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    But according to a new paper by researchers from Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh, this does not paint the full picture. The researchers analysed more than 5 million survey responses by a range of different demographic details, and classed those people who would “probably” or “definitely” not choose to get vaccinated as “vaccine hesitant.”

    highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D.
    Did you read the whole study or just cherry pick out some quotes without giving context?

    Also you can have a phd but still be on team Trump. College grad+ ~36% Trump in the 2016 election.
    J&J

    We begin with the Johnson & Johnson Company of New Jersey. On July 21, 2021 J&J and three other smaller drug makers agreed to pay a staggering $26 billion damages to a group of US states for their role in causing America’s opioid epidemic. Of that J&J will pay $5 billion. The CDC estimates that use of the highly-addictive opioids as painkillers caused at least 500,000 deaths between 1999 and 2019. Johnson & Johnson is accused of pushing the deadly painkillers for excessive use and downplaying their addiction risks. They knew better.

    The same J&J is in a huge legal battle for knowingly using a carcinogen in its famous baby powder. A 2018 Reuters investigation found J&J knew for decades that asbestos, a known carcinogen, lurked in its baby powder and other cosmetic talc products. The company is reportedly considering legally splitting its baby powder division into a small separate company that would then declare bankruptcy to avoid large payouts. The J&J covid vaccine, unlike that from Pfizer and Moderna, does not use mRNA genetic alteration.

    The two global covid vaccine makers which have by far the largest market to date are the two being personally promoted by Fauci. These are from Pfizer in alliance with the tiny German BioNTech company under the name Comirnaty, and from the US biotech Moderna.

    Pfizer

    Pfizer, one of the world’s largest vaccine makers by sales, was founded in 1849 in the USA. It also has one of the most criminal records of fraud, corruption, falsification and proven damage. A 2010 Canadian study noted, “Pfizer has been a “habitual offender,” persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results.” That’s serious. Note that Pfizer has yet to make fully public details of its covid vaccine studies for external examination.

    The list of Pfizer crimes has gotten longer since 2010. It is currently engaged in lawsuits related to charges its Zantac heartburn medication is contaminated with a cancer-causing substance. As well, Pfizer received the biggest drug-related fine in US history in 2009 as part of a $2.3 Billion plea deal for mis-promoting medicines Bextra and Celebrex and paying kickbacks to compliant doctors. Pfizer pleaded guilty to the felony of marketing four drugs including Bextra “with the intent to defraud or mislead.” They were forced to withdraw their arthritis painkiller Bextra in the USA and EU for causing heart attacks, strokes, and serious skin disease.

    Clearly in a move to boost revenue, Pfizer illegally paid doctors kickbacks for “off-label” use of more than one of its drug which resulted in patients being injured or killed. Among them were Bextra (valdecoxib); Geodon (ziprasidone HCl), an atypical antipsychotic; Zyvox (linezolid), an antibiotic; Lyrica (pregabalin), a seizure medication; its famous Viagra (sildenafil), an erectile dysfunction drug; and Lipitor (atorvastatin), a cholesterol drug.

    In another court trial, Pfizer subsidiaries were forced to pay $142 million and release company documents that showed it was illegally marketing gabapentin for off-label use. “Data revealed in a string of U.S. lawsuits indicates the drug was promoted by the drug company as a treatment for pain, migraines and bipolar disorder – even though it wasn’t effective in treating these conditions and was actually toxic in certain cases, according to the Therapeutics Initiative, an independent drug research group at the University of British Columbia. The trials forced the company to release all of its studies on the drug, including the ones it kept hidden.”

    In 2004 Pfizer subsidiary Warner-Lambert was forced to pay $430 to settle criminal charges and civil liability arising from its fraudulent marketing practices with respect to Neurontin, its brand for the drug gabapentin. Originally developed for the treatment of epilepsy, Neurontin was illegally promoted off-label for the treatment of neurological pain, and in particular for migraine and bipolar disorder – even though it wasn’t effective in treating these conditions and was actually toxic in some cases. Neurontin for unapproved uses made up some 90% of the $2.7 billion in sales in 2003.

