Druff, sorry to hear this is happening to you. Glad to hear you have found relief to a degree but I have to ask...
Have you entertained the idea of "talking to someone", sometimes just the release can help with anxiety. Maybe set up a time to try it, not sure if insurance covers but the under lying issue is important to deal with.
Pretty sure the underlying issue was being unable to lie down and be able to breathe. 5 straight days of that screwed up my brain.Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
This anxiety is different than anxiety most people have. Mine is mostly not related to worrying about anything.
No one, “let’s” addiction happen.Yes I know it diminishes.
However, what effect it does give me might be enough, even if diminished.
Also, you argued earlier that it couldn't be helping me for 5 days, again citing "science" as your reason.
I also recall you once telling me that it was impossible that I was feeling next day tiredness as a result of taking it the first time, because it was only 0.25mg. At least I think it was you. But that's definitely a real thing.
I'm not even understanding what you're advocating here. That I should stop?
What do you think is going to happen? That after enough time I'll need 0.5mg to work instead of 0.25?
Because I'm not going to ever let this get to abusive or addictive levels.
It seems to me that, at worst, this method will stop being effective and I'll have to give up on it.
Benzodiazepines are the law of diminishing returns.
As I’ve stated many times, they are a Band-Aid they are not a cure. I suggest you treat this classification of drugs as such. Treating anxiety can be a slippery slope and I urge you to find a holistic and real treatment for your anxiety - from the inside out, not the outside in (which is the way that you’re treating it now.) Taking Xanax is the easy way out and it’s unsustainable. Every person on this forum who has discussed their experience with Xanax has warned you of this and offered alternatives.
Do your thing. You be you. Just understand no Dr. in his right mind & that cares about his license is going to prescribe this long-term plan. Regardless of what the Internet and your minimal experience tell him.
Pretty sure the underlying issue was being unable to lie down and be able to breathe. 5 straight days of that screwed up my brain.
This anxiety is different than anxiety most people have. Mine is mostly not related to worrying about anything.
I wish my anxiety was special enough to get its own diagnosis (a cut above the rest.) I feel so basic with intense, excessive, and persistent worry and fear about everyday situations.
I like username's last post and I think anyone who has been through this can relate. I did my internet research, I trolled the forums but ultimately found out through experience. Paid the price but ultimately I now know Can't blame Druff for attempts to control everything but it's not so easy
the post before the last actually
used ultimately twice
"The founding fathers did not like the idea of the tyranny of the majority ruling the country"
Dan Druff
“I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Albert Einstein
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today if a gift
and that is why it's called the present"
Eleanor Roosevelt
I understand we can have experiences which can cause anxiety but no harm in talking with someone to discover as to why they do not go away. If your anxiety is strictly related to your medical issue and once that is gone you are good to go, great. If the anxiety persists... no shame in talking, being physically and mentally healthy is important and you are fortunate enough to have a child to be there for as long as possible.Pretty sure the underlying issue was being unable to lie down and be able to breathe. 5 straight days of that screwed up my brain.
This anxiety is different than anxiety most people have. Mine is mostly not related to worrying about anything.
Why the bitterness in these responses?
I wish my anxiety was special enough to get its own diagnosis (a cut above the rest.) I feel so basic with intense, excessive, and persistent worry and fear about everyday situations.
Should I pretend that my anxiety is endless worrying? Mine sprung as a reaction to not being able to breathe when lying down. It presents as a generalized tension and other symptoms which aren't related to a worry or concern about anything in particular.
You will not find a case anywhere of someone addicted to benzodiazepines who took low dose once per week and stuck to it.
Any addiction I could face wouldn't happen overnight. If the once per week thing fails, I won't up it to twice or three times per week. I'll just stop and see what else can be done.
My natural fear of addiction would keep me from getting into hot water with this.
Maybe it will cease to be effective and I'll have to scrap this plan. But addiction isn't what I'm worried about.
As I said, I'm hoping this is just a step toward getting back to normalcy. This isn't a lifelong problem. I have hope that training my brain away from anxiety will eventually return me to what I was before, or at least to where the usage of the xanax would just be occasional.
please understand .25mg per week is tantamount to placebo or nothing at all. you say addiction isn't what you're worried about then go ahead and test the watersWhy the bitterness in these responses?
