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    And that conjecture was thoroughly investigated by the Boston Globe and found to be not supported by the evidence.

    Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html



    Bottom line: She never used her Native American heritage to further her career.
    You keep repeating the same thing over and over, ignoring the point we are raising.

    We are past the point of claiming that she got hired by claiming she was Native American. I'm willing to concede that likely didn't happen.

    So stop repeating that same response over and over.

    My problem is that AFTER she was tenured at Harvard, she officially changed her ethnicity there. This had to be for "minority cred" or some sort of perceived gain. Presumably she felt that being a minority professor at Harvard would give her more credibility.

    That was dishonest and exploitative, no matter which way you try to slice it.
    Cred with whom??? She was already tenured at Harvard before changing her ethnicity. And we’re talking *Harvard* Law School, a top tier school. And by that point, and given her specialty (bankruptcy law), her colleagues within the discipline both at Harvard and elsewhere wouldn’t have cared what her reported ethnicity was. This wasn’t like the case of that white woman who faked being Black in order to enhance her cred within the Black community *and* in her racially-focused career.

    If Warren had specialized in law directly related to Native American issues, and used her NA heritage as a flag to wave to enhance her cred on the matter, then her designated heritage would matter to *her* career. But she didn’t. So her NA designation had no meaningful impact on either her career or her “cred”.

    But, and I say this again having worked in academia, the *administration* almost surely used her NA designation in boosting its faculty’s diversity-related reporting. Because college administrators are slippery that way. To them, it probably looked like a lost opportunity to not try to benefit, diversity metric-wise, from free-riding on an existing faculty member’s ethnic ID change when noone there had made any special effort to make the faculty more ethnically diverse. Because college admins care about such things given the politics of faculty diversity within the American university system.

    But if you have some idea of whom Warren was trying to improve her “cred” with other than who I discuss her that would enhance her academic career, please be specific.
    edit: I see I basically just said what mumbles said - gonna leave it anyway.

    I imagine she did it to benefit her department or possibly the University as a whole, which, I guess you could argue it may have benefited her personally. (maybe she was owed a favor or something?) Can't really argue it gave her any more job security or made her more valuable to Harvard since she was already tenured.

    Perhaps Harvard was getting heat for not having a diverse enough faculty, or maybe there was some sort of incentive (qualify for more grants or maybe just get better ranking in national top 100 lists) to higher more diverse professors. Warren thought "oh hey, I'm part NA, let me help!"

     
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      MumblesBadly: Highly possible, but also admin found out and informally ask her to make that change.
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