    A New York Times report disclosed in 2010 that Pfizer “…paid about $20 million to 4,500 doctors and other medical professionals in the United States for consulting and speaking on its behalf in the last six months of 2009.” It paid another $15.3 million to 250 academic medical centers and other research groups for clinical trials. In the US legal practice it is seldom that corporate executives actually doing the criminal deeds are prosecuted. The result is that court fines can be treated as “business costs” in this cynical milieu. In eight years of repeated malfeasance through 2009, Pfizer accumulated just under $3 billion in fines and civil penalties, about a third of one year’s net revenues.

    In 2020 as its covid vaccine was in development, Pfizer paid $13,150,000 in lobbying Congress and officials in Washington among others. Also notable is the fact that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation own shares of both Pfizer and their partner in the leading mRNA vaccine, BioNTech of Germany.

    Moderna

    The third covid vaccine producer today with FDA Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is Moderna of Cambridge, Massachusetts. It has yet to be sued for illegal practices unlike J&J or Pfizer. But that fact is likely only because before its EUA for its mRNA experimental vaccine, in its ten years existence since 2010 it had failed to get FDA approval to market a single medicine, despite repeated failed attempts. However Moderna has a red neon sign that reads “conflict of interest” that should give pause.

    Moderna and Fauci’s NIAID have collaborated on development of vaccines using Moderna’s mRNA platform and NIAID of Fauci on coronaviruses including MERS, since at least November, 2015. On January 13, 2020, before the first case of a supposed Wuhan, China “novel coronavirus” was even detected in the United States, Fauci’s NIAID and Moderna signed an updated cooperation agreement which described them as co-owners of a mRNA based coronavirus and that they had finalized a sequence for mRNA-1273, the vaccine now being given to millions for supposedly averting the novel coronavirus. That means that Fauci’s NIAID and perhaps Fauci personally (it’s allowed in the US) stood to reap huge financial benefits from emergency approval of the Moderna jab, yet Fauci has never admitted to the conflict publicly when he was Trump corona adviser, nor as Biden’s.

    Ten days later on January 23, 2020 Moderna announced it was granted funding by CEPI, a vaccine fund created by Bill Gates’ foundation along with Davos WEF among others, to develop an mRNA vaccine for the Wuhan virus.

    Moderna was created by a venture capitalist, Noubar Afeyan along with Harvard professor Timothy A. Springer, and others. In 2011 Afeyan recruited French businessman and former Eli Lilly executive Stephane Bancel as CEO of the new Moderna. Despite having no medical or science degree nor any experience running a drug development operation, Bancel lists himself as co-patent holder for a hundred patents of Moderna tied to the different vaccines. Beginning in 2013 the tiny Moderna was receiving grants from the Pentagon to develop its mRNA technology. As of 2020 just prior to its receiving emergency use authorization from the US Government FDA, fully 89% of Moderna revenues were from US Government grants. This is hardly an experienced company yet it holds the fate of millions in its hands. As Fauci says, “Trust the Science.”

    In February 2016, an editorial in Nature magazine criticized Moderna for not publishing any peer-reviewed papers on its technology, unlike most other emerging and established biotech companies. The company remains ultra-secretive. That same year, 2016 Moderna got $20 million from the Gates Foundation for vaccine development using mRNA.

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    https://www.rt.com/usa/531275-fauci-...beagles-abuse/

    “Fauci’s budget has ballooned to over $6 billion in taxpayer funding annually, at least half of which is being wasted on more questionable animal experimentation like these deadly and unnecessary beagle tests and other maximum pain experiments,” Justin Goodman of White Coat Waste told the Daily Caller. Earlier this year, the WCW documented NIAID’s pain experiments on a variety of animals.

    Emails obtained by WCW indicate the study began in November 2020 and is scheduled to end in early 2022. According to the documentation, some 28 beagles would be infected and euthanized after 196 days, for blood collection and analysis. This means the dogs may have already been killed in June this year.

    The WCW has published a photo of one infested dog, and a screenshot of an email mentioning how a group of animals was “vocalizing in pain” after being injected with the second dose of the experimental vaccine, the name of which was redacted.

