**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

[BCR]

They legit bought into his BS and it drove behavior in a massive way.

and continues to do so.

Druff has found himself in the unenviable position of where the left has been with our fringe. Trying to defend at times indefensible shit.

The problem is his fringe is much larger as Trump is a unique freak of charisma to a whole lot of white people, as inexplicable as it is to me, and white people are still near 70%. So any weird fringe idea that takes hold and goes mainstream involves much larger numbers.

At the end of the day, you need votes and try to craft arguments for why ignorant assholes aren’t just ignorant assholes when they’re on your side.

Like I watch him try to defend Trump and I think of myself trying to craft sociological arguments around a BLM type movement and as soon as you think you have a good argument, some large segment of the movement go do something so stupid that you’re like fuck these assholes, they’re dead to me now. He just isn’t at that they’re dead to me part because he knows he needs their votes. You go from seeing things you agreed with when they were organic to hating what they morph into.

I don’t believe for a second he reads a split post or any other nutjob here and doesn’t cringe. He’s too smart not to. He’s simply more sympathetic to their views and when a thousand insane tweets come rolling in from conspiracy theorists, he doesn’t agree with it here, but he doesn’t make a post about it either.

But a few nurses who are no doubt attention seeking, but also is indicative of a mindset that exists and that paints his side in a bad light, he’s never missing that.

I’d love to think what emerges after all this bullshit is more sentiment like sloppy joe or gut saying these crazy motherfuckers here in Portland have made me less sympathetic to the fringe, or any of the republicans here who finally had enough of Trump would be the norm.

Where calling people who might vote your way assholes if they’re indeed assholes became the norm. Unfortunately that won’t happen. The genie is out of the bottle. We are on a downward spiral from all appearances and everyone appears entrenched despite being repulsed by a large faction of the people who happen to vote their way. They’re like bad relations you end up defending because they’re family.

[BCR]

I mean we had fifty posts going back and forth here trying to dissect snippets of YouTube videos and decide who were the assholes in DC this past weekend when the pretty obvious answer to who are the assholes here is all of the above. Anyone normal was home watching football or doing something more productive than screaming and shoving other morons.

[gimmick]

We closed 2 Health centers and their staff was only doing contact tracing. We closed everything non essential. Mask use was highly advised. Over 2k people self quarantined. Drive trough testing was already in place from spring. We're really good at social distancing. Oh and every public place where infected had been was publicized. And the app i mentioned was doing what it was supposed to do.

We have done all this and more in California and the virus eventually spreads anyway. Today the entire state is basically completely locked down again because the spread is out of control. Can’t stop this virus, can only slow it down until a vaccine. 200k cases a day and still tens of millions want to open the country completely back up. So many people with that mindset that this virus can’t lose. China can stop the spread because if people don’t listen they can just shoot them in the street. Communism is very effective in situations like this.

Large population centers likely should mostly focus on protecting the elderly. Small town America could have replicated the above with some success.

We went from almost no cases to 1-2% of population infected to back to almost no new cases in the span of 4 months. Theory and tools are pretty easy. Execution is the tricky part.

Our parents never let us forget that the only reason we still exist is because we pulled together when it mattered. We fought against Soviet Union 20 years after our civil war. Can't remember if we were the only ones that weren't invaded, but we stayed sovereign and never became part of the Eastern Bloc. In that context watching Netflix for a few months was manageable.

[limitles]

We have done all this and more in California and the virus eventually spreads anyway. Today the entire state is basically completely locked down again because the spread is out of control. Can’t stop this virus, can only slow it down until a vaccine. 200k cases a day and still tens of millions want to open the country completely back up. So many people with that mindset that this virus can’t lose. China can stop the spread because if people don’t listen they can just shoot them in the street. Communism is very effective in situations like this.

Large population centers likely should mostly focus on protecting the elderly. Small town America could have replicated the above with some success.

We went from almost no cases to 1-2% of population infected to back to almost no new cases in the span of 4 months. Theory and tools are pretty easy. Execution is the tricky part.

Our parents never let us forget that the only reason we still exist is because we pulled together when it mattered. We fought against Soviet Union 20 years after our civil war. Can't remember if we were the only ones that weren't invaded, but we stayed sovereign and never became part of the Eastern Bloc. In that context watching Netflix for a few months was manageable.

"Simuna" Häyhä ( 17 December 1905 – 1 April 2002) was a Finnish military sniper.

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(including 259 confirmed kills made by rifle),^[2] the highest number of sniper kills in any major war.

He used a Finnish-produced M/28-30 rifle, a variant of the Mosin–Nagant rifle, and a Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun.

[sonatine]

trump hasnt tweeted in almost 12 hours.


bullish?

