Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
It's odd how they stole the FPP money yet everyone talks about what a saint the guy is.

The FPP thievery vis a vis Isai the Saint is an incongruity which cannot be ignored.

Almost impossible he is the nice loyal guy everyone claims he is. No way I am believing it.
I don't understand it either, but honestly I think he wasn't involved with the minutiae like the details of the FPP cashout. He probably told his underllings to pay out the FPPs, they came to him with a plan, he said, "Sounds good, submit it to the government", and that was that.

Most poker players were too dim and/or delusional to even realize they got cheated, even when I tried to explain it to them. I went round and round with idiots about this on 2+2. Even some normally sharp people were just in a haze on this one, refusing to see it for what it really was.

To this day, almost nobody remembers that Stars even did anything wrong at all regarding the FPPs.

Anyway I'm preparing radio right now, so I will be discussing this tonight as our top story.
What incentive did some random employee have for fleecing all the US Players?

Any way to figure out how much money they stole?

You are never going to convince me some random, thieving FPP cash-out policy which benefited the owner 10s of millions of dollars (or more??) was initiated by anyone other than an owner.

It was a wild time, he was probably scrounging around trying to save every dollar he could. How he avoided extradition is yet another mystery.

There was a lot of fuckery in the whole thing imo. Why didn't all of Pokerstar's bank accounts all over the world get seized like Full Tilt's did, crippling their ability to pay?

I get that Full Tilt was basically doing fractional reserve banking, but they didn't invent it - keeping only 10% of the customer's funds on deposit was standard operating procedure someone who would know told me.

The whole thing is super odd, all the way down the Bitar's "ailment" that saw a high profile defendant escape prosecution.