Should I pretend that my anxiety is endless worrying? Mine sprung as a reaction to not being able to breathe when lying down. It presents as a generalized tension and other symptoms which aren't related to a worry or concern about anything in particular.
You will not find a case anywhere of someone addicted to benzodiazepines who took low dose once per week and stuck to it.
Any addiction I could face wouldn't happen overnight. If the once per week thing fails, I won't up it to twice or three times per week. I'll just stop and see what else can be done.
My natural fear of addiction would keep me from getting into hot water with this.
Maybe it will cease to be effective and I'll have to scrap this plan. But addiction isn't what I'm worried about.
As I said, I'm hoping this is just a step toward getting back to normalcy. This isn't a lifelong problem. I have hope that training my brain away from anxiety will eventually return me to what I was before, or at least to where the usage of the xanax would just be occasional.
"The founding fathers did not like the idea of the tyranny of the majority ruling the country"
Dan Druff
“I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Albert Einstein
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today if a gift
and that is why it's called the present"
Eleanor Roosevelt
so druff has enough willpower and self control to not get addicted to benzos, but not enough to avoid stretching his stomach on hot dog on a stick as a 2nd dinner?
He may not realize this (I think he may, but i dunno), but you aren't dealing with the shit he is so it surprises me that you don't notice what is happening here. Of course it is a placebo solution, but for a man who has had control issues his whole life, this is a way to take back control and is something he needs to get better. It's obvious his anxiety is a result of this illness he couldn't google a cure for over night, coupled with lack of sleep for an extended period of time due to extreme discomfort and for someone who needs to feel in control it broke him a bit, but if something like this helps him put the pieces together why shit on it?please understand .25mg per week is tantamount to placebo or nothing at all. you say addiction isn't what you're worried about then go ahead and test the waters
Also, LOL at anyone thinking .25mg will lead to addiction or him wanting to take more. After 1-2 days max the affects of this are almost nonexistent. I doubt he ever increases from here. Assuming his condition doesn't worsen, eventually he's going to think that he has tricked his mind and doesn't need to take it anymore, in reality it will have been the point where he has finally taken back control.
Get well buddy, I'm pulling for you. Fuck these guys, do what makes you feel better.
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Taking Xanax twice a week is perfectly fine. Chance for physical dependency is still 0.0. The way physical dependency works with Benzos is that if you soak your brain with it everyday for weeks at some point your brain assumes that an external source is now taking care of everything related to anxiety/stress and it will dismantle any internal mechanisms that would normally be in charge. The end result is that, if at that point you don't have enough Benzos in your system, even small amounts of anxiety will feel like overbearing.
The good news is that none of that is irreversible. Another bit of good news is that your brain works in a very binary way. It builds around constants. If you take something every 5 days, it will be pleasantly surprised every time. It doesn't understand schedules and it doesn't plan ahead. Psychological dependency is a bit more nuanced and aware. It sorta understands things like every weekend, but you can negotiate and trick that side of dependency.
The way your brain gently reminds you to get something it wants is by making you feel like shit and anxiety is one of it's tools. With other addictions you still have internal mechanisms that slow you down and reassure you, that this isn't the end of the world. With Benzo addiction these mechanisms have been replaced with the assumption that you have Benzos in your bloodstream at all waking hours.
0.25 a week can have the effect you think it has. But it's together with other positive changes. You sleep better, you eat better, you move more, you're doing things you enjoy again and you've gained back a sense of stronger control. All these are things that therapeutic Benzo use enables to other individuals with anxiety issues. For long term these are the important things and they have a snowball effect. So just a small shove with the help of drugs to the right direction lets your body fix itself. Druff mostly did it without drugs. The effect is obviously the same.
What that 0.25 does to Druff is giving his brain an afternoon off. The resources that would have been otherwise used to handle anxiety are just banked. It's just a little bit extra to handle the workload in the coming days. You could say it's enough for 5ish days when it finally spills over again. There's about 20 other things that contribute to this besides a small dose of Xanax, so it's equally right and wrong to say any one of them gives him those 5 days.
I was waiting for gimmick to chime in. Ive never known anyone to take them for anxiety in that manner. My father’s wife takes that exact dose for sleeping issues. Like once a week, for over a decade, without need for increase,or loss of efficacy, or addiction. She’ll have a 30 day prescription with pills left after six months. I assumed the sedative effect was the same for both issues.