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    They “shot dead rescue dogs”. If they were already dead, I don’t see what the problem is. It’s not like they were bashing in baby seal’s heads with baseball bats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    Did you read the whole study or just cherry pick out some quotes without giving context?

    Also you can have a phd but still be on team Trump. College grad+ ~36% Trump in the 2016 election.
    It’s been posted like twenty times. I read it and it came from some online poll where you reported your own education level. It wasn’t like they called PHDs, you simply clicked a button saying you were. And it was like some low 20s %, which means almost 80% still thought it was idiotic to not be. I mean even in the event it was true, and not worthless, probably half the PHDs in the US are foreign born students iirc., many from super religious counties. It’s like 1% of the US population. It was just in general a useless poll and not really indicative of anything as it was consistently the more education, the more likely to be vaccinated, until you got to this small group of PHDs, and there was a rise, but still only slightly above 20%. Why it keeps being spammed I have no idea.
    Correct. A completely unscientific poll with no statistical validity whatsoever. This is why anti-vaxxers and Trumptards love it. The less true it is the more they cling to it, whether it’s corona, “voter fraud,” anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
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    It’s been posted like twenty times. I read it and it came from some online poll where you reported your own education level. It wasn’t like they called PHDs, you simply clicked a button saying you were. And it was like some low 20s %, which means almost 80% still thought it was idiotic to not be. I mean even in the event it was true, and not worthless, probably half the PHDs in the US are foreign born students iirc., many from super religious counties. It’s like 1% of the US population. It was just in general a useless poll and not really indicative of anything as it was consistently the more education, the more likely to be vaccinated, until you got to this small group of PHDs, and there was a rise, but still only slightly above 20%. Why it keeps being spammed I have no idea.
    Correct. A completely unscientific poll with no statistical validity whatsoever. This is why anti-vaxxers and Trumptards love it. The less true it is the more they cling to it, whether it’s corona, “voter fraud,” anything.
    I think a lot of Carnegie Mellon and came away with a few negative thoughts. The most fake thing about it was the “even if it proves to work and be safe I’ll still never take it” amount of responses. That’s not PHD-speak.

    I can’t think of a single PHD holder in a science that thinks like that. It’s always they might not do something now, but are open to further evidence. That’s all actual science. So you’re left with the fake basket weaving PHDs from online universities or some PHD in some niche subject matter, but those people are like 90% liberals.

    So most likely someone just wrote a bot that fucked with the poll or it was brought to the attention on some anti tax Facebook group to click PHD as no one verified it, as it made no sense that it went all one direction until PHD level. Or they got people who have some serious religious view that despite it being proven and safe, Mohammed/Jesus/Shiva wouldn’t approve. Or the two authors, both women, are liberal vaccines cause autism holdovers from 1999. Those still exist. Either way, something was off badly with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    Correct. A completely unscientific poll with no statistical validity whatsoever. This is why anti-vaxxers and Trumptards love it. The less true it is the more they cling to it, whether it’s corona, “voter fraud,” anything.
    I think a lot of Carnegie Mellon and came away with a few negative thoughts. The most fake thing about it was the “even if it proves to work and be safe I’ll still never take it” amount of responses. That’s not PHD-speak.

    I can’t think of a single PHD holder in a science that thinks like that. It’s always they might not do something now, but are open to further evidence. That’s all actual science. So you’re left with the fake basket weaving PHDs from online universities or some PHD in some niche subject matter, but those people are like 90% liberals.

    So most likely someone just wrote a bot that fucked with the poll or it was brought to the attention on some anti tax Facebook group to click PHD as no one verified it, as it made no sense that it went all one direction until PHD level. Or they got people who have some serious religious view that despite it being proven and safe, Mohammed/Jesus/Shiva wouldn’t approve. Or the two authors, both women, are liberal vaccines cause autism holdovers from 1999. Those still exist. Either way, something was off badly with it.


    typical shitlib viewpoint

    "this poll doesn't align with my views therefore it must be flawed"

    go snort more coke faggot

    funny how you never question shit that you agree with dweeb

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post

    I think a lot of Carnegie Mellon and came away with a few negative thoughts. The most fake thing about it was the “even if it proves to work and be safe I’ll still never take it” amount of responses. That’s not PHD-speak.