[dwai]

trump hasnt tweeted in almost 12 hours.


bullish?

TDS?

[blake]

and continues to do so.

Druff has found himself in the unenviable position of where the left has been with our fringe. Trying to defend at times indefensible shit.

The problem is his fringe is much larger as Trump is a unique freak of charisma to a whole lot of white people, as inexplicable as it is to me, and white people are still near 70%. So any weird fringe idea that takes hold and goes mainstream involves much larger numbers.

At the end of the day, you need votes and try to craft arguments for why ignorant assholes aren’t just ignorant assholes when they’re on your side.

Like I watch him try to defend Trump and I think of myself trying to craft sociological arguments around a BLM type movement and as soon as you think you have a good argument, some large segment of the movement go do something so stupid that you’re like fuck these assholes, they’re dead to me now. He just isn’t at that they’re dead to me part because he knows he needs their votes. You go from seeing things you agreed with when they were organic to hating what they morph into.

I don’t believe for a second he reads a split post or any other nutjob here and doesn’t cringe. He’s too smart not to. He’s simply more sympathetic to their views and when a thousand insane tweets come rolling in from conspiracy theorists, he doesn’t agree with it here, but he doesn’t make a post about it either.

But a few nurses who are no doubt attention seeking, but also is indicative of a mindset that exists and that paints his side in a bad light, he’s never missing that.

I’d love to think what emerges after all this bullshit is more sentiment like sloppy joe or gut saying these crazy motherfuckers here in Portland have made me less sympathetic to the fringe, or any of the republicans here who finally had enough of Trump would be the norm.

Where calling people who might vote your way assholes if they’re indeed assholes became the norm. Unfortunately that won’t happen. The genie is out of the bottle. We are on a downward spiral from all appearances and everyone appears entrenched despite being repulsed by a large faction of the people who happen to vote their way. They’re like bad relations you end up defending because they’re family.

you know, for years we've heard how the left is enraged at the right, like with the trump derangement syndrome.

but it's the opposite that's true. team retard -- of which druff is a founding member -- is so mad at the blm sjw stuff (including the fact that a black man was elected president) that they knowingly elected a legit sociopath.

that's why even previously sane people like druff give extremely mild critiques, at best, of an intellectually disabled person.

their rage at the left simply won't let it happen.

[TheXFactor]

Trump was 'talked out of' launching a strike on Iran in punishment for 'hiding its nuclear weapons program' last week after his top advisers warned it could trigger a war - but he is 'still mulling options to punish Tehran'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sers-week.html

Not that you guys give a shit but Donald Trump is planning a military coup. Trump has fired top people at the Pentagon and is getting ready to replace top generals who will carry out his orders no matter what.

Trump is going to protect America from the hostile takeover from leftists liberals trying to steal the election.

“There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration,” - Mike Pompeo Secretary of State

[sonatine]

Druff has found himself in the unenviable position of where the left has been with our fringe. Trying to defend at times indefensible shit.

The problem is his fringe is much larger as Trump is a unique freak of charisma to a whole lot of white people, as inexplicable as it is to me, and white people are still near 70%. So any weird fringe idea that takes hold and goes mainstream involves much larger numbers.

At the end of the day, you need votes and try to craft arguments for why ignorant assholes aren’t just ignorant assholes when they’re on your side.

Like I watch him try to defend Trump and I think of myself trying to craft sociological arguments around a BLM type movement and as soon as you think you have a good argument, some large segment of the movement go do something so stupid that you’re like fuck these assholes, they’re dead to me now. He just isn’t at that they’re dead to me part because he knows he needs their votes. You go from seeing things you agreed with when they were organic to hating what they morph into.

I don’t believe for a second he reads a split post or any other nutjob here and doesn’t cringe. He’s too smart not to. He’s simply more sympathetic to their views and when a thousand insane tweets come rolling in from conspiracy theorists, he doesn’t agree with it here, but he doesn’t make a post about it either.

But a few nurses who are no doubt attention seeking, but also is indicative of a mindset that exists and that paints his side in a bad light, he’s never missing that.

I’d love to think what emerges after all this bullshit is more sentiment like sloppy joe or gut saying these crazy motherfuckers here in Portland have made me less sympathetic to the fringe, or any of the republicans here who finally had enough of Trump would be the norm.

