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    Astros Sign Stealing

    BREAKING: Per sources, MLB’s penalties for #Astros include:

    *One-year suspensions for GM Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch.

    *Losses of 1st and 2nd round draft picks in both 2020 and ‘21.

    *A fine of $5M.

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    What are people's thoughts?

    I think they got off light. Wouldn't you trade $5 mill , 4 draft picks and 1 year suspensions for a WS Title?

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    reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly light...

    there was chirping that the punishment was going to be game changing...like luhnow would be outta baseball type shit...

    yeah these guys are gonna learn a lesson cause if they do it again they're done...but fuck it, they got jewelry for their troubles...draft picks will probably sting a little, but still...

    semi related: espn scroll mentioned something about cora getting a punishment for the sauwks shit...

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    In college all we would do in the bullpen is lie about girls and try to steal signs or pick up tipped pitches.

    Coach told us never to call out your team mates name when he was at bat. You could use a nickname but never the kids last name.

    So if I thought I knew the signs or when the pitcher was throwing a fastball I’d tell my pitching coach. He’d check it out. Usually he knew who was good at it and just trust them. Some kids were real good at stealing signs.

    The coach would yell out the players last name when a fast ball was comin and boom.

    What do you think idle players are doing?

    The technology assist wasn’t cool but apply some context.

    The games the game.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    In college all we would do in the bullpen is lie about girls and try to steal signs or pick up tipped pitches.

    Coach told us never to call out your team mates name when he was at bat. You could use a nickname but never the kids last name.

    So if I thought I knew the signs or when the pitcher was throwing a fastball I’d tell my pitching coach. He’d check it out. Usually he knew who was good at it and just trust them. Some kids were real good at stealing signs.

    The coach would yell out the players last name when a fast ball was comin and boom.

    What do you think idle players are doing?

    The technology assist wasn’t cool but apply some context.

    The games the game.
    made brothers kno...have a good buddy whose dad is involved in baseball at a pretty high level...both great guys...best thing I ever heard from his dad, "if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'"...

    always stuck with me...

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    The story went that Andrew Friedman was told sign stealing had been brought to new levels before the series and he did nothing. I may have posted something as it came out.

    Dodgers will Dodger. No tears

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    As an addendum, usually in college the catcher gets the next pitch (sign) from a coach in the dugout. You don’t get to think in college.

    So you could just focus on the opposing dugout.

    Inside baseball.

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    It is the opposing team’s responsibility to ensure their signs are adequately encrypted, but using technology is clearly cheating.

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    Call me crazy, but this doesn’t feel like it’s about sign stealing. It seems the punishment is more about the brazen yet elementary way that they relayed the signs back to the hitters.

     
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      Sanlmar: Agreed. Pure PR move by MLB
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    hinch and luhnow shitcanned by astros...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    The technology assist wasn’t cool but apply some context.
    The entirety of this whole saga is about the technology assist. None of the rest of it is important to mlb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    In college all we would do in the bullpen is lie about girls and try to steal signs or pick up tipped pitches.

    Coach told us never to call out your team mates name when he was at bat. You could use a nickname but never the kids last name.

    So if I thought I knew the signs or when the pitcher was throwing a fastball I’d tell my pitching coach. He’d check it out. Usually he knew who was good at it and just trust them. Some kids were real good at stealing signs.

    The coach would yell out the players last name when a fast ball was comin and boom.

    What do you think idle players are doing?

    The technology assist wasn’t cool but apply some context.

    The games the game.
    If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.

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    Obviously those two were getting shit-canned for the owner to save face, although I have a hard time believing he didn't know what was happening.

    Just lolz @ Luhnow, what a tard. Don't forget, he was the same dipshit who DIDNT CHANGE ANY OF HIS PASSWORDS after switching from the Cardinals to the Astros, just begging for someone to "hack" him.

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    Boston media thinks Red Sox MGR Alex Cora who was the bench coach for Astros is gonna be crucified worse than Hinsch.

    It is felt Cora developed the schemes and used them across two organizations.

    Belichick refused comment

    It associated news, Dodgers still have no ring.

     
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      gut: "on to cincinnati"

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    Cora's penalty will start at a year. Just read through the mlb report (spoiler: Cora is ALL OVER IT), and he's pretty much the point man on the whole deal, more so than Hinch for sure, and on multiple teams. At the very least, he won't get less than Hinch.

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    Could Yu Darvish file a civil suit for compensation here?

    This might have legit fucked him up for like 2 years.

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    And meanwhile, Pete Rose has a LIFETIME ban for gambling...

    Let that sink in...

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    So the L.A. Dodgers were the real champions in 2017.

    Houston Astros should be forced to surrender their trophy and all the world series rings since they cheated.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    And meanwhile, Pete Rose has a LIFETIME ban for gambling...

    Let that sink in...
    As well it should be. Players/managers betting on games is infinitely worse for the league than players cheating to win. You can argue the HoF did him dirty after he agreed to the punishment by making him ineligible for entry, but Rose took the deal, and didn't exactly cover himself in great behavior since then. He's still a gambler living in Vegas, no? Still dealing with old debts and tax evasion penalties, etc. No commish is ever going to reconsider that guy for an un-banning while that's still the case.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    So the L.A. Dodgers were the real champions in 2017.

    Houston Astros should be forced to surrender their trophy and all the world series rings since they cheated.

    100% right!!! The penalty for that level of cheating has to be so severe that MLB managers are most likely sufficiently deterred to avoid trying such shenanigans in the future.
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