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    Gotta stop with this shit Walt. Anyone that wants to vote can vote. Have you honestly ever talked to one person in your life that was like, damn I really wanted to vote but it was just too hard? This is nonsense.
    Not if mail-in ballots aren't allowed, or aren't counted. Not if they are challenged after the fact. Not if you have to wait in line 6 hours. Not if assholes are standing there to point out individual voters and say "that person is not actually a registered voter" even if they are on the list, and then they pull that person out of line and make them prove it even when they're on the list--unbelievably, that is legal in some states and just anyone can do it.
    You’re blaming this shit on the Republicans? The shitshow that just happen in New York was a dem election, nothing to do with the Republicans. What about the Dem Iowa Caucus shitshow? This election will be a dumpster fire but not because the Republicans, because the state governments aren’t equip/ready/experienced in dealing with the volume they will have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
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    Not if mail-in ballots aren't allowed, or aren't counted. Not if they are challenged after the fact. Not if you have to wait in line 6 hours. Not if assholes are standing there to point out individual voters and say "that person is not actually a registered voter" even if they are on the list, and then they pull that person out of line and make them prove it even when they're on the list--unbelievably, that is legal in some states and just anyone can do it.
    You’re blaming this shit on the Republicans? The shitshow that just happen in New York was a dem election, nothing to do with the Republicans. This election will be a dumpster fire but not because the Republicans, because the state governments aren’t equip/ready/experienced in dealing with the volume they will have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    Not if mail-in ballots aren't allowed, or aren't counted. Not if they are challenged after the fact. Not if you have to wait in line 6 hours. Not if assholes are standing there to point out individual voters and say "that person is not actually a registered voter" even if they are on the list, and then they pull that person out of line and make them prove it even when they're on the list--unbelievably, that is legal in some states and just anyone can do it.
    OMG you have to prove you're registered to vote?

    the system is rigged
    When you're already registered and on the list and standing in line. And just any person can go challenge anyone. Take a guess what criteria they use.

    LOL I'm voting by mail but if I were in line and got up to the counter and someone said hey I want that guy to prove he's registered I'd beat his ass until he didn't have any skin left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    OMG you have to prove you're registered to vote?

    the system is rigged
    When you're already registered and on the list and standing in line. And just any person can go challenge anyone. Take a guess what criteria they use.

    LOL I'm voting by mail but if I were in line and got up to the counter and someone said hey I want that guy to prove he's registered I'd beat his ass until he didn't have any skin left.
    wouldn't you just say check the list and continue to vote?

    I'm not understanding what's so hard here

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    he won in 2016 when the polls were against him — therefore he will win again in 2020 cause the polls are against him — is such unimaginably terrible reasoning
    what don't you get about most Trump voters won't say they're gonna vote for Trump, you know, cause they'll lose their job, cause riots with oppressed entitled browns, get attacked by antifa thugs
    How do you or your dumb sister know what millions of Trumpers are doing?

    Have you polled them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    he won in 2016 when the polls were against him — therefore he will win again in 2020 cause the polls are against him — is such unimaginably terrible reasoning
    what don't you get about most Trump voters won't say they're gonna vote for Trump, you know, cause they'll lose their job, cause riots with oppressed entitled browns, get attacked by antifa thugs

    i agree with you. i totally believe trump voters are under represented in polls, but the splitthis and mulva reasoning of “trump will 100% win cause he did before” is painful to read

    it’s almost as bad as dish’s “I’m a total winner at life so Trump is good” posts.

    just so cringe.......

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    Not if mail-in ballots aren't allowed, or aren't counted. Not if they are challenged after the fact. Not if you have to wait in line 6 hours. Not if assholes are standing there to point out individual voters and say "that person is not actually a registered voter" even if they are on the list, and then they pull that person out of line and make them prove it even when they're on the list--unbelievably, that is legal in some states and just anyone can do it.
    You’re blaming this shit on the Republicans? The shitshow that just happen in New York was a dem election, nothing to do with the Republicans. What about the Dem Iowa Caucus shitshow? This election will be a dumpster fire but not because the Republicans, because the state governments aren’t equip/ready/experienced in dealing with the volume they will have.
    It's true many states are not equipped to handle large increases in mail-in ballots because Republicans have been blocking funding for election security for years.

