Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

oh you'll never get republican votes since he's their messiah but the goal is to have a chance at independents who might prefer a sociopath over a socialist

so apparently like 18% of the US voted for trump, thats how many people stayed home during that election.

this is how i see it:

- a lot of people who voted for trump are going to stay home in nov 2019 election
- a lot of people who stayed home instead of voting for hillary in 2015 are going to be out in force in 2020 because this is literal madness and its embarrassing

those are the two factors im locked in on for trump to be a one termer.

but the X factor, that he is literally the jim jones of the republican party and everything to the right of it and has absolutely electrified his christian conservative base, is enough for me to say 'right, of course..' when once again he wins the electoral college regardless of losing the popular election.

i need to see a few more republicans peace out on their own circular waco before i think there is a light at the end of the tunnel frankly.
100% agree that you just need the people who stayed home (primarily, young people and minorities) to turn out and trump loses. i've been counting on that from day 1 when i thought literally anyone would beat him. i don't think trump expands his turnout from 2016. if anything, it shrinks.

my biggest concern is "medicare for all." healthcare is too tangible. everyone has it. fucking with it scares people.

i have always assumed that as we get to the general election, the medicare for all crowd (bernie and warren) will soften into a public option (i.e., you can keep private insurance if you like).

i think warren will do that as i'm not sure she's a true believer like bernie is. she was a republican and native american once.

i'm afraid bernie won't, and if he's the dem nominee, it may cost him the election.

my third fear is that biden continues to speak, rendering him unelectable. trump sounds more lucid than this guy. not more sane, but more lucid.