Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
So climate change is only when it gets warmer?
No, but Jayjami was raising the point that warmer temperatures are some of the reason for the fires and the dying trees. I was explaining that it hasn't been warmer, so that couldn't be the case.

The problem is that the left screams "climate change" whenever a short-term pattern occurs in the weather.

Remember the devastating 2005 hurricane season, which included Katrina? We were told by climate scientists and the left that this would be the new normal, and that terrible hurricane seasons would become the rule rather than the exception.

Then we had two quiet hurricane seasons immediately following, then a worse-than-average in 2008, then several quiet seasons again. Then we stopped hearing the claim that climate change has caused hurricanes to get worse. Now suddenly after some bad hurricanes at the end of the 2010s, we're hearing it again. Sigh.

I'm not a climate change denier, but I'm also not a sky-is-falling climate change panicker. Weather has tons of variance, and to draw conclusions over short-term patterns is just LOL.
OK forget the consensus of climatologists world wide and we'll accept your perspective of a person born into the cheese burger
eating era of Southern California in the mid 1990's

One thing you cannot overlook in Australia or California is the population change and the effect that has on
water sources. That is also science or even just math. Either way there is a problem and you deal with it
one way or another.