    And yes I am blaming Republicans because they're the only ones who try to intimidate people not to vote. The Republican National Committee was under federal court order from 1982-2008 not to engage in a whole list of intimidating practices designed to disenfranchise voters. They don't even bother to hide it anymore. The fewer people vote, the better for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    what don't you get about most Trump voters won't say they're gonna vote for Trump, you know, cause they'll lose their job, cause riots with oppressed entitled browns, get attacked by antifa thugs
    How do you or your dumb sister know what millions of Trumpers are doing?

    Have you polled them?
    it's called the silent majority for a reason you obsessed drunk faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    OMG you have to prove you're registered to vote?

    the system is rigged
    When you're already registered and on the list and standing in line. And just any person can go challenge anyone. Take a guess what criteria they use.

    LOL I'm voting by mail but if I were in line and got up to the counter and someone said hey I want that guy to prove he's registered I'd beat his ass until he didn't have any skin left.
    I don’t follow what you’re saying. When it’s your turn they check your id against the list. You’re claiming people other than the people working their ask you to prove it? You’ve seen this happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post

    How do you or your dumb sister know what millions of Trumpers are doing?

    Have you polled them?
    it's called the silent majority for a reason you obsessed drunk faggot
    For a silent majority you sure aren't very silent

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    what don't you get about most Trump voters won't say they're gonna vote for Trump, you know, cause they'll lose their job, cause riots with oppressed entitled browns, get attacked by antifa thugs

    i agree with you. i totally believe trump voters are under represented in polls, but the splitthis and mulva reasoning of “trump will 100% win cause he did before” is painful to read

    it’s almost as bad as dish’s “I’m a total winner at life so Trump is good” posts.

    just so cringe.......
    They're expecting to bink their one-outer again. If only there were a board full of poker players who could explain this to them.

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    it's called the silent majority for a reason you obsessed drunk faggot
    For a silent majority you sure aren't very silent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    You’re blaming this shit on the Republicans? The shitshow that just happen in New York was a dem election, nothing to do with the Republicans. What about the Dem Iowa Caucus shitshow? This election will be a dumpster fire but not because the Republicans, because the state governments aren’t equip/ready/experienced in dealing with the volume they will have.
    It's true many states are not equipped to handle large increases in mail-in ballots because Republicans have been blocking funding for election security for years.

    And yes I am blaming Republicans because they're the only ones who try to intimidate people not to vote. The Republican National Committee was under federal court order from 1982-2008 not to engage in a whole list of intimidating practices designed to disenfranchise voters. They don't even bother to hide it anymore. The fewer people vote, the better for them.
    You should go check them streets. I don't see alot of Republicans trying to intimidate people that don't think the same way they do. That's the libs brah. LMFAO, if you think white Republicans will be trying to intimate people in the November election. This is more crazy talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    When you're already registered and on the list and standing in line. And just any person can go challenge anyone. Take a guess what criteria they use.

    LOL I'm voting by mail but if I were in line and got up to the counter and someone said hey I want that guy to prove he's registered I'd beat his ass until he didn't have any skin left.
    wouldn't you just say check the list and continue to vote?

    I'm not understanding what's so hard here
    Doesn't matter. In some states they will not give you a ballot if someone challenges you.

    How about I come down to where you're going to vote and say hey that guy is suspect I don't think he's properly registered and then they pull you out of line and we'll see how you like it.

    On November 3rd, 1981, Lynette Monroe, who lived in northwest Trenton, headed out to her polling place. It was Election Day in New Jersey. When Monroe, a Democrat, arrived at the polling site, she was stopped outside by a member of a group called the National Ballot Security Task Force. Monroe was asked if she had her voter-registration card with her. She said she did not but that it didn’t matter — she was a registered voter. But the National Ballot Security Task Force members “turned her away, preventing her from casting her ballot,” according to a lawsuit later filed by the Democratic Party, Monroe, and several others.


