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    Druff, I recall you saying you thought you'd make a good online poker room manager.

    I say take your shot and go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeD View Post
    Druff, I recall you saying you thought you'd make a good online poker room manager.

    I say take your shot and go for it.
    Can't do it. Can't move to Vegas full time these days. Otherwise I would put out feelers and see if they were interested.

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    Seems in this day and age this job could be handled remotely with the occassional visit to Vegas when required (which you already do). Go for it

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    Maybe I am being naive, but Caesars sports betting operation used to be stale. The company cleaned house, brought in the old Cantor guys, and it is now a top book with some of the industry's best talent. It is a great success story in the industry.

    It's not too late for the same to happen here. I feel the first step is moving the operations to Nevada, or at least New Jersey. Keeping support in Antigua won't cut it, assuming it's still there, and I have no reason to believe otherwise.

    Like I said on Twitter, the company can take an approach where it owns its past and promises a better future in terms of communication and feedback and act on it. That would go a long way to fixing its image. Unhappy players will quickly forget the past if the future looks bright.
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    Seriously, in the State of NV there's only 2 or 3 legal online sites. They also have the strong brand name of the WSOP in their favor.

    So much potential to set a high standard for other states to look at and consider (like California), yet still so much utter failure

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeD View Post
    Seriously, in the State of NV there's only 2 or 3 legal online sites. They also have the strong brand name of the WSOP in their favor.

    So much potential to set a high standard for other states to look at and consider (like California), yet still so much utter failure
    There were three at one point. The other two went out of business and WSOP.com has a monopoly. I firmly believe the poor performance of these companies in Nevada has held back expansion in other states. Delaware, with its $25k/month or so in rake, doesn't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeD View Post
    Druff, I recall you saying you thought you'd make a good online poker room manager.

    I say take your shot and go for it.
    100%...+if you need dealers ..holler...lol.

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    WSOP.com will continue to be a failure no matter who is running it ... why would anyone play there when Bovada/Ignition are a 100x better option. Regulated online poker is a complete fucking joke and will continue to be this way for a long long time no matter who is in charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by sah_24 View Post
    WSOP.com will continue to be a failure no matter who is running it ... why would anyone play there when Bovada/Ignition are a 100x better option. Regulated online poker is a complete fucking joke and will continue to be this way for a long long time no matter who is in charge
    I half agree.

    Yes, it lacks the potential traffic in order to be really active. There aren't enough people in Nevada, NJ, and Delaware to fill up an online poker site. Simply not enough people want to play online poker anymore, so you need a massive population, it won't ever have a big player pool.

    However, WSOP.com and Rini did about the worst job possible with promotions to get players over there and incentivized to pay. Hence, it was a ghost town.

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    Well, I just noticed something on the Linkedin.

    His city is listed as "Mueang Nonthaburi, Nonthaburi, Thailand".

    Provided that's truthful, which it probably is, it's looking more to me like Bill was just sick of everything and wanted to move off to Thailand to retire.

    The rest of what I said is still what I believe. He wasn't right for the job, he couldn't handle the public scrutiny and being a public figure in poker, and he probably took it personally when people criticized the site and its management.

    So if he's really relocated to Thailand, it really appears that he quit. If he were fired, it would have taken him by surprise, and he wouldn't have been able to relocate so quickly.

    I wonder if we will see a successor announced soon, or if they're just going to sit in a holding pattern, and let El Dorado deal with it once the sale goes through. Mind you, I always wondered what Bill did for 40 hours every week. Once you get everything established, there's really not much to do as manager of WSOP.com, especially if you seem to leave everything stagnant and avoid interaction with players (which Bill did). So they can probably do without a manager for awhile, and not much will change.

    Looking at Bill's resume, he was a manager at a bunch of online poker companies, including Full Tilt and Party. But it looks like he may have been more of a software manager, hence his inability to actually manage WSOP.com from the top. I can tell you from my years in software that some software managers are awful at managing businesses and people. But they probably hired him because he had that resume, when in reality, they should have hired someone who actually managed online card rooms from the non-software standpoint. The software was already taken care of by 888.

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    what do you think his yearly salary was for his wsop position?

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    I've wondered that, too, but it was probably a lot more than you'd think. This was technically a management position.

    Caesars probably thought that his position was important at the time they hired him, as they had high hopes of becoming the next Pokerstars, except also being legal.

    So they probably hired him for a lot of $, and thought he was the right man for the job, given his decade or so holding management positions with Party, Full Tilt, and others.



    I don't blame Caesars for this. On the surface, it looked like a good hire. But they should've canned him within months when it was clear he was the absolute wrong man for the job. Dude went into his shell like a turtle whenever the slightest problem would come up.

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