Where calling people who might vote your way assholes if they’re indeed assholes became the norm. Unfortunately that won’t happen. The genie is out of the bottle. We are on a downward spiral from all appearances and everyone appears entrenched despite being repulsed by a large faction of the people who happen to vote their way. They’re like bad relations you end up defending because they’re family.

you know, for years we've heard how the left is enraged at the right, like with the trump derangement syndrome.

but it's the opposite that's true. team retard -- of which druff is a founding member -- is so mad at the blm sjw stuff (including the fact that a black man was elected president) that they knowingly elected a legit sociopath.

that's why even previously sane people like druff give extremely mild critiques, at best, of an intellectually disabled person.

their rage at the left simply won't let it happen.

you also have to assume that on some level, druff clearly expected to parlay some measure of fame and fortune from team retards ascension to glory and i think its safe to say that whatever ship he was expecting to come in, it has officially left without him, so now he's trying to rally whats left of retardia but its just coming off as panic.

the parallels between trump and druff's personalities are honestly clearer by the hour.

[Jayjami]

[QUOTE=sonatine;939905]

the parallels between trump and druff's personalities are honestly clearer by the hour.

They both refuse to ever admit they are wrong.

[Rick Sanchez]

I don't have much to add, but good shit on page 503. We could use more honest discourse like that. It almost feels productive!

[mickeycrimm]

You Bidentards won. Now we go from Trump's America First policies to China Joe Biden's America Last policies. Libtard idiocy.

[sonatine]

You Bidentards won. Now we go from Trump's America First policies to China Joe Biden's America Last policies. Good job...if you are a libtard idiot.

[thesidedish]

atine, why are ppl posting ITT instead of one of the few u actually got right. BITCOIN IS WORTH A SHIT TON MORON

[BCR]

Druff has found himself in the unenviable position of where the left has been with our fringe. Trying to defend at times indefensible shit.

The problem is his fringe is much larger as Trump is a unique freak of charisma to a whole lot of white people, as inexplicable as it is to me, and white people are still near 70%. So any weird fringe idea that takes hold and goes mainstream involves much larger numbers.

At the end of the day, you need votes and try to craft arguments for why ignorant assholes aren’t just ignorant assholes when they’re on your side.

Like I watch him try to defend Trump and I think of myself trying to craft sociological arguments around a BLM type movement and as soon as you think you have a good argument, some large segment of the movement go do something so stupid that you’re like fuck these assholes, they’re dead to me now. He just isn’t at that they’re dead to me part because he knows he needs their votes. You go from seeing things you agreed with when they were organic to hating what they morph into.

I don’t believe for a second he reads a split post or any other nutjob here and doesn’t cringe. He’s too smart not to. He’s simply more sympathetic to their views and when a thousand insane tweets come rolling in from conspiracy theorists, he doesn’t agree with it here, but he doesn’t make a post about it either.

But a few nurses who are no doubt attention seeking, but also is indicative of a mindset that exists and that paints his side in a bad light, he’s never missing that.

I’d love to think what emerges after all this bullshit is more sentiment like sloppy joe or gut saying these crazy motherfuckers here in Portland have made me less sympathetic to the fringe, or any of the republicans here who finally had enough of Trump would be the norm.

Where calling people who might vote your way assholes if they’re indeed assholes became the norm. Unfortunately that won’t happen. The genie is out of the bottle. We are on a downward spiral from all appearances and everyone appears entrenched despite being repulsed by a large faction of the people who happen to vote their way. They’re like bad relations you end up defending because they’re family.

you know, for years we've heard how the left is enraged at the right, like with the trump derangement syndrome.

but it's the opposite that's true. team retard -- of which druff is a founding member -- is so mad at the blm sjw stuff (including the fact that a black man was elected president) that they knowingly elected a legit sociopath.

that's why even previously sane people like druff give extremely mild critiques, at best, of an intellectually disabled person.

their rage at the left simply won't let it happen.

Druff is the only guy who can write a paragraph where I completely agree with him and completely disagree all at once.

Like let’s face it. Hollywood and academia has been pumping out a message that Christians and white kids are nerds to be mocked or have to apologize for shit they didn’t do. We have a bunch of poor white trash born in trailers being told to check their privilege. That gets beyond tiresome if you’re just some poor white dude working who occasionally attends church even. That’s where I agree with him that Trump is a reaction.

Then you had the rural old white people who did resent a black president.

Then you had the standard GOP tax break guys who went along for the ride because it’s better than the alternative.

No two of those groups are enough, but all 3? Thank god for mail in voting or Biden gets crushed. Trump is going to be at 75 million when it’s done.

So like I agree Trump is to a degree a pushback and result of shit that was never cool perpetuated by what’s thought of as the left, or at least the coastal elite. Not shit I associate with the left which is like workers rights and stuff I care about. But he’s given them a big hug and told them it’s ok to be some trailer kid, so when we call him stupid, they take it personal as fuck. He’s the first successful guy who ever was nice to them, even though it’s all fake and he wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. They believe crazy shit and he doesn’t tell them they’re crazy. Like McCain telling that lady she was wrong about Obama being a secret Muslim during that town hall. A class move. Probably hurt him. Trump isn’t ever doing that. He started it.