    When she was turned away, Monroe had no way of knowing that the National Ballot Security Task Force was a massive voter-suppression project funded and carried out by the Republican National Committee and the New Jersey Republican Party. Republicans hired county deputy sheriffs and local policemen with revolvers, two-way radios, and “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands to patrol predominantly black and Hispanic precincts in New Jersey. They posted large warning signs outside polling places saying that it was “a crime to falsify a ballot or to violate election laws.” The signs omitted any mention of the GOP’s role in this egregious intimidation scheme, but the intent was obvious: “to harass and intimidate duly qualified black and Hispanic voters for the purpose and with the effect of discouraging these voters from casting their ballots,” the lawsuit stated.

    The result of the suit was a 1982 consent decree between the Democratic and Republican parties. Even though the RNC refused to admit wrong-doing in New Jersey, the group agreed to stop harassing and intimidating voters of color, including by deputizing off-duty law-enforcement officers and equipping those officers with guns or badges. Over the next three decades, Democrats marshaled enough evidence of ongoing Republican voter suppression to maintain the consent decree until 2018, when a federal judge lifted the order.

    The 2020 presidential election will be the first in nearly 40 years when the RNC isn’t bound by the terms of the 1982 decree. Clark, the Trump campaign lawyer, told the group of Republicans at the private meeting last November that the end of the consent decree was “a huge, huge, huge, huge deal,” freeing the RNC to directly coordinate with campaigns and political committees on so-called Election Day operations. The RNC is sending millions of dollars to state Republican parties to vastly expand these measures, which include recruiting 50,000 poll observers to deploy in key precincts. Josh Helton, a lawyer who has advised the National Republican Senatorial Committee, has described Philadelphia, where black people make up 41 percent of the population, as “probably the epicenter for voter fraud in this country” and a likely target for the GOP’s 2020 poll-watching efforts.


    Depending on the state, poll watchers enlisted by political parties can challenge a voter’s eligibility based on their address, citizenship, and even the date they registered to vote. Michigan law, for instance, says poll watchers need only “good reason” to pull a prospective voter out of line and challenge their eligibility. North Carolina allows anyone registered to vote with “good moral character” (whatever that means) to work as a poll watcher. Even in Oregon and Washington state, where elections are conducted by mail, poll watchers can observe county clerks count mail-in ballots and make challenges when they see fit.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ecree-1028988/

    I'm sure anyone who doesn't like facts will attack the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    It's true many states are not equipped to handle large increases in mail-in ballots because Republicans have been blocking funding for election security for years.

    And yes I am blaming Republicans because they're the only ones who try to intimidate people not to vote. The Republican National Committee was under federal court order from 1982-2008 not to engage in a whole list of intimidating practices designed to disenfranchise voters. They don't even bother to hide it anymore. The fewer people vote, the better for them.
    You should go check them streets. I don't see alot of Republicans trying to intimidate people that don't think the same way they do. That's the libs brah. LMFAO, if you think white Republicans will be trying to intimate people in the November election. This is more crazy talk.
    I challenge you to show me one Republican voter who did not get to vote or whose vote was thrown out because of a challenge by any organized group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    wouldn't you just say check the list and continue to vote?

    I'm not understanding what's so hard here
    Doesn't matter. In some states they will not give you a ballot if someone challenges you.

    How about I come down to where you're going to vote and say hey that guy is suspect I don't think he's properly registered and then they pull you out of line and we'll see how you like it.

    On November 3rd, 1981, Lynette Monroe, who lived in northwest Trenton, headed out to her polling place. It was Election Day in New Jersey. When Monroe, a Democrat, arrived at the polling site, she was stopped outside by a member of a group called the National Ballot Security Task Force. Monroe was asked if she had her voter-registration card with her. She said she did not but that it didn’t matter — she was a registered voter. But the National Ballot Security Task Force members “turned her away, preventing her from casting her ballot,” according to a lawsuit later filed by the Democratic Party, Monroe, and several others.


    When she was turned away, Monroe had no way of knowing that the National Ballot Security Task Force was a massive voter-suppression project funded and carried out by the Republican National Committee and the New Jersey Republican Party. Republicans hired county deputy sheriffs and local policemen with revolvers, two-way radios, and “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands to patrol predominantly black and Hispanic precincts in New Jersey. They posted large warning signs outside polling places saying that it was “a crime to falsify a ballot or to violate election laws.” The signs omitted any mention of the GOP’s role in this egregious intimidation scheme, but the intent was obvious: “to harass and intimidate duly qualified black and Hispanic voters for the purpose and with the effect of discouraging these voters from casting their ballots,” the lawsuit stated.

