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sonatine's post above is so intellectually dishonest, I won't even bother to start taking it apart.

It does bother me to see that guys like sonatine and JimmyG are defending Antifa, and basically portraying them as freedom fighters.

The "nobody has been killed by Antifa" argument is LOL. So them beating people and terrorizing them for their political beliefs is okay, as long as nobody dies? Is this the narrative the left has evolved to now?

It is very, very dangerous to support ideological-based violence supposedly under the banner of "fighting fascism" or "fighting racism". Either you support the right to free speech and free assembly, or you don't. You can't only support free speech when it's the "correct" speech, and then support people getting beaten, milkshaked, and harassed when you don't agree with what they're saying.

Antifa are a bunch of thugs who have decided that they're just going to physically hurt people on the right until they get their point across. If you don't feel we as a society have evolved way beyond that sort of behavior being acceptable, then you haven't learned a thing.

sorry, your rebuttal to 'intellectual dishonesty' is that nobody dying is a moral equivalent to people being extrajudicially executed?

your 'dig myself a deeper hole' style of internet debate may be great entertainment but its getting you no closer to that coveted negraneu bracket poll status.

This would be like if a right-wing spree killer ends up killing 20 people in a hate crime, someone says, "Yeah he killed 20 people, but did he kill 3000? You know who killed 3000 Americans in 2001? Muslim extremists."

It's an incredibly lame argument to claim that a group isn't bad because they didn't do something even worse done by other groups.

Again, it's very simple. Either you support freedom of speech and freedom to express political opinion without being attacked, or you believe that it's justified to physically attack people for holding what you deem to be the wrong views. If you believe the former, then you can't support Antifa.

I will say right now that I would never support any right wing group which seeks to suppress speech of the political left. Why can't people like you do the same, instead of defending these awful amoral extremists?