Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

I don't have any problem with lesbians. Threads like these are almost always about specific people I feel are behaving badly, rather than lesbians as a group. Lesbians in general don't bother me at all, and I feel they should live life like the rest of us and be left alone.


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The boys who attacked these women did so because one of the women talked back to them. This wasn't a gay bashing attack. They said repeated rude things because they were turned on from seeing the women kissing, one of the women spoke up and told them off, and they reacted violently.

These kids were awful and I want to see them prosecuted aggressively. No excuses for them, and 100% these women were victims.

However, this still wasn't a hate crime. They weren't attacked for being gay. They were attacked for talking back to perverts who wanted to see them kiss more.

Furthermore, I'm still not sure why nobody here wants to comment on the woman's nasty reaction to her sympathizers. That's the most interesting part of this story, and the only reason I created this thread in the first place. I saw this story a week ago before she wrote that editorial, and I didn't even find it interesting enough to post on PFA at that point.
First of all I did react to one of the victims reaction to the press. And from what I read she is not
the kind of person I would want to know


"They weren't attacked for being gay. They were attacked for talking back to perverts who wanted to see them kiss more."

You will not let go of your opinion that these boys were actually turned on from what they saw.
How do you know what they were thinking?
Does watching something you enjoy lead to public beatings?
The facts are that they were five against two. Not two bodybuilding types but
two females who would seem to provide a softer target
Yes, les, you were the only one to comment on that victim's nasty and ungracious editorial. I appreciate that you were willing to take on that topic, while the other lefties here are purposely avoiding it.

Regarding the rest of what you say, you're correct that I can't say for certain what was in the boys' heads. However, as an outsider who has read the (likely accurate) reports of what occurred, it seems easy to ascertain that the boys were turned on watching the lesbians, thought they would intimidate the women into doing more of it, got sass mouthed (rightfully so) in response, and then attacked.

I don't believe this was a veiled way to attack gays. These were idiot teenage boys. They aren't that complex. Usually what you see on the surface from them is what they really are.

This was an obnoxious, violent, and reprehensible crime, and the women did not deserve it one bit. But it wasn't an attack on gays or women as a whole.