The same effect for anxiety is usually achieved with SSRIs/SNRIs if sleeping isn't an issue. The resource you're saving when you take Xanax is serotonin. So with Druff it's not important what's happening when he takes Xanax, it's what isn't happening. Most of Xanax is gone in a few hours, but the serotonin you didn't use lasts. Sometimes relatively small things are enough to swing the balance.
I want that special anxiety diagnosis as well. Panic attacks or anxiety do not have to be caused by something currently going on in your life . They can be brought on by things that are in deeply buried and that you don't think about in the moment.
It could be something as small for Druff as missing a bet fifteen years ago in an online cash game . That's how ridiculous it could be. That's not a joke but a silly example. The brain has things locked away and can react and cause stress and anxiety without it being a thought.
I understand that's some deep stuff for some of you tards and wet brains to comprehend but it's true. As far as the xanex I agree that using it twice a week will do nothing .
Hope your feeling better Druff. Any prediction on next radioshow?
Tested positive for H.Pylori bacterial infection in stomach.
About to start (difficult) treatment of high powered antibiotics and Prilosec (which I didn't tolerate very well in August) to get rid of it.
What is H.Pylori? Read this: https://www.allinthelighting.com/h-p...f-you-have-it/
Cliffs: Many people have it (perhaps more than half the US population), and it can sit in you for decades with no symptoms. However, it is advised to treat it if it appears you might be having symptoms associated with it. In my case, the LPR and mild abdominal pain, both of which started within a close time frame, are both associated with H.pylori.
Treating it is controversial, though. You also might be removing some beneficial aspects of H.pylori, and the high powered antibiotics are also known to cause their own set of problems in some people. There is also some believe that H.pylori helps PREVENT esophageal cancer. On the plus side, this could potentially solve some of my issues, and even if it doesn't, I'm definitely lowering my chance of future stomach cancer and stomach ulcers by getting rid of it.
Anyway, the treatment lasts two weeks. Gotta take TWO high dose antibiotics AND Prilosec, TWICE a day.
Probably gonna feel awful, appetite will probably be suppressed (Prilosec did that to me last time), and hopefully nothing else will happen.
Long two weeks coming up. Will probably start tomorrow or Wednesday.
Possible I may have to do this all over again if H.pylori is resistant to it. If I caught it fairly recently, it will be easier to get rid of. I will retest for it in 6 weeks.
I suspected H.pylori as a possible cause because of both the abdominal pain I've experienced AND the fact that my LPR showed up very abruptly, as opposed to gradually came on, and for none of the usual abrupt causes (surgery, illness, etc). So I suspected perhaps it was an infection of some kind that made this happen.
Wish you nothing less than the best of outcomes. Stay strong.
Meh, had H Pylori a couple years ago, found it while having a scope to find out cause for abdominal pain. Doc said probably wasnt the cause of the pain, treated it anyways and after all the tests couldnt find anything wrong. Only thing going on at the time was stress from a terrible job. Told doc ok, so Im gonna quit it which I did. Oh, pain went away. So, since you dont work, what is the source of your stress(besides this joint of course) and quit it for your health.
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godspeed, sweet prince.
My LPR isn't from stress. That's about 100% certain.
It appeared suddenly in mid-August. There were no particular stressors at that point. While LPR seems to be more prevalent in those with stress, it does not seem that stress is the main cause of it. Typically people develop LPR from either an existing reflux problem, a bad reaction to antibiotics, some after-effect from a viral illness, or complications after surgery. Mine was a little bit unusual in that there was no discernible cause. It just appeared. There are other cases like mine, but most with LPR can point to a clear health-related event which preceded it, while I can't.
You are correct that H.pylori often isn't the cause of current health problems. It is possible, in fact probable, that I will treat it and my LPR will not improve.
However, the doctor described it as "plausible" that H.pylori could be behind these symptoms, as it does have an association with reflux, and my LPR appeared very suddenly. I also now have mild heartburn since mid-October, for the first time in my life. Something caused all of this to ramp up all of a sudden, and that's why I thought of H.pylori.
Since treating it may also have other benefits (the mild abdominal pain relief, the cancer prevention), it also might be beneficial to do anyway.
Anyway, I really pray that it is a result of the H.pylori.
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