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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    At a minimum its been suggested that the campaign (yeah you know who) needed a lot of money quickly, hence the urgency.

    The other reason is probably "better we steal it now before the democrats steal it from you".
    The "urgency" was that Trump was being outfundraised by Biden, and was behind in the polls. So yes, the campaign needed money quickly.

    So they scammed to get it. And that was very bad.

    It's still not clear whether Trump was told about this devious plan, or whether his campaign managers just promised him a big cash infusion, due to their innovative new fundraising skilllzzz.

    I'm actually now leaning more toward the latter than the former.

    Still, even if that's the case, I can't excuse Trump. It was his campaign, and it was his responsibility to read his own campaign e-mails, which were often written in his name.

    As weird as this will sound, if they were hurting so badly for money they basically had to steal in a theft by deception style manner, this might be the one case where the lower the amount stolen, the worse the harm it did.

    When I read the article, I thought people donating $500 are really bad people to jam up, and that $5k would cause less harm, and $50 possibly more harm.

    That’s counter-intuitive, but I think someone donating $5k to a stupid political campaign is far more likely to be able to handle another $15k stolen from them, and someone donating $500, that’s kind of borderline, but likely to be better able to handle it than someone giving $50. Like anyone donating $5k to Trump isn’t going to bounce shit or get their electric turned off if you jam them for another $15k. No one poor is ever donating $5k. Most donating $500 won’t be very poor where $2k grabbed out will get them bouncing stuff, but someone donating $50 getting $300 might literally hurt more.

    Moral of my theory. If you’re going to steal from donors if you’re jammed up and lagging in fundraising, steal from the largest donors. They are least likely to truly miss it and the biggest beneficiaries of his policies.

    Stepping back and looking at it like the average reader, if the story was about donors who donated $5k to Trump being scammed, I think it’s a less damaging story. Most would handwave away anyone who donates $5k getting scammed as some rich guy who will save more in taxes even if you hit them for another $15k.

    $500 is an amount many have donated to causes they believe in. It’s easier to find hard luck stories from $500. The story wouldn’t resonate if it was some poor guy saved up to donate $5k, as that story isn’t believable. Anyone who gives $5k to a candidate to piss away who doesn’t have another $20 million is a retard no one feels bad for.

    The second defector thing makes it look worse for him than original scam imo.

    I can easily see that it could be decisions made by underlings at unscrupulous fundraising outfits down the home stretch of a presidential race. He’s busy at that time and traveling everywhere.

    That the story goes national, and their response to it is this defector nonsense means he certainly has heard of it, approves of it, and wants it to continue when it’s used today in context of 2024.
    Last edited by BCR; 04-08-2021 at 04:32 PM.

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