    I can’t think of a single PHD holder in a science that thinks like that. It’s always they might not do something now, but are open to further evidence. That’s all actual science. So you’re left with the fake basket weaving PHDs from online universities or some PHD in some niche subject matter, but those people are like 90% liberals.

    So most likely someone just wrote a bot that fucked with the poll or it was brought to the attention on some anti tax Facebook group to click PHD as no one verified it, as it made no sense that it went all one direction until PHD level. Or they got people who have some serious religious view that despite it being proven and safe, Mohammed/Jesus/Shiva wouldn’t approve. Or the two authors, both women, are liberal vaccines cause autism holdovers from 1999. Those still exist. Either way, something was off badly with it.


    typical shitlib viewpoint

    "this poll doesn't align with my views therefore it must be flawed"

    go snort more coke faggot

    funny how you never question shit that you agree with dweeb
    It’s invalid because it was done in a completely unscientific manner and cannot be trusted. If you understood science or even statistics you’d know that.

    Love the troll game though. You’ve even got Daly in a lather, which is tough to do.

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    If this was a movie script it would be rejected. They’d say, “Nobody is going to believe people could be this stupid.”

    https://twitter.com/azcentral/status/1429902307261566984

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptoNinja View Post
    If this was a movie script it would be rejected. They’d say, “Nobody is going to believe people could be this stupid.”

    https://twitter.com/azcentral/status/1429902307261566984
    good bot

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptoNinja View Post
    If this was a movie script it would be rejected. They’d say, “Nobody is going to believe people could be this stupid.”

    https://twitter.com/azcentral/status/1429902307261566984
    Seemingly I do not have the full story because all I see is that there was an outbreak amongst a group of workers. What did they do that has you calling them stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CryptoNinja View Post
    If this was a movie script it would be rejected. They’d say, “Nobody is going to believe people could be this stupid.”

    https://twitter.com/azcentral/status/1429902307261566984
    Seemingly I do not have the full story because all I see is that there was an outbreak amongst a group of workers. What did they do that has you calling them stupid?
    see, they caught a highly contagious respiratory virus, they're stupid as fuck!

    laugh at sick people!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CryptoNinja View Post
    If this was a movie script it would be rejected. They’d say, “Nobody is going to believe people could be this stupid.”

    https://twitter.com/azcentral/status/1429902307261566984
    Seemingly I do not have the full story because all I see is that there was an outbreak amongst a group of workers. What did they do that has you calling them stupid?
    They were stupid before this. Delaying their fake audit because of the coronavirus is just hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post

    Seemingly I do not have the full story because all I see is that there was an outbreak amongst a group of workers. What did they do that has you calling them stupid?
    see, they caught a highly contagious respiratory virus, they're stupid as fuck!

    laugh at sick people!
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    I’m just saying, if you pitched me:

    There’s a group of people trying to sell the idea that the Presidential election, which was decided by the largest margin ever, was rigged. Not only was it the biggest turnout ever (possibly because an airborne deadly disease made it easy for people to vote) but the incumbent who lost also had the worst approval numbers ever, lied to the American public about the seriousness of the disease, lost the popular vote the first time and was impeached before losing the election. Despite all this, and a recount, and a forensic audit in the state of Arizona (which has been trending blue for a decade) which found no fraud, the State Senate orders a 3rd “audit” by a clearly biased and uncertified group with no election auditing experience. A full 7 months after the election was certified, the “audit team” still hasn’t produced a report, and betcha didn’t see this coming, they get the disease and one of them is hospitalized and might die and still the followers of this political party mostly believe:

    1) The election really was rigged, despite 60+ court cases where lawyers, judges and election officials reviewed the issues and found no fraud.
    and
    2) The disease isn’t real, or isn’t as bad as the side effects from the vaccine and you shouldn’t wear a mask to protect yourself even though over 600k people have died from it.

    One might say, “No way are people that stupid.”

