Sandusky getting owned in court

[jsearles22]

What the NCAA did today was open a huge can of worms. They are now saying that it doesnt matter if someone specifically violates an NCAA rule, that the NCAA can dole out punishments based upon any lawbreaking.

That last sentence was a huge cluster fuck. Let me clarify. The major thing that everyone around me has been correlating this to was the Kansas Basketball ticket scandal from a few years ago. In that scandal there were MULTIPLE high ranking people in the athletic department that were found to be complicit. There are I believe 5 people in federal prison. The AD at the time had his hand in the pie. What sort of punishment did KU receive from the NCAA for this athletic department cover up? NOTHING. When questioned about it at the time, Mark Emmeret (sp?) said that it was not in the scope of things the NCAA would dole out punishment for because A. it wasnt actually an NCAA violation, B. the legal system had already punished the individuals, and C. the student athletes should not be unfairly punished as they had nothing to do with the scandal.

Now tell me how the Penn State situation is different than that? The only difference is the media hype involved. Penn State essentially recieved a death penalty and KU received nothing!

[Sloppy Joe]

What the NCAA did today was open a huge can of worms. They are now saying that it doesnt matter if someone specifically violates an NCAA rule, that the NCAA can dole out punishments based upon any lawbreaking.

That last sentence was a huge cluster fuck. Let me clarify. The major thing that everyone around me has been correlating this to was the Kansas Basketball ticket scandal from a few years ago. In that scandal there were MULTIPLE high ranking people in the athletic department that were found to be complicit. There are I believe 5 people in federal prison. The AD at the time had his hand in the pie. What sort of punishment did KU receive from the NCAA for this athletic department cover up? NOTHING. When questioned about it at the time, Mark Emmeret (sp?) said that it was not in the scope of things the NCAA would dole out punishment for because A. it wasnt actually an NCAA violation, B. the legal system had already punished the individuals, and C. the student athletes should not be unfairly punished as they had nothing to do with the scandal.

Now tell me how the Penn State situation is different than that? The only difference is the media hype involved. Penn State essentially recieved a death penalty and KU received nothing!

Children were molested, bro. Lots of them.

[jsearles22]

What the NCAA did today was open a huge can of worms. They are now saying that it doesnt matter if someone specifically violates an NCAA rule, that the NCAA can dole out punishments based upon any lawbreaking.

That last sentence was a huge cluster fuck. Let me clarify. The major thing that everyone around me has been correlating this to was the Kansas Basketball ticket scandal from a few years ago. In that scandal there were MULTIPLE high ranking people in the athletic department that were found to be complicit. There are I believe 5 people in federal prison. The AD at the time had his hand in the pie. What sort of punishment did KU receive from the NCAA for this athletic department cover up? NOTHING. When questioned about it at the time, Mark Emmeret (sp?) said that it was not in the scope of things the NCAA would dole out punishment for because A. it wasnt actually an NCAA violation, B. the legal system had already punished the individuals, and C. the student athletes should not be unfairly punished as they had nothing to do with the scandal.

Now tell me how the Penn State situation is different than that? The only difference is the media hype involved. Penn State essentially recieved a death penalty and KU received nothing!

Children were molested, bro. Lots of them.

So now the NCAA is deciding which crimes are worse than others? 5 people are in federal penitentary for violating numerous federal crimes but that University got off scot free? If you cant see the hypocricy there then im not sure what else to say. Im in no way saying that child molestation isnt a horrific crime. Thats not what we are talking about here. What Im discussing is the NCAA and their apparent inconsistency when it comes to doling out punishment. All you care to do is carry on this media sensationalism.

12 people got killed in a theatre in Colorado and its on the front page of every website and print newspaper out there. 13 people died in one truck crash in Texas yet that wont get 1/100th of the worldwide coverage. Its all media sensationalism.

[tommyt]

Children were molested, bro. Lots of them.

So now the NCAA is deciding which crimes are worse than others? 5 people are in federal penitentary for violating numerous federal crimes but that University got off scot free? If you cant see the hypocricy there then im not sure what else to say. Im in no way saying that child molestation isnt a horrific crime. Thats not what we are talking about here. What Im discussing is the NCAA and their apparent inconsistency when it comes to doling out punishment. All you care to do is carry on this media sensationalism.

12 people got killed in a theatre in Colorado and its on the front page of every website and print newspaper out there. 13 people died in one truck crash in Texas yet that wont get 1/100th of the worldwide coverage. Its all media sensationalism.