I don’t agree Trump was an appropriate answer. He’s just an ugly human being and inspires more ugliness, so yeah they kind of hated liberals before, but Trump put it on blast and they hate us. That’s cool. I hate some of them also.

[sonatine]

anyway you gotta wonder.

maybe if pam wasnt in love with jim during her whole ass relationship with roy, roy maybe wouldnt have been so angry and depressed.

i mean seriously the second he got away from pams relentless, obvious emotional manipulation, what happens?

boom, he starts a business, gets his shit together, hooks up with a fine woman.

pretty sure thats not a coincidence.

[Wiganer]

how do you explain how well south korea did with covid? they say it was early testing and quarantining that did it.

Different culture, different type of population.

In general, Asian cultures are much more reverential of government and willing to be bossed around by those in authority. That has its upside and downsides, but in a pandemic, obviously such a culture has an advantage.

Basically everyone was told to stay home, and to quarantine if they even suspected symptoms. It wasn't the testing that did it -- it was the mass cooperation from a population from 51 million which you'd never get out here.

The US began via a distrust of government and the assertion of the rights of the individual. These themes have been with us throughout US history. It has produced the most free society in world history, and many other positive things, but it also lends itself to being tough to fully control. This has become even more true as the partisan divide has become sharper, and half the population doesn't trust the other half.

Anyway, the short answer is that it's societal differences, not leadership differences. What was done in South Korea would have never worked over here, no matter who was President.

Brits and Yanks are selfish cunts, which is why the right is wrong.

[nightmarefish]

you know, for years we've heard how the left is enraged at the right, like with the trump derangement syndrome.

but it's the opposite that's true. team retard -- of which druff is a founding member -- is so mad at the blm sjw stuff (including the fact that a black man was elected president) that they knowingly elected a legit sociopath.

that's why even previously sane people like druff give extremely mild critiques, at best, of an intellectually disabled person.

their rage at the left simply won't let it happen.

Druff is the only guy who can write a paragraph where I completely agree with him and completely disagree all at once.

Like let’s face it. Hollywood and academia has been pumping out a message that Christians and white kids are nerds to be mocked or have to apologize for shit they didn’t do. We have a bunch of poor white trash born in trailers being told to check their privilege. That gets beyond tiresome if you’re just some poor white dude working who occasionally attends church even. That’s where I agree with him that Trump is a reaction.

Then you had the rural old white people who did resent a black president.

Then you had the standard GOP tax break guys who went along for the ride because it’s better than the alternative.

No two of those groups are enough, but all 3? Thank god for mail in voting or Biden gets crushed. Trump is going to be at 75 million when it’s done.

So like I agree Trump is to a degree a pushback and result of shit that was never cool perpetuated by what’s thought of as the left, or at least the coastal elite. Not shit I associate with the left which is like workers rights and stuff I care about. But he’s given them a big hug and told them it’s ok to be some trailer kid, so when we call him stupid, they take it personal as fuck. He’s the first successful guy who ever was nice to them, even though it’s all fake and he wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. They believe crazy shit and he doesn’t tell them they’re crazy. Like McCain telling that lady she was wrong about Obama being a secret Muslim during that town hall. A class move. Probably hurt him. Trump isn’t ever doing that. He started it.

I don’t agree Trump was an appropriate answer. He’s just an ugly human being and inspires more ugliness, so yeah they kind of hated liberals before, but Trump put it on blast and they hate us. That’s cool. I hate some of them also.

You mean they don't like being called team retard? wild

Great post as usual.

[sonatine]

rudy is billing 20k a day for this hilarity

[Walter Sobchak]

you know, for years we've heard how the left is enraged at the right, like with the trump derangement syndrome.

but it's the opposite that's true. team retard -- of which druff is a founding member -- is so mad at the blm sjw stuff (including the fact that a black man was elected president) that they knowingly elected a legit sociopath.

that's why even previously sane people like druff give extremely mild critiques, at best, of an intellectually disabled person.

their rage at the left simply won't let it happen.

you also have to assume that on some level, druff clearly expected to parlay some measure of fame and fortune from team retards ascension to glory and i think its safe to say that whatever ship he was expecting to come in, it has officially left without him, so now he's trying to rally whats left of retardia but its just coming off as panic.

the parallels between trump and druff's personalities are honestly clearer by the hour.

I myself am surprised at how mesmerized Druff is by Trump but it's not fair to say that they have a lot of similarities in their personality. Druff is stubborn, and I've seen him twist logic pretty far to justify a position while avoiding the actual point, but that does not equal "extreme narcissistic personality disorder exacerbated by decades of stimulant abuse." Druff is good people.