    But they are. The lesson to be learned is when someone says “I don’t believe people are that stupid.” you should offer to bet them. Always bet on people being even stupider than you thought possible.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptoNinja View Post
    I’m just saying, if you pitched me:

    There’s a group of people trying to sell the idea that the Presidential election, which was decided by the largest margin ever, was rigged. Not only was it the biggest turnout ever (possibly because an airborne deadly disease made it easy for people to vote) but the incumbent who lost also had the worst approval numbers ever, lied to the American public about the seriousness of the disease, lost the popular vote the first time and was impeached before losing the election. Despite all this, and a recount, and a forensic audit in the state of Arizona (which has been trending blue for a decade) which found no fraud, the State Senate orders a 3rd “audit” by a clearly biased and uncertified group with no election auditing experience. A full 7 months after the election was certified, the “audit team” still hasn’t produced a report, and betcha didn’t see this coming, they get the disease and one of them is hospitalized and might die and still the followers of this political party mostly believe:

    1) The election really was rigged, despite 60+ court cases where lawyers, judges and election officials reviewed the issues and found no fraud.
    and
    2) The disease isn’t real, or isn’t as bad as the side effects from the vaccine and you shouldn’t wear a mask to protect yourself even though over 600k people have died from it.

    One might say, “No way are people that stupid.”

    But they are. The lesson to be learned is when someone says “I don’t believe people are that stupid.” you should offer to bet them. Always bet on people being even stupider than you thought possible.
    ok, that makes more sense. thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
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    I’m just saying, if you pitched me:

    There’s a group of people trying to sell the idea that the Presidential election, which was decided by the largest margin ever, was rigged. Not only was it the biggest turnout ever (possibly because an airborne deadly disease made it easy for people to vote) but the incumbent who lost also had the worst approval numbers ever, lied to the American public about the seriousness of the disease, lost the popular vote the first time and was impeached before losing the election. Despite all this, and a recount, and a forensic audit in the state of Arizona (which has been trending blue for a decade) which found no fraud, the State Senate orders a 3rd “audit” by a clearly biased and uncertified group with no election auditing experience. A full 7 months after the election was certified, the “audit team” still hasn’t produced a report, and betcha didn’t see this coming, they get the disease and one of them is hospitalized and might die and still the followers of this political party mostly believe:

    1) The election really was rigged, despite 60+ court cases where lawyers, judges and election officials reviewed the issues and found no fraud.
    and
    2) The disease isn’t real, or isn’t as bad as the side effects from the vaccine and you shouldn’t wear a mask to protect yourself even though over 600k people have died from it.

    One might say, “No way are people that stupid.”

    But they are. The lesson to be learned is when someone says “I don’t believe people are that stupid.” you should offer to bet them. Always bet on people being even stupider than you thought possible.
    ok, that makes more sense. thank you
    I’ll give you a real world example. There are some real idiots that bought Bitcoin early. I believe, and a lot of really smart people agree with me, that Bitcoin really is a revolutionary technology that solves some very complicated issues in regards to the existence and function of a digital monetary system. However, some really smart people think it’s a scam. It doesn’t matter which one is true. If it’s a scam it is such a good scam that A LOT of people, especially the stupid ones, are going to fall for it. Either way the smart money is long.

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    Saw this in my YouTube feed just now:

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    Would have preferred that it was DeSantis, but as a resident of Texas, it couldn’t have happened to a better man.
    Too bad it wasn’t Dan Patrick...biggest dickhead in TX.
    You were right. Dan Patrick IS the biggest dickhead in TX.

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    The fucking anti-vaxx snowflakes are truly pathetic. Here’s one who works on the LA Fire Deparrment.

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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    The fucking anti-vaxx snowflakes are truly pathetic. Here’s one who works on the LA Fire Deparrment.

    Biggest pussies alive. Maybe if they gave them a Barney band aid to match their mental age, they might fare better. Too bad it’s not a pill you could hide in a treat like a dog, as they are a mixture of sub-human and mentally children. Cry you pudgy little bitch. Shots are scary and then you turn 8 for most men. Not these dudes.

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