Splitthis doesn’t have a head of any body parts. Don’t you know that 90% of the posts here are Sonatine dupes? Until she actually posts a pic, assume she is as well.Originally Posted by blake
honest question tine, how horrified are you at seeing what is actually in splitthis' head?
Wait Splithis is a Sonatine dupe? I have not seen anything this shocking since 2008 when Tyde called out cmoney for being the real Michael Bubble.Splitthis doesn’t have a head of any body parts. Don’t you know that 90% of the posts here are Sonatine dupes? Until she actually posts a pic, assume she is as well.
With states opening back up there will be a 3-4 week lag before deaths start going back up. If deaths are still going down in mid June then you would have a good argument. The current death rate on the downtrend is an argument that the lockdown is working. Also, isn’t it well documented that the death numbers coming out of the weekend have always been low because of reporting delays?
Is anyone stupid enough to believe that the economy is not Trump's fault?
Is anyone stupid enough to believe that these coronavirus deaths are not Trump's fault?
Musk should be treated like anyone else who breaks the law.
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If Obama had done this he would be called a stubborn uppity n-word.
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None of those things is contagious. Unfathomable that a "nurse" doesn't realize this.
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If he didn't want that to happen he shouldn't have run for president, and now that he is president if he wants it to happen less he should try to live in reality rather than fascist fantasy land.
He said yesterday we have won the battle over coronavirus. Yet also just yesterday the White House put in place an order for everyone but Trump to wear a mask. This is like W saying "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq when in reality the quagmire was just beginning.
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yeah poor trump aka the guy who less than 24 hours after being sworn in, stood at a podium and called a room full of professional journalists 'fake news'.
who could imagine there would be consequences.
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Nobody questioned anything Obama ever did, especially the liberal MSMIf Obama had done this he would be called a stubborn uppity n-word.
Nobody questioned anything Obama ever did, especially the liberal MSM
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Trump hosts these needless press conferences to fuel his malignant narcissism, theres no other reason.
It's the media's fault for attending and asking him questions? Their fault that he has lied about everything throughout?
It's their fault that your party enabled this incompetent lunatic who is largely responsible for how bad things have gotten?
I thought you had shifted to being a silent member of Team Retard after we didn't get your spin on his disinfectant/sunlight remarks.
Guess not.
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Article is a bit stale but it's for all the wackos in this thread thinking the number of deaths due to COVID are being over counted.
https://www.businessinsider.com/yale...9-count-2020-4
The US experienced 15,400 'excess deaths' from March to April 4 compared with last year, suggesting coronavirus death toll is higher than known
At least 54,000 people in the US have died as a direct result of the coronavirus, but a new study suggests that the true number of deaths caused by the disease is far greater than the official statistics suggest.
In an analysis conducted for The Washington Post, a research team led by the Yale School of Public Health found that the US experienced 15,400 "excess deaths" from March through April 4 compared to the year before.
"Excess deaths" is the number of extra deaths in a given period compared to a historical average, from any cause.
This, the Post noted, came at a time when traffic fatalities were in steep decline due to stay-at-home orders.
Over the same period, there were also 8,128 confirmed deaths from COVID-19.
As The Post reported, this does not mean all 15,000-plus deaths are directly attributable to the virus — an assertion that would be impossible to verify in the absence of a more robust testing regime.
The number, reliant on figures released April 24 by the National Center for Health Statistics, is instead an estimate based on "how many people probably would have died absent the pandemic," subtracted from the number of people who actually did.
The Post's analysis of the US came shortly after the Financial Times conducted a similar exercise with figures from health authorities all over the world. They reached a similar conclusion — that deaths linked to the pandemic have been significantly under-counted in nations from Italy to Ecuador.
In some US states, by the excess deaths measure, total deaths are actually lower than before. In Louisiana, for example, 408 people died of COVID-19 by April 4, making it one of the worst-hit areas of the country. Still, it had "slightly fewer deaths overall than normal," The Post reported.
But that could be due to a lag in reporting numbers. New Orleans Health Director Jennifer Avegno, citing a spike in paramedics reporting deaths and cardiac arrest — up 24% from the year before — said the COVID-19 death toll is likely 15% higher than officially acknowledged, according to emails obtained by Columbia University's Brown Institute for Media Innovation.
She told The Post that undercounting deaths could lead officials to enact bad public policy. "They may think the number of cases is more limited," Avegno said, "but they are not testing widely enough to know."
Little over 1,500 deaths today, most in states you guessed it, states run by left wing Governors with nursing home dereliction.