I think the mass shooting happens a little less frequently than a car wreck.

[jsearles22]

So now the NCAA is deciding which crimes are worse than others? 5 people are in federal penitentary for violating numerous federal crimes but that University got off scot free? If you cant see the hypocricy there then im not sure what else to say. Im in no way saying that child molestation isnt a horrific crime. Thats not what we are talking about here. What Im discussing is the NCAA and their apparent inconsistency when it comes to doling out punishment. All you care to do is carry on this media sensationalism.

12 people got killed in a theatre in Colorado and its on the front page of every website and print newspaper out there. 13 people died in one truck crash in Texas yet that wont get 1/100th of the worldwide coverage. Its all media sensationalism.

I think the mass shooting happens a little less frequently than a car wreck.

Obviously 13 people die in single car accidents all the time.....................

[Sloppy Joe]

Children were molested, bro. Lots of them.

So now the NCAA is deciding which crimes are worse than others? 5 people are in federal penitentary for violating numerous federal crimes but that University got off scot free? If you cant see the hypocricy there then im not sure what else to say. Im in no way saying that child molestation isnt a horrific crime. Thats not what we are talking about here. What Im discussing is the NCAA and their apparent inconsistency when it comes to doling out punishment. All you care to do is carry on this media sensationalism.

12 people got killed in a theatre in Colorado and its on the front page of every website and print newspaper out there. 13 people died in one truck crash in Texas yet that wont get 1/100th of the worldwide coverage. Its all media sensationalism.

Nobody seems to give a fuck though except you because the powers that were at Penn State chose to cover up child abuse. It's not really fair to the current players but any of them with a brain and a desire to play at a high level should have already transferred, and now can with no penalties. Who fucking cares if their program is ruined, I commend the NCAA for the punishment they levied, screw procedure in this case.

You think the winningest coach in CFB history willfully ignoring child molestation is 'media sensationalism', bro? Or that a truck crash is more newsworthy than some guy lighting up a movie theater? Come on, bro, even you aren't that stupid. Keep on truckin' bro.

[Hockey Guy]

What the NCAA did today was open a huge can of worms. They are now saying that it doesnt matter if someone specifically violates an NCAA rule, that the NCAA can dole out punishments based upon any lawbreaking.

That last sentence was a huge cluster fuck. Let me clarify. The major thing that everyone around me has been correlating this to was the Kansas Basketball ticket scandal from a few years ago. In that scandal there were MULTIPLE high ranking people in the athletic department that were found to be complicit. There are I believe 5 people in federal prison. The AD at the time had his hand in the pie. What sort of punishment did KU receive from the NCAA for this athletic department cover up? NOTHING. When questioned about it at the time, Mark Emmeret (sp?) said that it was not in the scope of things the NCAA would dole out punishment for because A. it wasnt actually an NCAA violation, B. the legal system had already punished the individuals, and C. the student athletes should not be unfairly punished as they had nothing to do with the scandal.

Now tell me how the Penn State situation is different than that? The only difference is the media hype involved. Penn State essentially recieved a death penalty and KU received nothing!

Only a fool would compare a ticketing scandal involving nothing more than money to multiple little boys getting repeatedly ass-fucked while the people running an institution turned a blind eye & LET it happen. They could have stopped this as early as 1998 & decided their reputation was more important than even one childs life let alone untold numbers.
You'd actually have a point if everyone didn't feel that these people responsible didn't belong in jail for this coverup but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the general public that feels this way. As far as I'm concerned Joe Paterno can rot in fucking HELL & these other administrators that covered this up belong in fucking jail for a long time. You have to remember this was not a cover-up by the athletic dept, this was a cover-up by the highest brass of the university.

[shortbuspoker]

So now the NCAA is deciding which crimes are worse than others? 5 people are in federal penitentary for violating numerous federal crimes but that University got off scot free? If you cant see the hypocricy there then im not sure what else to say. Im in no way saying that child molestation isnt a horrific crime. Thats not what we are talking about here. What Im discussing is the NCAA and their apparent inconsistency when it comes to doling out punishment. All you care to do is carry on this media sensationalism.

12 people got killed in a theatre in Colorado and its on the front page of every website and print newspaper out there. 13 people died in one truck crash in Texas yet that wont get 1/100th of the worldwide coverage. Its all media sensationalism.

I think the mass shooting happens a little less frequently than a car wreck.