    The result of the suit was a 1982 consent decree between the Democratic and Republican parties. Even though the RNC refused to admit wrong-doing in New Jersey, the group agreed to stop harassing and intimidating voters of color, including by deputizing off-duty law-enforcement officers and equipping those officers with guns or badges. Over the next three decades, Democrats marshaled enough evidence of ongoing Republican voter suppression to maintain the consent decree until 2018, when a federal judge lifted the order.

    The 2020 presidential election will be the first in nearly 40 years when the RNC isn’t bound by the terms of the 1982 decree. Clark, the Trump campaign lawyer, told the group of Republicans at the private meeting last November that the end of the consent decree was “a huge, huge, huge, huge deal,” freeing the RNC to directly coordinate with campaigns and political committees on so-called Election Day operations. The RNC is sending millions of dollars to state Republican parties to vastly expand these measures, which include recruiting 50,000 poll observers to deploy in key precincts. Josh Helton, a lawyer who has advised the National Republican Senatorial Committee, has described Philadelphia, where black people make up 41 percent of the population, as “probably the epicenter for voter fraud in this country” and a likely target for the GOP’s 2020 poll-watching efforts.


    Depending on the state, poll watchers enlisted by political parties can challenge a voter’s eligibility based on their address, citizenship, and even the date they registered to vote. Michigan law, for instance, says poll watchers need only “good reason” to pull a prospective voter out of line and challenge their eligibility. North Carolina allows anyone registered to vote with “good moral character” (whatever that means) to work as a poll watcher. Even in Oregon and Washington state, where elections are conducted by mail, poll watchers can observe county clerks count mail-in ballots and make challenges when they see fit.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ecree-1028988/

    I'm sure anyone who doesn't like facts will attack the source.
    Sounds very liberal of you, but sorry, I'll be the one intimidating people according to you

    LOL

    also probably voting by mail, not sure what they're doing here yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
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    You should go check them streets. I don't see alot of Republicans trying to intimidate people that don't think the same way they do. That's the libs brah. LMFAO, if you think white Republicans will be trying to intimate people in the November election. This is more crazy talk.
    I challenge you to show me one Republican voter who did not get to vote or whose vote was thrown out because of a challenge by any organized group.
    can you do the same but for libs? cause this sounds like propaganda, TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post

    You should go check them streets. I don't see alot of Republicans trying to intimidate people that don't think the same way they do. That's the libs brah. LMFAO, if you think white Republicans will be trying to intimate people in the November election. This is more crazy talk.
    I challenge you to show me one Republican voter who did not get to vote or whose vote was thrown out because of a challenge by any organized group.
    Are you really looking up shit from 30 years ago that you think is still a concern today?

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    Trump now says he wants to issue an executive order protecting people with preexisting conditions.

    these orders won’t actually do anything and it’s laughably terrible politics as usual, but it’s funny that, trump is now running far more to the left than obama did

    can you imagine the conservative reaction if obama said I’m skipping congress and unilaterally handing out checks for trillions of dollars to people and also ordering that people can’t get evicted? Oh, and I’m going to make sure insurers have to cover sick people at healthy peoples’ rates? again — not going to pass any laws, just royally decreeing it?

    just think about the republican reaction to DACA. i guess they no longer have a problem with this type of governing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Trump now says he wants to issue an executive order protecting people with preexisting conditions.

    these orders won’t actually do anything and it’s laughably terrible politics as usual, but it’s funny that, trump is now running far more to the left than obama did

    can you imagine the conservative reaction if obama said I’m skipping congress and unilaterally handing out checks for trillions of dollars to people and also ordering that people can’t get evicted? Oh, and I’m going to make sure insurers have to cover sick people at healthy peoples’ rates? again — not going to pass any laws, just royally decreeing it?

    just think about the republican reaction to DACA. i guess they no longer have a problem with this type of governing?
    Throwing lots of shit against the wall.

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