**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

[Walter Sobchak]

Y'all notice that mail-in balloting is leading to a huge controversy, and is polarizing the country even more?

Who called that one?

When my side loses, I admit it. While I still stand behind my assertion that universal mail-in balloting has a high potential for fraud, Trump did not lose Arizona/Wisconsin/Michigan by a small enough margin to where it likely matter. The only really close one of those three was Wisconsin, where Trump appears to have lost by about 20k votes. If it were 2k votes, he'd have a point that mail-in voting fraud could have made the difference. Not 20k in a state with 3.2m overall votes. So Trump really did lose.

At the same time, 20k isn't a large number of votes, and it's not totally inconceivable that Biden got an extra vote out of every 160 cast due to fraud. I don't believe that's the case, but it's not insane to believe that when you're using a system which is fraud prone.

The election is going to be contested, many on the right are never going to trust the results, Trump is going to assert he was cheated, and the country will become more divided than ever.

Universal mail-in balloting is going to be a disaster for this country.

Only for people who are willing to push proven false "voter fraud" narratives for their own cynical purposes. In other words, Republicans.

[Walter Sobchak]

Y'all notice that mail-in balloting is leading to a huge controversy, and is polarizing the country even more?

Who called that one?

When my side loses, I admit it. While I still stand behind my assertion that universal mail-in balloting has a high potential for fraud, Trump did not lose Arizona/Wisconsin/Michigan by a small enough margin to where it likely matter. The only really close one of those three was Wisconsin, where Trump appears to have lost by about 20k votes. If it were 2k votes, he'd have a point that mail-in voting fraud could have made the difference. Not 20k in a state with 3.2m overall votes. So Trump really did lose.

At the same time, 20k isn't a large number of votes, and it's not totally inconceivable that Biden got an extra vote out of every 160 cast due to fraud. I don't believe that's the case, but it's not insane to believe that when you're using a system which is fraud prone.

The election is going to be contested, many on the right are never going to trust the results, Trump is going to assert he was cheated, and the country will become more divided than ever.

Universal mail-in balloting is going to be a disaster for this country.

Notice how all those thousands of votes showed up in truckloads at 4 am from Democrat-run cities while everyone slept?

Massive fraud has occurred and if Trump can’t uncover and expose it this Election will go done in history as “The Steal”.

They're votes that have been arriving for months. Like it or not, vote by mail is legal.

You're an idiot.

CRY MORE BITCH

[Walter Sobchak]

ok great, but i'm just going to need you to act like a human every once in a while and call out the more obvious of the problems like trump to trying to cause a civil war

you're just part of them now

I'm not part of "them".

I am stating something obvious -- that you can't hastily slap a fraud-prone voting system into place, and expect people to respect the results of a close election. This is true even if both candidates are typical politicians, rather than a narcissist like Trump.

It's also bad optics when that weird hybrid mail/in-person system produces one winner on election night, and a different winner the next morning. I understand it, and am not complaining. However, this adds to the shady appearance, and the country's faith in the entire election falls apart.

Trump shouldn't be doing what he's doing, but this system itself is the root cause. There would be massive distrust even if Trump said nothing and conceded.

No problem, just convince your republican friends in the senate to unclench their assholes and spend the money necessary to modernize our voting system so people don't have to wait in line for 8 hours, and put in a process for absentee voting that addresses your concerns while still enabling people who need to vote absentee to do so. And get them to agree to universal standards and voting rules for states so it's not 50 different systems so whenever someone doesn't like it they can sue to try to change the rules mid-count like Trump wants to do. When you've done that, then you can complain. While the Republicans are obstructing any kind of security or modernization for our voting systems you have zero credibility to talk about this.

[Walter Sobchak]

We just liberated them and threw in the other 47 states for free

[BCR]

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I mean being a surrogate is one thing, but no one could make me say shit this dumb. Biden probably going to win both, but he’s crushing PA about 50k per 1% reported and looking to win easily

[sonatine]

[Walter Sobchak]

A Twitter post is going around claiming that more votes were cast than number of registered voters in Wisconsin.

This is false, but it does raise some questions.

Wisconsin has 3.68 million registered voters (not 3.1 million like the tweet claims).

However, about 3.3 million votes were cast in Wisconsin, which is an eye-popping 89% pahticipation rate. And that's pretty damn high. Hmmmm...

Wisconsin has same-day registration and address change. Florida has same-day address change.

[Walter Sobchak]

So there's a mob of doofus Trumptards outside where they're counting the votes in AZ, demanding an end to the counting.

With Biden currently in the lead.

And there's a doofus mob of Trumptards demanding that counting stop in MI.

With Biden currently in the lead.

Brilliant.

[nightmarefish]

Biden will win PA by >500k votes.

[sonatine]

Biden will lose PA by >500k votes.

very possible.


also trump would probably be up a few million votes in AZ if he didnt go ham at john mccain.

[Walter Sobchak]

Biden will win PA by >500k votes.

FYP

[sonatine]

like if i can keep it 100 for a second we all thought the 2016 redux was biden pulling ahead from a huge deficit today but the real 2016 redux might be trump eeking out GA, PA, etc tonight/tomorrow.

[big dick]

Biden will lose PA by >500k votes.

Value to be had then

Pennsylvania (PA)

11:00 PM
Winner
Joe Biden -550
Donald Trump +350

[Walter Sobchak]

like if i can keep it 100 for a second we all thought the 2016 redux was biden pulling ahead from a huge deficit today but the real 2016 redux might be trump eeking out GA, PA, etc tonight/tomorrow.

Come on Tine you know that's not happening

[Sanlmar]

A Twitter post is going around claiming that more votes were cast than number of registered voters in Wisconsin.

This is false, but it does raise some questions.

Wisconsin has 3.68 million registered voters (not 3.1 million like the tweet claims).

However, about 3.3 million votes were cast in Wisconsin, which is an eye-popping 89% pahticipation rate. And that's pretty damn high. Hmmmm...

Clemson -31 vs Boston College.

Clemson loses to Boston College on a questionable pass interference call. It never should have been that close.

You are the incumbent vs an elderly stuttering Joe Biden. Literally a drug store indian. It should never be this close.

Clemson would never complain about the PI

[Sloppy Joe]

How does Biden lose PA at this point?

The bulk of what's left (only 70% in) is out of Philly where Biden is polling slightly over 4 to 1.

[badguy23]

Next update Biden will be ahead in PA
Woot Woot Woot!!!!


Wait for everyone to lose their shit when the Erie and Philly Absentee votes r counted.



1 More for the Badguy!!

[sonatine]

behold the future of the GOP

[Walter Sobchak]

How does Biden lose PA at this point?

The bulk of what's left (only 70% in) is out of Philly where Biden is polling slightly over 4 to 1.

He doesn't. Biden will take AZ, NV, PA and GA and no amount of cheating by Trump can overcome it, unless the Supreme Court simply declares him the winner.

[Walter Sobchak]

Next update Biden will be ahead in PA
Woot Woot Woot!!!!


Wait for everyone to lose their shit when the Erie and Philly Absentee votes r counted.

BOOOOOOOM

OH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!