This is such a case of mental gymnastics in order to avoid directly confronting the sad truth of the problem.Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
The color of most of the victims is the same as it always is. Same as the color of most of the victims of a hurricane or a pandemic also.
Millions of people believe that systemic racism is the reason that black people are more likely to live in poverty, less likely to have access to healthcare or receive a good education which makes them less likely to provide a stable family environment to raise their children which leads to more crime.
They think this movement will change some of that and do a ton of long term good.
I know you don't agree with them, but if they're right, the temporary spike in crime would be well worth it.
Even if "systemic racism" really did exist as you say, there's no simple fix or reform which can change it overnight. Eliminating racism occurs via a change in attitude, as well as a change in discriminatory law.
Encouraging society to be colorblind and for parents to teach their children that race doesn't matter is the way to reduce or eliminate racism long term. Note that I said RACE DOESN'T MATTER, not that you should be teaching your kids to feel guilty for their white privilege. You should teach them to judge everyone based upon their actions, and not their skin color.
Legally or systemically, racism can only be eliminated by reversing overt racist laws (this was already done in the 1960s), and by passing laws to punish overt discrimination (such as clear cases of housing or employment discrimination).
Anything beyond that gets extremely nebulous, because it focuses upon racial outcomes and statistics to draw conclusions of victimization which might be (and often are) false.
I'll give you a simple example. Jews are disproportionately underrepresented in professional athletics in the US. Why is that? Is there systemic anti-Semitism in the athletic community which purposely excludes Jews from professional sports? Or is it possible that Jewish families might not lead their athletic children toward sports careers? Or is it possible that there are just fewer Jewish people with elite athletic skills? Or is it possible it's both factors and a few others combined?
Regardless, I think we can all agree that there's no widespread conspiracy to keep Jews out of sports, despite our lack of numbers there.
This sort of discussion can be applied to everything where you look at statistics. People are different. Some is genetic. Some is upbringing. Some is from the community where we grow up. Some is a product of seemingly random events.
Crime is much higher in black communities in the US. You can't simply blame that on poverty. There are poor white communities with a fraction of the violent crime rate.
There could be several reasons for this. A big one is the lack of fatherless homes, which can't be blamed on any kind of racism. I know from going to school with mostly white kids and Asians that the kids without a male figure in the home tended to be the troublemakers, so I can only imagine a community where most of them are like that. Some of it is probably a general glorification of violence and gang culture in these communities. Some of it is probably from lousy schools (which is more due to incompetence than lack of funding). Some of it is due to a lack of proactive policing, where the bad apples are able to more easily terrorize the community and influence the on-the-fence young people.
It's a very complex matter.
To blame this on "systemic racism" is absurd. To believe that lighter policing, resulting in even more murders in these communities, is somehow going to do these people a favor, is also absurd.
I'll let you in on a little secret: Black people don't enjoy living in shitholes. The more ambitious ones have the goal of getting out of the ghetto and into a more peaceful segment of society.
In fact, you should take a look at the interesting history of the California cities of Lancaster and Palmdale. Once small towns, these exploded in size in the 1980s and 1990s due to people moving out there to get away from the violent crime and gangs in Los Angeles. People weren't moving to the desert because they were fleeing systemic racism. They were fleeing gang violence and neighborhoods decimated by crime. Unfortunately, after enough families fleed from the inner city to Lancaster and Palmdale, there were enough bad apples again to form their own gangs, and suddenly these formerly safe desert towns had their own crime problem.
"The temporary spike in crime would be well worth it" is such an ignorant white leftist thing to say. Of course you can say that. You don't need to live among the neighborhoods with the "temporary spike in crime", where you won't be able to call the police because they've had drastic budget cuts in favor of lol social work.
BTW, they tried the social work replacing law enforcement solution in the 1960s and beyond. It was a horrendous failure, with crime rates continuing to rise, before peaking in 1992 (at which point stronger policing and mandatory minimum sentencing started to occur) . Why will it work now? Because woke college kids say so?
Reply With Quote