In all fairness to the wreck, they were Mexicans and nobody cares about them

[LLL]

Serial child molester Jerry Sandusky, a former Pennsylvania State University football coach, was sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison on Tuesday for abusing young, at-risk boys for more than a decade.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8960IO20121009

[HEX]

Bye bye dickhead...

[LLL]

Bye bye dickhead...

Stolen from Chaps at Boris. Needs to be a :thing here.

[Dan Druff]

BUMP

Two things, one old, one new.

The old thing (which was strangely underreported in the media):

On November 1, Graham Spanier was finally indicted. I wonder what took so long, given that he was guilty of very similar crimes to Curley and Schultz, who were charged immediately.

Anyway, here is the document regarding the charges against him:

 

View on scribd here: https://www.scribd.com/doc/111792451/  

The new thing is that Sandusky is attempting to appeal! I am guessing that this will be rejected, though:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/10/us/pen...eal/index.html

[BCR]

BUMP

Two things, one old, one new.

The old thing (which was strangely underreported in the media):

On November 1, Graham Spanier was finally indicted. I wonder what took so long, given that he was guilty of very similar crimes to Curley and Schultz, who were charged immediately.

Anyway, here is the document regarding the charges against him:

 

View on scribd here: https://www.scribd.com/doc/111792451/  

The new thing is that Sandusky is attempting to appeal! I am guessing that this will be rejected, though:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/10/us/pen...eal/index.html

In Commonwealth states, the Magisterial courts are akin to simply arraignment courts for most issues. They will dispose of minor crimes and traffic offenses which makes them different slightly, but anything serious is kicked up to Common Pleas courts.

That scribd document comes from the PA AOPC site which I'm very familiar with for various reasons. It's publicly accessible if you want the dirt on any PA resident if you know what to look for. Searching by docket sheets(both magisterial and common pleas)/participant name/ and county will yield any individuals criminal history in totality.


This is how the Spanier case has further progressed past that point. Mostly just legal maneuvering because there was a conflict of interest with Penn State's university house counsel first appearing for Curley, Schultz, and Spanier. That's pretty egregious, and they could walk on that alone potentially. At first the university sent house counsel for those involved because they thought it was a state of PA vs. Penn State issue, and as the case progressed and the university looked to distance themselves from the bad actors, it has created legal difficulties. Spanier had a motion just a few days ago. The status of the case is listed as closed, but it's pretty clear it isn't. Possibly a change of venue to Centre County, I didn't check.

http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketS...D-0001387-2012

[Dan Druff]

Court hearings are going on this month against Spanier, Schultz, and Curley, though none are likely to stand trial until early 2014.

Here is a description of the case against Spanier: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...panier_mo.html

Here is a disturbing account of the fact that Spanier is still drawing a $600k per year salary (LOL) from Penn State, as well as routinely goes out in public in State College, PA: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...thering_c.html

Here is an August 1 article about the hearings: http://www.centredaily.com/2013/08/0...z-hearing.html

From what I am hearing, the Penn State community as a whole still deeply admires Joe Paterno, and they think that the cases against Spanier, Curley, and Schultz are mostly witch hunts.

Basically the whole community is on the defensive about the Sandusky matter, as they feel the community and school were unfairly maligned as caring about football above everything else.

So now they're basically throwing all logic out the window and standing behind everyone but Sandusky himself.

I realize that it's tough to fire a tenured professor (which Spanier is), but how could he STILL be drawing a $600k salary at this point? Sounds like another fail on the part of the school. They've definitely had enough time to complete the procedure of firing him, and at the very least, they have enough evidence to do that, even if he never gets convicted of any criminal charges.

[Dan Druff]

BUMP AGAIN

Curley and Schultz have pled guilty to misdemeanor child endangerment.

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/03..._in_sandu.html

They may be testifying against Graham Spanier next week, which would be a major turn of events, as the three men had stood together until now.

I really hope that arrogant prick Spanier gets some serious prison time.

[WillieMcFML]

it makes me sick sandusky's wife hasn't spent a day in jail

[lewfather]

it makes me sick sandusky's wife hasn't spent a day in jail

a lot of this, also were looking at you pedotine.

sorry i couldnt resist, one love, i was shaqtin.

[Pooh]

I never followed this case very closely however there was something I always wanted to know. When McCreary heard the "slapping" in the shower did Sandusky cum in the boy's ass or his face? I think it's a reasonable question. Either way I'm sure it was all a big misunderstanding.

[lewfather]

lol wowwww

[FPS_Russia]

Don't tell me Pooh's new house is going to have a kids roller coaster, petting zoo and frequent sleepovers. haha