of course Mikki is injured in just about the most sympathetic way possible. By a drunk driver. Who the fuck knows. But hope he gets well soon regardless.

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    JD, it looks like he is busy with his presidential duties… lol


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    Apparently they have top notch Dr’s there at Walter Reed Medical Center

     
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