So coronavirus is definitely going to kill a few of us.

[duped_samaritan]

For those hoping for a miracle vaccine in 2020, don't.

Vaccines are different than treatments in that they are being injected into healthy people, thus the level of certainty that it does no harm is much much higher.

All medications are known to have side effects and risks. When you take meds for anything, you're aware that there is a chance that the medication itself might do some unintended harm to you, but you take that chance because you want to get better. This is even true for medications for mild, non-threatening maladies. However, a vaccine is different. You're giving this to people who AREN'T sick, and are promising it will keep a certain malady away from them. That's far different, and any side effect other than something very temporary is considered unacceptable.

Also, given that this is going to be injected into the whole world, if this were to have harmful side effects, it would be a disaster of epic proportions. If there's a bad medication, it affects an exponentially smaller percentage of the population than a bad vaccine.

So the vaccine needs to be close to perfect as far as side effects go, even one as important as this. This requires a lot of development and testing time.

We will absolutely not see a vaccine in 2020.

Book it.

At this rate your kid will only get 2 maybe 3 more flu shots (at least till he's an adult and realizes his Father joined a cult) because they will be the government trying to control his brain.

[Dan Druff]

For those hoping for a miracle vaccine in 2020, don't.

Vaccines are different than treatments in that they are being injected into healthy people, thus the level of certainty that it does no harm is much much higher.

All medications are known to have side effects and risks. When you take meds for anything, you're aware that there is a chance that the medication itself might do some unintended harm to you, but you take that chance because you want to get better. This is even true for medications for mild, non-threatening maladies. However, a vaccine is different. You're giving this to people who AREN'T sick, and are promising it will keep a certain malady away from them. That's far different, and any side effect other than something very temporary is considered unacceptable.

Also, given that this is going to be injected into the whole world, if this were to have harmful side effects, it would be a disaster of epic proportions. If there's a bad medication, it affects an exponentially smaller percentage of the population than a bad vaccine.

So the vaccine needs to be close to perfect as far as side effects go, even one as important as this. This requires a lot of development and testing time.

We will absolutely not see a vaccine in 2020.

Book it.

At this rate your kid will only get 2 maybe 3 more flu shots (at least till he's an adult and realizes his Father joined a cult) because they will be the government trying to control his brain.

Did you read this and wrongly believe I was an anti-vaxxer?

I was explaining why they can't release a vaccine in 2020.

[duped_samaritan]

At this rate your kid will only get 2 maybe 3 more flu shots (at least till he's an adult and realizes his Father joined a cult) because they will be the government trying to control his brain.

Did you read this and wrongly believe I was an anti-vaxxer?

I was explaining why they can't release a vaccine in 2020.

No.

I understand you are still very rational when it comes to medical stuff. It's impressive really considering all the nonsense you've been spewing.

[Hockey Guy]

in before an expert opinion on this based on the computer programming job he had in 1987.

Druff does not give opinions, he states facts.

[TheXFactor]

[Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe]

[ErickAA]

--In reference to the high death total today. There is always a high total on Tuesday, following a weekend slump. So wouldn't read too much into it.

--In reference to home schooling. I am at the point I pretty much am just ignoring all the stuff the teachers send home and we don't even bother with most of the Zoom class meetings. My son has a concentration limit of about 90 minutes-2 hours a day and that is it and I don't want to waste it on low productivity stuff. Instead I am spending that time drilling math and reading comprehension into him, mostly with materials I ordered myself. He is just going to have to do without all the other shit, which is mostly just time wasting as far as I can tell.

Reading comprehension is hard to measure, but math knowledge is easier, and I guarantee he is getting more out of 45 minutes a day with me than he was getting at school.

The socializing part sucks though and I definitely think it is in his (and my) best interests to go back to school ASAP, although I am pessimistic it will be this August. I could see them keeping schools shut down longer.

[blake]

The genius kids you see who are homeschooled are outliers. They are the best of the best homeschooled kids, and are ones who enjoy constantly learning.

actually, they're all mormons

[duped_samaritan]

I think that might be fake.

http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/

[Hockey Guy]

The Donald will be fine. He's had lots of these types of tweets & he just "denies" or says "fake news" & just carries on.

As an outsider, it's kinda baffling that nothing ever sticks to him & it may be fake.

[duped_samaritan]

Here's a real (re)tweet:

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/525927728395354112

[duped_samaritan]

This new twitter feature is sweet.

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/473299655435223040

[sonatine]

seriously tho the world record for a vaccine is 4 years and to the best of my knowledge there has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus so theres that.

on the other hand, AI is factoring heavily into this effort and if you look at how far its pushed rapid gene mapping, i mean, there is good cause for optimism there.

[thesidedish]

Here's a real (re)tweet:

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/525927728395354112

This new twitter feature is sweet.

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/473299655435223040

lmfao trump really is a natural troll, guy was in his 60's just interacting with retarded screen names because who gives a fk

[Daly]

seriously tho the world record for a vaccine is 4 years and to the best of my knowledge there has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus so theres that.

on the other hand, AI is factoring heavily into this effort and if you look at how far its pushed rapid gene mapping, i mean, there is good cause for optimism there.

You can say a lot of things about the USA but when we put our mind to Something shit gets done.

Not saying it will be tomorrow but I’d take the under 4 years easy.

[sonatine]

honestly? thats not a great bet... like 'in our lifetimes' should be about -125.

we are probably going to need an absolute paradigm shattering vaccine, something just totally unimaginable.

because this thing is a chimerae.

[thesidedish]

honestly? thats not a great bet... like 'in our lifetimes' should be about -125.

we are probably going to need an absolute paradigm shattering vaccine, something just totally unimaginable.

because this thing is a chimerae.

U AINT TYDE BRO SORRY NO 2000 PAGES

[sonatine]

honestly? thats not a great bet... like 'in our lifetimes' should be about -125.

we are probably going to need an absolute paradigm shattering vaccine, something just totally unimaginable.

because this thing is a chimerae.

U AINT TYDE BRO SORRY NO 2000 PAGES

oh we going for 2000 pages?

ok fine, i draft mrobot.

[Sanlmar]

seriously tho the world record for a vaccine is 4 years and to the best of my knowledge there has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus so theres that.

on the other hand, AI is factoring heavily into this effort and if you look at how far its pushed rapid gene mapping, i mean, there is good cause for optimism there.

I’ve never had a flu shot. Not a political decision. Not an anti vaxxer. I just don’t seem to ever get the flu or my symptoms are pretty mild.

I also understood the flu morphs quickly so you gotta get on the flu shot treadmill to keep up.

I haven’t dug too deep but atm I have the impression what we have on the East Coast is a different animal than West Coast. Once we release the hounds this month we will probably see if that’s true soon enough anecdotally.

I’ll take an article from Verm or anyone else on COVID vaccination theory

[sonatine]

I’ll take an article from Verm or anyone else on COVID vaccination theory

honestly i would too.