The Trump mitigation strategy has defeated the virus for most states. CNN is going to get really pissed off come the summer when there are less daily Covid-19 deaths than AIDS. Which is like 5 a month.
What a totally overblown pile of shit. At least Trump will be reelected in all this. And that Fauci guy is a fucking douche.
Last week was the worst week for rural America by a decent margin
History is going to remember opening back up as one of the moronic moves of all time. Weekend was down. Even Tuesday will likely be under 2k barring some last few hour reporting of deaths.
This will legit be studied in a classroom some day. They’ll look at the historical data and wonder wtf did they open up when another month or six weeks would have bought them real significant time? They had just started to get results.
Reminds me of the scene from Tiranic when they wonder wtf was wrong with the captain moving so quickly when an iceberg was likely. Same reason as opening the country now. Pressure from business and investors. They wanted headlines about the speed of the voyage. They got headlines. The rest of the world will have this under control and barring flights from us in a month.
Trump is touting vaccines in the fall when he should be pushing it will take many years to develop vaccines if he wants to open. That’s the only argument for opening now.
If they actually develop a vaccine that’s even somewhat effective in the fall, the decision was more idiotic.
If you were actually cheering for the virus to alter the election and wanted Trump defeated, opening is your best case scenario. Six more weeks he likely buys himself six months to get back to worst numbers and that carries him through the election. I’d be cheering his decision if I hated him enough to wish this get worse and him lose.
Opening now brings him back in a month and grows much higher. Fucking twilight zone how that’s not obvious. He better be full of shit and hope vaccines are years away. Let’s get it over with is the only argument for opening.
Half the deaths are nursing homes. They were on death's door anyway. The remaining 50%, like 75% were ticking time bombs who were/are morbidly obese or 500 diabetic scores. That leaves a few here and there and that is bad luck. WTF you want to do, I get you despise Trump and want him to lose no matter what, but your team is going down the wrong path on this one. Obsessing about deaths is not going to play well, especially since Joe Biden looks like something from Weekend at Bernie's.Last week was the worst week for rural America by a decent margin
History is going to remember opening back up as one of the moronic moves of all time. Weekend was down. Even Tuesday will likely be under 2k barring some last few hour reporting of deaths.
This will legit be studied in a classroom some day. They’ll look at the historical data and wonder wtf did they open up when another month or six weeks would have bought them real significant time? They had just started to get results.
Reminds me of the scene from Tiranic when they wonder wtf was wrong with the captain moving so quickly when an iceberg was likely. Same reason as opening the country now. Pressure from business and investors. They wanted headlines about the speed of the voyage. They got headlines. The rest of the world will have this under control and barring flights from us in a month.
Trump is touting vaccines in the fall when he should be pushing it will take many years to develop vaccines if he wants to open. That’s the only argument for opening now.
If they actually develop a vaccine that’s even somewhat effective in the fall, the decision was more idiotic.
If you were actually cheering for the virus to alter the election and wanted Trump defeated, opening is your best case scenario. Six more weeks he likely buys himself six months to get back to worst numbers and that carries him through the election. I’d be cheering his decision if I hated him enough to wish this get worse and him lose.
Opening now brings him back in a month and grows much higher. Fucking twilight zone how that’s not obvious. He better be full of shit and hope vaccines are years away. Let’s get it over with is the only argument for opening.
It’s a vote for Trump or against Trump. Biden is a corpse as you say. With deaths at 200 day in a month, everyone is ready to open. We likely had that in Feb that they weren’t counting.
No need to argue. We will revisit in a month. If it’s better and economy better, good choice. If it’s 4K a day and economy sinking, that will be obvious also.
It's a binary choice, plain and simple. People think Trump is running against 1,000 candidates. No, he is running against Biden who really is terrible. Now Trump could get sick, and Biden could as well. Both are in their 70s. I am just saying less than 1% of the country is dying from this and most who are dying are 70+. I get it, if you are 83 years old you are going to try and hold on as long as you can. But you cannot have a hostage scenario for everyone else. Your comment of just getting it over with is probably correct, I want to get back on a cruise next year as I have a $1,400 credit.
A douche and a pile of shit. Look in the mirror.
Since Trump is ignoring the experts, he owns this shit show. For people who live in reality, it's not pretty.
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as usual, tgull raises an excellent point; if the heartland starts to lose family/friends who arent 70+ years old, whatever members of his inner circle trump cant fit onto airforce 1 on his way out of the country will be sold into white slavery.
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